A tale of speeding. Told by an idiot. Signifying nothing.

[TooMany2cvs]

Fleegle said:

a statement that while it didn't lie, the tone in which is was written had me down as someone who couldn't care.

I'd love to know how you write words down accurately, but in the wrong tone...

[Prof Prolapse]

TooMany2cvs said:

I'd love to know how you write words down accurately, but in the wrong tone...

Like this?

"Mr Fleegle was caught doing XXmph. It made me a very sad police man. If you pay us £60 in 28 days however he can however carry on as normal but with more expensive insurance. "

[Fleegle]

Pothole said:

Fleegle said:

bogie said:

I think if you pass the attitude test and were not going too crazy, especially not exceeding limits in non NSL areas, they can use their discretion. Which to me, is how Policing should be.

If only. In return for me being polite and courteous the fat that nicked me decided to submit a statement that while it didn't lie, the tone in which is was written had me down as someone who couldn't care.

I'm pleased that the magistrate was a not as much a as the fat copper

So you were speeding, then?

Yes, something that I didn't deny. I didn't lie about any of the facts nor did I answer any of the questions asked at the roadside in anything other than a courteous manner. In return I expected his report to relay the manner in which I behaved, not using a poetic licence that made me sound like I was the next Yorkshire Ripper (a slight exaggeration)

My trust in the copper was betrayed....another nail in the forces reputation as far as I was concerned. I expected to be dealt with appropriately yet his simple statement could have changed all that

[Disastrous]

R8Steve said:

It's kind of difficult to be display a good attitute to speed/the law after doing more than twice the speed limit i'd imagine

To be fair 'the attitude test' has worked well for me in the past so i really shouldn't complain but the idea of it still grinds on me for some reason.

I agree. I'd almost rather nobody got away with it than this concept of 'the attitude test'. It especially grates when people here mention it in a smug way with a wink smiley as if they're the only people who know how the game is played.

I've been let off and not let off in the past but would still somehow prefer less discretion and a more 'one rule for everyone' type of situation.

[Fleegle]

TooMany2cvs said:

Fleegle said:

a statement that while it didn't lie, the tone in which is was written had me down as someone who couldn't care.

I'd love to know how you write words down accurately, but in the wrong tone...

Not a single word he wrote was a lie therefore accurate, it's the facts/words that he excluded that changed the tone

[Renn Sport]

R8Steve said:

Renn Sport said:

If your doing an indicated 130 and you see blue lights. Run.

Just wind it up 160+ and get the fk out of there and hide. I for one am not going to prison for speeding. I don't know who stole my bike and was riding that fast but it sure as hell wasn't me. I am not that crazy.

You probably wouldn't go to prison for an indicated 130...you'd definitely go to prison for winding it up to 160+ and failing to stop though.

Is that seriously what you would do?

Not sure if its a question what I would do or have done. I don't think this is a surprise.

I am not sure if there are many sport bike 1000cc riders who would stop if they were 130 and above. As for doing 160+ I think many sport bike riders have easily done these speeds if not more indicated on the speedo and if they see blue lights they don't stop. They wind it on and go.

Maybe I have moved in the wrong circles. Perhaps I saying something others wont admit to on a forum?

Perhaps its why I'll never have another Sport Bike on the road and even the Z1000SX I have needs to go.

[Fastdruid]

Fleegle said:

Pothole said:

Fleegle said:

bogie said:

I think if you pass the attitude test and were not going too crazy, especially not exceeding limits in non NSL areas, they can use their discretion. Which to me, is how Policing should be.

If only. In return for me being polite and courteous the fat that nicked me decided to submit a statement that while it didn't lie, the tone in which is was written had me down as someone who couldn't care.

I'm pleased that the magistrate was a not as much a as the fat copper

So you were speeding, then?

Yes, something that I didn't deny. I didn't lie about any of the facts nor did I answer any of the questions asked at the roadside in anything other than a courteous manner. In return I expected his report to relay the manner in which I behaved, not using a poetic licence that made me sound like I was the next Yorkshire Ripper (a slight exaggeration)

My trust in the copper was betrayed....another nail in the forces reputation as far as I was concerned. I expected to be dealt with appropriately yet his simple statement could have changed all that

I went to court and pleaded not guilty because of similar. Bit too much power exiting a roundabout saw the front lift somewhat... which in the statement turned into everything exaggerated, speeding in heavy traffic while raining on greasy roads and the wrong speed limit.

If Mr TrafPol had been more honest I'd have pleaded guilty (actually if he'd been honest it would have most likely been a course rather than court anyway) but in the end I got off scot free (helped by trafpol lying in court) as the Magistrates decided that the front lifting momentarily wasn't DWDCA.

[Prof Prolapse]

I only know one person who outran a police car. He only just managed it and is fking fast. He had very little time to take his bike apart in the garage (and was burned quite badly in the process!) even then the copper was quite clear he knew it was him.

As for outrunning two police bikes on a road they know inside out, with no urban areas to force them back, and with few turns to lose them, you're dreaming. Say what you want about police bikers but they really aren't slow, even on FJR1300s.

[Renn Sport]

Prof Prolapse said:

I only know one person who outran a police car. He only just managed it and is fking fast. He had very little time to take his bike apart in the garage (and was burned quite badly in the process!) even then the copper was quite clear he knew it was him.

As for outrunning two police bikes on a road they know inside out, with no urban areas to force them back, and with few turns to lose them, you're dreaming. Say what you want about police bikers but they really aren't slow, even on FJR1300s.

I wasn't suggesting this with police bikes but in the city it happens.

I don't think if I saw a police bike I would run because I don't think it would doable.

Police car? Well its been done and we all make our personal decisions on what we assume to be the risk/reward.

Bottom line is keep it under 100 (really hard) don't get caught.

[R8Steve]

Renn Sport said:

I wasn't suggesting this with police bikes but in the city it happens.

130mph and outrunning police at 160mph+

What city is this just so i can stay clear in future?

[Baldy881]

Trying to outrun to Police vehicles that have already latched on I don't suspect would end well most of the time. On the other hand, if they're sat in a layby or road side that's another matter (although negated if they are holding speed catching equipment as if they are they probably have your reg and you're more than likely goosed already).

Quite a few years back we were on the way back from a weekend in Scotland and on the last leg of the M1, I was on a dinky NC30 but the other two were on bigger bikes and we ended up racing a Porsche, I was laid on the tank flat out (130 max) but the other two bikes and car must have been going 150+ and we all shot by a Police car that was parked up on the Motorway verge. Instant panic but not one of us slowed, I looked in the mirror expecting all hell to break loose behind us but to my surprise the Police car didn't move. Laughed about it afterwards as I can just imagine the thought process of the copper seeing 4 vehicle absolutely whistle past, he was probably about to tuck into a butty and coffee and just thought fk it

[Fleegle]

R8Steve said:

Renn Sport said:

I wasn't suggesting this with police bikes but in the city it happens.

130mph and outrunning police at 160mph+

What city is this just so i can stay clear in future?

Those speeds wouldn't be needed during rush hour in London

[Fastdruid]

Fleegle said:

R8Steve said:

Renn Sport said:

I wasn't suggesting this with police bikes but in the city it happens.

130mph and outrunning police at 160mph+

What city is this just so i can stay clear in future?

Those speeds wouldn't be needed during rush hour in London

About 13-16mph+ should do it at rush hour in London

[creampuff]

Baldy881 said:

Quite a few years back we were on the way back from a weekend in Scotland and on the last leg of the M1, I was on a dinky NC30 but the other two were on bigger bikes and we ended up racing a Porsche, I was laid on the tank flat out (130 max) but the other two bikes and car must have been going 150+ and we all shot by a Police car that was parked up on the Motorway verge. Instant panic but not one of us slowed, I looked in the mirror expecting all hell to break loose behind us but to my surprise the Police car didn't move. Laughed about it afterwards as I can just imagine the thought process of the copper seeing 4 vehicle absolutely whistle past, he was probably about to tuck into a butty and coffee and just thought fk it

Might have been a Highways Agency car. Hard to tell the HATO black and yellow Battenberg pattern from the police blue and yellow Battenberg apart when you are going 130-150+mph

[Ilovejapcrap]

[quote=PTF

And then it comes. "You just couldn't help yourself could you?"

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I'd find that patronising by some bloke just because he's a copper TBH.

[cmaguire]

Prof Prolapse said:

I only know one person who outran a police car. He only just managed it and is fking fast. He had very little time to take his bike apart in the garage (and was burned quite badly in the process!) even then the copper was quite clear he knew it was him.

As for outrunning two police bikes on a road they know inside out, with no urban areas to force them back, and with few turns to lose them, you're dreaming. Say what you want about police bikers but they really aren't slow, even on FJR1300s.

Life's responsibilities would stop most intelligent riders from trying but you're over egging the difficulty of out-running Police Bike riders. They aren't that handy and there's no way they are keeping up with a good rider on a modern sports bike particularly if that rider is prepared to take some risks. They will call it off if things go beyond what is deemed 'safe'. These days it'll be the cameras and the helicopter that do for you if you make that decision to go for it and have the talent (or luck) to put in a good performance.

[Baldy881]

creampuff said:

Might have been a Highways Agency car. Hard to tell the HATO black and yellow Battenberg pattern from the police blue and yellow Battenberg apart when you are going 130-150+mph

I don't think Highways cars were doing the rounds in 2001? Certainly not as prolific as in recent years.

[Dr Jekyll]

cmaguire said:

Life's responsibilities would stop most intelligent riders from trying but you're over egging the difficulty of out-running Police Bike riders. They aren't that handy and there's no way they are keeping up with a good rider on a modern sports bike particularly if that rider is prepared to take some risks. They will call it off if things go beyond what is deemed 'safe'. These days it'll be the cameras and the helicopter that do for you if you make that decision to go for it and have the talent (or luck) to put in a good performance.

It's keeping up with bad riders that's the problem.

[Gunk]

Baldy881 said:

creampuff said:

Might have been a Highways Agency car. Hard to tell the HATO black and yellow Battenberg pattern from the police blue and yellow Battenberg apart when you are going 130-150+mph

I don't think Highways cars were doing the rounds in 2001? Certainly not as prolific as in recent years.

You're right they've only been around for about 10 years

[TooMany2cvs]

Baldy881 said:

I don't think Highways cars were doing the rounds in 2001? Certainly not as prolific as in recent years.

Yup, they started in 2004, and covered the country by 2006.