RJ Almost got bikejacked
Discussion
eybic said:
I wonder if all the bikes in these videos are with their legal owners???
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
I am an ancient Luddite & therefore no Facebook!! Is there another way of seeing the videos?https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
I don't think so as they seem to be uploaded to FB.
They're only short videos.
Basically in the first one there is a group of 3 or 4 'peds seemingly "getting away" from some sirens and flashing lights and in the second one there's a guy doing a burnout at some lights on a sports bike (Sorry, I don't know bikes)
They're only short videos.
Basically in the first one there is a group of 3 or 4 'peds seemingly "getting away" from some sirens and flashing lights and in the second one there's a guy doing a burnout at some lights on a sports bike (Sorry, I don't know bikes)
eybic said:
I don't think so as they seem to be uploaded to FB.
They're only short videos.
Basically in the first one there is a group of 3 or 4 'peds seemingly "getting away" from some sirens and flashing lights and in the second one there's a guy doing a burnout at some lights on a sports bike (Sorry, I don't know bikes)
Honda Fireblade RRT. They're only short videos.
Basically in the first one there is a group of 3 or 4 'peds seemingly "getting away" from some sirens and flashing lights and in the second one there's a guy doing a burnout at some lights on a sports bike (Sorry, I don't know bikes)
I note that someone has done a rather impressive rolling burnout of the eastbound side of the limehouse link..,.
eybic said:
I wonder if all the bikes in these videos are with their legal owners???
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
Be nice if someone stuck a chiv in both eyes. https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58/videos/vb....
.I wrote to my MP, to the Met police and to the Mayor about the increase in bike crime. A 600% increase, criminals operating with impunity, no motorcycle policy by TFL, refusing to chase the perpetrators, weak or non existent sentencing...
I'd urge you all to do the same, the more noise we make, the more of an issue it is.
In their defence, all replied. And while they're undoubtedly behind the drag curve, they do realise there's are problem and do seem to be 'trying' to catch up.
Here is a snippet of my reply from the Mayor. Largely positive, although the scummers will still only get a slap on the wrist, I'm sure. Anchor points is a good start.
Perhaps the most interesting is the last paragraph - it appears there are plans afoot to offer free trackers. Let's hope they're discrete and good quality, something like Bike Trac.
"I am so sorry to hear that you are feeling vulnerable, unsafe and unprotected regarding this matter. I can assure you that the Mayor and the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) are fully committed to motorcycle theft in the capital, and the Mayor does not think it is acceptable in any way for anyone to be threatened or for their personal items stolen, under any circumstance.
I have been notified by my MPS colleagues that local borough policing teams are conducting proactive operations to target these known thefts, and are working with the local authority to drive crime prevention work around secure anchor points for motorcycles and increase CCTV operations. This increase in CCTV use (which is invested heavily by local authorities) is used in partnership with the MPS to combat a variety of crime. This helps in particular with moped enabled crime and thefts of mopeds as offenders can be tracked across the borough when physical pursuit would not be allowed. A super recogniser from the police is posted into the CCTV office in each borough to assist in targeting offenders.
I have been advised that the MPS have recently obtained trackers in relation to this problem, which are currently in testing phase. These have been distributed amongst borough police teams, and will be offered free of charge in the future to owners of motorcycles to allow police to track the bikes once this phased is finished."
I'd urge you all to do the same, the more noise we make, the more of an issue it is.
In their defence, all replied. And while they're undoubtedly behind the drag curve, they do realise there's are problem and do seem to be 'trying' to catch up.
Here is a snippet of my reply from the Mayor. Largely positive, although the scummers will still only get a slap on the wrist, I'm sure. Anchor points is a good start.
Perhaps the most interesting is the last paragraph - it appears there are plans afoot to offer free trackers. Let's hope they're discrete and good quality, something like Bike Trac.
"I am so sorry to hear that you are feeling vulnerable, unsafe and unprotected regarding this matter. I can assure you that the Mayor and the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) are fully committed to motorcycle theft in the capital, and the Mayor does not think it is acceptable in any way for anyone to be threatened or for their personal items stolen, under any circumstance.
I have been notified by my MPS colleagues that local borough policing teams are conducting proactive operations to target these known thefts, and are working with the local authority to drive crime prevention work around secure anchor points for motorcycles and increase CCTV operations. This increase in CCTV use (which is invested heavily by local authorities) is used in partnership with the MPS to combat a variety of crime. This helps in particular with moped enabled crime and thefts of mopeds as offenders can be tracked across the borough when physical pursuit would not be allowed. A super recogniser from the police is posted into the CCTV office in each borough to assist in targeting offenders.
I have been advised that the MPS have recently obtained trackers in relation to this problem, which are currently in testing phase. These have been distributed amongst borough police teams, and will be offered free of charge in the future to owners of motorcycles to allow police to track the bikes once this phased is finished."
That, and the fact that offering free trackers isn't solving the bigger problem.
It looks like there are only a small number of people who are committing these crimes, and who will doubtless simply move onto something equally repugnant if bikes get harder to nick. What happened to the old-fashioned idea that such people get caught and punished and don't commit the crime again?
It looks like there are only a small number of people who are committing these crimes, and who will doubtless simply move onto something equally repugnant if bikes get harder to nick. What happened to the old-fashioned idea that such people get caught and punished and don't commit the crime again?
I was forwarded the Neighbourhood Watch News today. This piece was in it:
"When helping families cross the road last Friday in Ewell, my family and I had the misfortune to be targeted by people on motorcycles. They discharged a dry powder fire extinguisher at my daughter and my wife was nearly hit by a bike on the wrong side of the road. We reported the incident to the police and there was a similar incident the following evening when someone got off their bike and let off a similar extinguisher in a burger restaurant. Apparently, there have been further incidents about which I have no detail.
I am not sure of the extent of the problem. Surrey police are investigating a number of linked incidents of a similar nature in Epsom & Ewell, but I wonder if there have been reports of anything similar occurring in Sutton."
Not just bike theft that seems to be an issue.
"When helping families cross the road last Friday in Ewell, my family and I had the misfortune to be targeted by people on motorcycles. They discharged a dry powder fire extinguisher at my daughter and my wife was nearly hit by a bike on the wrong side of the road. We reported the incident to the police and there was a similar incident the following evening when someone got off their bike and let off a similar extinguisher in a burger restaurant. Apparently, there have been further incidents about which I have no detail.
I am not sure of the extent of the problem. Surrey police are investigating a number of linked incidents of a similar nature in Epsom & Ewell, but I wonder if there have been reports of anything similar occurring in Sutton."
Not just bike theft that seems to be an issue.
Volant said:
Although, having just posted that and thought about it for 30 seconds, I'm not letting the police put a tracker on my bike and be able to keep an eye on any 'spirited' riding....
Trackers are only actively watched after theft has occurred.Police do not "watch" tracked vehicles for speeding.
Iva Barchetta said:
Volant said:
Although, having just posted that and thought about it for 30 seconds, I'm not letting the police put a tracker on my bike and be able to keep an eye on any 'spirited' riding....
Trackers are only actively watched after theft has occurred.Police do not "watch" tracked vehicles for speeding.
But if it was police issue, who knows? I'm sure you'd have to sign something to get one, would be worth a very good read of the Ts&Cs.
Volant said:
Iva Barchetta said:
Volant said:
Although, having just posted that and thought about it for 30 seconds, I'm not letting the police put a tracker on my bike and be able to keep an eye on any 'spirited' riding....
Trackers are only actively watched after theft has occurred.Police do not "watch" tracked vehicles for speeding.
But if it was police issue, who knows? I'm sure you'd have to sign something to get one, would be worth a very good read of the Ts&Cs.
Besides that letting members of the public provide their pride and joy as bait bikes
seems a little half arsed. If bait bikes are the new policy they should do it properly with police or seized bikes. The successes are likely to be short lived once criminals figure out where the trackers are or use jammers. The bait car operations in the US use several chase cars and they remotely disable the vehicle, remote tracking and cctv won't be any better with bikes than it is at stopping all the cars that are stolen to order.
Refusal to chase and minimal punishment make it quite clear they're not interested.
CoolHands said:
I wonder if Nathan Bick is the main one that we've seen in these videos? I see he has been arrested on wed due to series of moped thefts. Looking at his facebook he is a bikelyfe tt and loads of pics on different scooters
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/wanted-man-wh...
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58
8 weeks young offenders stay, and £115 fine. For taking a motorcycle without consent, driving without a driving licence, driving dangerously and theft of a number plate. Presumably be released in half that.t and loads of pics on different scootershttp://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/wanted-man-wh...
https://www.facebook.com/nathan.bick.58
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/1497...
CoolHands said:
8 weeks young offenders stay, and £115 fine. For taking a motorcycle without consent, driving without a driving licence, driving dangerously and theft of a number plate. Presumably be released in half that.
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/1497...
A pathetic sentence and fine, suspect will make zero difference once he's out again. The banned from holding a license he didn't already have makes this even more comical.http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/local/1497...
Sadly there is only thing that will sort someone like this out.
Nothing sad about dealing with them. Ok it was a long time ago but me and my Dad dealt with someone who'd nicked my bike and we then caught him on it , Dad drove straight into him knocking him off then he was dealt with.
sjtscott said:
A pathetic sentence and fine, suspect will make zero difference once he's out again. The banned from holding a license he didn't already have makes this even more comical.
Sadly there is only thing that will sort someone like this out.
Sadly there is only thing that will sort someone like this out.
As you would expect, they continue to drive around robbing people of mobile phones. Easy pickings I suppose.
Don't know why the quality is so poor when you get parking tickets at NASA quality as soon as you stop on a red line etc (as I know to my cost)
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/alarming-foot...
Don't know why the quality is so poor when you get parking tickets at NASA quality as soon as you stop on a red line etc (as I know to my cost)
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/alarming-foot...
Ed. said:
Volant said:
Iva Barchetta said:
Volant said:
Although, having just posted that and thought about it for 30 seconds, I'm not letting the police put a tracker on my bike and be able to keep an eye on any 'spirited' riding....
Trackers are only actively watched after theft has occurred.Police do not "watch" tracked vehicles for speeding.
But if it was police issue, who knows? I'm sure you'd have to sign something to get one, would be worth a very good read of the Ts&Cs.
Besides that letting members of the public provide their pride and joy as bait bikes
seems a little half arsed. If bait bikes are the new policy they should do it properly with police or seized bikes. The successes are likely to be short lived once criminals figure out where the trackers are or use jammers. The bait car operations in the US use several chase cars and they remotely disable the vehicle, remote tracking and cctv won't be any better with bikes than it is at stopping all the cars that are stolen to order.
Refusal to chase and minimal punishment make it quite clear they're not interested.
CoolHands said:
As you would expect, they continue to drive around robbing people of mobile phones. Easy pickings I suppose.
Don't know why the quality is so poor when you get parking tickets at NASA quality as soon as you stop on a red line etc (as I know to my cost)
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/alarming-foot...
Read that on the train home yesterday, pleased at least one paper is giving it the attention it deserves.Don't know why the quality is so poor when you get parking tickets at NASA quality as soon as you stop on a red line etc (as I know to my cost)
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/alarming-foot...
Oddly enough there's been a bmw s1000r parked up on the street with no locks bar the disc near to me in London in zome 5 for a couple of years now thats still there so that gives some hope that you can still have a nice bike in outer London.
One of my colleagues commutes in on an MZ and saves his Ducati for weekends so maybe that's thr solution for central London.
untakenname said:
Read that on the train home yesterday, pleased at least one paper is giving it the attention it deserves.
Oddly enough there's been a bmw s1000r parked up on the street with no locks bar the disc near to me in London in zome 5 for a couple of years now thats still there so that gives some hope that you can still have a nice bike in outer London.
One of my colleagues commutes in on an MZ and saves his Ducati for weekends so maybe that's thr solution for central London.
I see a new Fireblade in a local bike bay to me and always wonder how long will that last.Oddly enough there's been a bmw s1000r parked up on the street with no locks bar the disc near to me in London in zome 5 for a couple of years now thats still there so that gives some hope that you can still have a nice bike in outer London.
One of my colleagues commutes in on an MZ and saves his Ducati for weekends so maybe that's thr solution for central London.
It seems to me unless you have secure parking or deeper pockets your best bet to keep your bike is getting something that doesn't appeal.
Bandit, SV, old 90's superbike like a SRAD, 636 or Yamaha 750(retro cool to me). Royal Enfield (I am intrigued by the continental GT)?
Anyway its a crap way to live thinking you can't have anything nice as some git may jack you or rob the bike when your not sitting on it.
Still have my 11 plate Kawasaki SX, which is isn't super desirable but I still worry. Its good that it weighs an absolute bloody ton.
Edited by Renn Sport on Friday 6th January 13:45
Spanglepants said:
Nothing sad about dealing with them. Ok it was a long time ago but me and my Dad dealt with someone who'd nicked my bike and we then caught him on it , Dad drove straight into him knocking him off then he was dealt with.
Risky, surely not worth going to jail for a scumbag?Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff