RJ Almost got bikejacked

[AstonZagato]

They are lucky to have caught them.

I had my phone stolen by a couple of scrotes on a scooter yesterday. They covered up the number plate.

When I was chatting to the police, they told me that, if they pursue one of these tossers, the first thing the perps do is throw off their helmets. They police aren't then allowed to continue the chase in case the little petals hurt themselves.

[Mr2Mike]

Iva Barchetta said:

I wondered if that was happening but it's not obvious on a phone screen.

There's one scrote on a scooter pushing a Street Triple with his foot which has another obvious scrote on board. You think that looks perfectly innocent?

[Iva Barchetta]

Mr2Mike said:

Iva Barchetta said:

I wondered if that was happening but it's not obvious on a phone screen.

There's one scrote on a scooter pushing a Street Triple with his foot which has another obvious scrote on board. You think that looks perfectly innocent?

TBH even on a proper laptop screen it's not immediately obvious that he's pushing with his foot.

Sorry, I'm not a biker who would know where scooter blokes leg should be....

[Ed.]

btdk5 said:

myvision said:

Do we think these are all legit bikes?
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hundreds-of-...

Why wouldn't they be?

The quads don't have plates,are you suggesting they just fell off?

[catso]

Some action at last;

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2017/02/04/...

More info here; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4191502/In...

[sjtscott]

catso said:

Some action at last;

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2017/02/04/...

More info here; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4191502/In...

WOW Stunned at this actually happening, but good. However in central london I dare say this would be more tricky given traffic levels

[UnluckyTimmeh]

Maybe a stupid question, but what are they doing with the stolen bikes? Breaking them for spares? Sending them abroad?

[SystemParanoia]

UnluckyTimmeh said:

Maybe a stupid question, but what are they doing with the stolen bikes? Breaking them for spares? Sending them abroad?

It seems like a recursive loop of stealing bikes to enable them to steal more bikes

[gareth_r]

Moulder said:

This part is reassuring...

"The Met said it was using an "Achilles Heel" style approach - a tactic used to catch gangster Al Capone - to stop repeat offenders who can not be prosecuted for crimes for which they are suspected. It means they are being pursued for less serious crimes, including having no insurance, no licence or other driving offences."

Four SP30s and they'll be off our streets for 12 months.

I just found out that the police have the solution.

I assume that they are taking the lessons of the United States Internal Revenue Service vs A. Capone fully on board. Syphilis and an 11 year gaol sentence in 1930s American prison conditions is a little lenient, but I suppose it's the best we can hope for in the current political climate.

[998420]

gareth_r said:

I just found out that the police have the solution.

I assume that they are taking the lessons of the United States Internal Revenue Service vs A. Capone fully on board. Syphilis and an 11 year gaol sentence in 1930s American prison conditions is a little lenient, but I suppose it's the best we can hope for in the current political climate.

Giving them syphillis is actually a great idea, make it hurt too while you are doing the giving

[Biker 1]

anonymous said:

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Or if you work in the sticks where you can see your P & J through the office window, sitting there under a canopy!

[freddytin]

Biker 1 said:

anonymous said:

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Or if you work in the sticks where you can see your P & J through the office window, sitting there under a canopy!

And work supplies you with a fully loaded sniper rifle

[stitched]

boxxob said:

as people have said, if the courts are not interested in removing these people from their ability to commit more crime, by punishing them appropriately, and the police operations don't target the whole of the organised system, then where will it actually lead?

Save having your bike actually detonate and 'scuttle' itself, there's not much you can do (other than move the game on for the thieves) unless councils provide resilient anchors. A lock-key system could be created which, secures it to the pavement, but this would require coordination between manufacturers and local authorities. The irony is, if the authorities were able to ensure plentiful, secure motorcycle parking along with much, much higher levels of prevention/detection/reduction of associated crimes, then they could solve most of the congestion problems. The simple reason this doesn't happen is there's no money or political capital to gained in advancing the use of motorcycles, however effective it could/would be.

Edited by boxxob on Monday 6th February 10:05

Or you could try the approach used in the 'sticks'
When my not often used push bike was stolen off my mums drive then I started asking questions, 3 years later I got the name and location of the thief.
We had words and he moved away from the area.
His parents came round to remonstrate and were told that he had got off lightly, my stepdad would have physically punished him. I merely told his peers that he was an untrustworthy thieving .
If you really want to find out who has stolen your stuff then you will.

[Wacky Racer]

Moulder said:

This part is reassuring...

"The Met said it was using an "Achilles Heel" style approach - a tactic used to catch gangster Al Capone - to stop repeat offenders who can not be prosecuted for crimes for which they are suspected. It means they are being pursued for less serious crimes, including having no insurance, no licence or other driving offences."

Four SP30s and they'll be off our streets for 12 months.

Do you honestly think these scrotes will bother about that, they probably haven't even got a driving licence.

[rampageturke]

UnluckyTimmeh said:

Maybe a stupid question, but what are they doing with the stolen bikes? Breaking them for spares? Sending them abroad?

IIRC there was an article months ago of them being stripped down into wooden boxes and shipped off. But you also have ones who would just steal to joyride then destroy them, who knows.

[SystemParanoia]

rampageturke said:

UnluckyTimmeh said:

Maybe a stupid question, but what are they doing with the stolen bikes? Breaking them for spares? Sending them abroad?

IIRC there was an article months ago of them being stripped down into wooden boxes and shipped off. But you also have ones who would just steal to joyride then destroy them, who knows.

from all the videos ive seen, its not just for a joy ride.. they arrive on bikes with battery powered angle grinders normally 2 or 3 of them.
they beat the disk locks by removing the section of brake disk its attached to!

they're taking them to their fence. who is then doing whatever.

the thieves are on the bottom rung of all this, but probably making a few hundred £££ per bike nicked.

[SHutchinson]

stitched said:

boxxob said:

as people have said, if the courts are not interested in removing these people from their ability to commit more crime, by punishing them appropriately, and the police operations don't target the whole of the organised system, then where will it actually lead?

Save having your bike actually detonate and 'scuttle' itself, there's not much you can do (other than move the game on for the thieves) unless councils provide resilient anchors. A lock-key system could be created which, secures it to the pavement, but this would require coordination between manufacturers and local authorities. The irony is, if the authorities were able to ensure plentiful, secure motorcycle parking along with much, much higher levels of prevention/detection/reduction of associated crimes, then they could solve most of the congestion problems. The simple reason this doesn't happen is there's no money or political capital to gained in advancing the use of motorcycles, however effective it could/would be.

Edited by boxxob on Monday 6th February 10:05

Or you could try the approach used in the 'sticks'
When my not often used push bike was stolen off my mums drive then I started asking questions, 3 years later I got the name and location of the thief.
We had words and he moved away from the area.
His parents came round to remonstrate and were told that he had got off lightly, my stepdad would have physically punished him. I merely told his peers that he was an untrustworthy thieving .
If you really want to find out who has stolen your stuff then you will.

Have you ever been to London? These kids would happily stab you on your doorstep while their pal live-streamed it to Instagram. I can't help but feel 1950's village style robber-knobbling won't work on these occasions.

Edited by SHutchinson on Wednesday 8th February 10:57

[Renn Sport]

stitched said:

Or you could try the approach used in the 'sticks'
When my not often used push bike was stolen off my mums drive then I started asking questions, 3 years later I got the name and location of the thief.
We had words and he moved away from the area.
His parents came round to remonstrate and were told that he had got off lightly, my stepdad would have physically punished him. I merely told his peers that he was an untrustworthy thieving .
If you really want to find out who has stolen your stuff then you will.

Are you the EQUALISER! How can we contact you?

How are you going to deal with 'man dem' coming armed to remonstrate with you with a knife to 'wet you up'? If you manage to come out on top then your going to get shot up.

London grime. Not all criminals are weak and passive in the face of righteous force. They don't think for tomorrow or the future but getting disrespected like this publically will force their hand. You'll get shot. Standard.

Its no joke... and superman tactics when they know you is going to get you hurt.

[Prof Prolapse]

stitched said:

Or you could try the approach used in the 'sticks'
When my not often used push bike was stolen off my mums drive then I started asking questions, 3 years later I got the name and location of the thief.
We had words and he moved away from the area.
His parents came round to remonstrate and were told that he had got off lightly, my stepdad would have physically punished him. I merely told his peers that he was an untrustworthy thieving .
If you really want to find out who has stolen your stuff then you will.

Think about this for a moment.

You come up to their house, and insult them, maybe get them on their own. Their pride is wounded, and most of these little irks have nothing else. So you then have this man with nothing to lose, you've just given him something to prove, with no fear of retribution from the police, and he already knows where you live.

The way you suggest only way this works if they're very timid (typically these sort aren't), or you put the fear of god into them. For the latter you risk a lengthy prison term, and see the end of any professional career you've built up. If you have a family, and mortgage, you should also ask yourself some serious questions about who would look after them if you even went away for "just" a few months.

There comes a point where you just have to accept you can't punish them as you see fit. They're not getting away with anything, they live stty meaningless existences, they're vermin and they know it. That's why they behave as they do. You on the other hand have just had to stump up for insurance premiums, and enjoy a life these s will never have, so perhaps it's wise not to gamble with it, chasing pride.

Captain Ahab had a lot to teach us.

[black-k1]

stitched said:

Or you could try the approach used in the 'sticks'
When my not often used push bike was stolen off my mums drive then I started asking questions, 3 years later I got the name and location of the thief.
We had words and he moved away from the area.
His parents came round to remonstrate and were told that he had got off lightly, my stepdad would have physically punished him. I merely told his peers that he was an untrustworthy thieving .
If you really want to find out who has stolen your stuff then you will.

Really?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-378858...