RJ Almost got bikejacked
Discussion
boxxob said:
yeah, of course, the public are to blame when the police simply abandon upholding the law, and allow stolen bikes, probably ridden by unlicensed, uninsured riders, probably covered head to toe in stolen goods, probably with a huge list of apprehending/convictions behind them, are roaming around busy city centres in full view of thousands of eyes and cameras. Mind you, why would the police bother when the courts treat it so casually and the scrotes amass dozens, if not hundreds of crimes, behind them before there's any chance of the custodial sentence that will the only way to provide some respite to the public.
The public is at fault, because they accept a situation where police are routinely examined in the minutest detail, often for years, whenever anything goes wrong. Given that, I have no surprise that the police do not want to take any risks that the offender will be hurt and I can't blame them. The courts in the UK are no softer than any other reasonably developed western country. Only the UK has rampant gangs of scooter criminals though. boxxob said:
creampuff said:
This is entirely self-inflicted by the British public, on themselves:
- Detailed investigations of police whenever something goes wrong; this can be career ending or put the officer under years of uncertainty
- Excessive focus on protecting criminals from injury, but not so much focus on protecting the public from injury from criminals
If the public complained about this, it would not have not got to this stage.
Why should the police put themselves at risk of being prosecuted themselves by apprehending crooks on scooters?
yeah, of course, the public are to blame when the police simply abandon upholding the law, and allow stolen bikes, probably ridden by unlicensed, uninsured riders, probably covered head to toe in stolen goods, probably with a huge list of apprehending/convictions behind them, are roaming around busy city centres in full view of thousands of eyes and cameras. Mind you, why would the police bother when the courts treat it so casually and the scrotes amass dozens, if not hundreds of crimes, behind them before there's any chance of the custodial sentence that will the only way to provide some respite to the public.- Detailed investigations of police whenever something goes wrong; this can be career ending or put the officer under years of uncertainty
- Excessive focus on protecting criminals from injury, but not so much focus on protecting the public from injury from criminals
If the public complained about this, it would not have not got to this stage.
Why should the police put themselves at risk of being prosecuted themselves by apprehending crooks on scooters?
A pox on all their houses...
CoolHands said:
Yay! One of the tealeafs gets unmasked. Looks suitably rat-like 
Nothing will come of it, old 'big-nose' was exposed earlier in the thread; his picture, name, address, phone number, place of work, even his facebook page offering R1s for a few hundred quid - I doubt the law have done anything about it.Yeah I know. I just feel happy that he's confirmed as a snivelling rat-faced rodent that we can see with a pathetic life. I will stop updating this thread now as it's clearly ongoing and the police are useless at stopping it (for all sorts of reasons, not really a dig at individual officers).
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/09/po...
May have some hope.....won't hold my breath though!
May have some hope.....won't hold my breath though!
https://youtu.be/Hk3Ewz7AJA0
Need to take a leaf out of the Estonians book.
Arresting them isn't going to make them stop. Fines will be paid off at 50p a week from their benefit package. They won't be jailed. There is literally nothing the legal system has to deter them.
The only thing that will deter them is to stop their family's benefits on conviction and put the guilty party on a register that makes them illegible to claim benefits for life.
Takes the piss that these people are not only living off the tax payer, they then spend their days robbing the tax payer for phones / bikes / money.
Need to take a leaf out of the Estonians book.
Arresting them isn't going to make them stop. Fines will be paid off at 50p a week from their benefit package. They won't be jailed. There is literally nothing the legal system has to deter them.
The only thing that will deter them is to stop their family's benefits on conviction and put the guilty party on a register that makes them illegible to claim benefits for life.
Takes the piss that these people are not only living off the tax payer, they then spend their days robbing the tax payer for phones / bikes / money.
OMNIO said:
https://youtu.be/Hk3Ewz7AJA0
Need to take a leaf out of the Estonians book.
Arresting them isn't going to make them stop. Fines will be paid off at 50p a week from their benefit package. They won't be jailed. There is literally nothing the legal system has to deter them.
The only thing that will deter them is to stop their family's benefits on conviction and put the guilty party on a register that makes them illegible to claim benefits for life.
Takes the piss that these people are not only living off the tax payer, they then spend their days robbing the tax payer for phones / bikes / money.
It would be interesting to know if such an approach actually reduces the level of crime. I'm not, in any way defending the scum who steal, and I don't really have a alternative approach that I think will "solve the problem", but ensuring that they have no money to live on is, I would have thought, likely to increase the amount of crime as they need to eat, live etc. somehow. Need to take a leaf out of the Estonians book.
Arresting them isn't going to make them stop. Fines will be paid off at 50p a week from their benefit package. They won't be jailed. There is literally nothing the legal system has to deter them.
The only thing that will deter them is to stop their family's benefits on conviction and put the guilty party on a register that makes them illegible to claim benefits for life.
Takes the piss that these people are not only living off the tax payer, they then spend their days robbing the tax payer for phones / bikes / money.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU4f41hj2B-/
Maybe a start to bucking the trend of just watching them pull up and take what they like?
Maybe a start to bucking the trend of just watching them pull up and take what they like?
sasha320 said:
These are excuses, in the current paradigm this may be true if applied literally with no lateral thinking. However the second that this issue becomes a 'priority' the police will find all the ingenuity and innovation they need to get the job done.
And they did!https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7420343/M...
sasha320 said:
sasha320 said:
These are excuses, in the current paradigm this may be true if applied literally with no lateral thinking. However the second that this issue becomes a 'priority' the police will find all the ingenuity and innovation they need to get the job done.
And they did!https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7420343/M...
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