Post accident report - anyone feeling investigative?

Post accident report - anyone feeling investigative?

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Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Dented wheels aren't that difficult. If it hit the kerb during the crash then that will do it.

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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If there's anything to hit then it could easily be dented off that. Unlikely that a pothole would do that.

GWS.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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The dented wheel takes very little force. Sliding into a barrier or other piece of road furniture will buckle the wheel easy if it catches it just right.

I can't believe the the bloke who helped you didn't insist on getting you to a hospital. I know he was probably just doing what he thought was right and no doubt you assured him that you were fine but he should have really overruled you on that.

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Wednesday 14th September 2016
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Is there a possibility someone has ran into the back of you and dove off?

The damage at the back seems a bit unusual although to be fair without knowing what actually happened it's nearly impossible to work out.

CypSIdders

851 posts

154 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Many years ago I crashed my 350YPVS, on my normal commute, on a road I'd ridden hundreds of times before.
I was going quite quickly, on a straight, the road was wet, there was a change in road surface from one type of tarmac to another.
As I crossed this transition the rear wheel came round on me, on my lefthand side, for no apparent reason.
I parted company with the bike and slid a fair way down the road, ahead of my bike, watching sparks flying off the bike.
I had minor injuries, the bike needed more mending than me.
I've no idea why the bike crashed that day, as I said it was a journey I did every day!

bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

248 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Get well soon and I hope your wife comes round to the idea of you getting another bike.

When I highsided last year, the hole in my shoulder looked a bit like the hole in your knee. It took bloody ages to heal and I had to change the dressing on it every two or three days. I think it was more than 3 months before it stopped weeping. Still, they do get better eventually.

On the day of the accident, sitting in A&E I wasn't feeling that keen on getting another bike and was wondering if my time on bikes had really come to an end, what with having one child (and another on the way again now). My wife was seriously not keen on me getting another bike. Still, I really feel that bikes are in the blood and so we had some serious and long discussions about it before we agreed that I would get another. Of course I said I'd do an IAM course, but that takes too much time to do so has been put by the wayside. I also now use a GPS app that emails my wife when I get to work so she knows I've made it there. Whatever happens, I'm sure you'll find a way to convince your wife and then you can go ahead and upgrade to the 750! smile

black-k1

11,924 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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I'm glad to hear you're still in one piece and on the mend. Walking away (or limping!) from such an event is really the only important thing. Everything else is fixable.

Gavia said:
If there's anything to hit then it could easily be dented off that. Unlikely that a pothole would do that.

GWS.
My front wheel looked exactly like that after hitting a substantial pot hole.

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Hope you're on the mend and have no lasting injuries :-)

Damage seem predominantly rear and to one side. Are you in the habit of popping wheelies? Overdoing a wheelie and smashing the rear into the road then dumping it on it's side might look a bit like your bike.

srob

11,608 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Looks like you hit a pothole or curb, got in a tankslapper and ended up on your ear knee. The bike probably slid backwards into something or got clipped?

If it wasn't for the dented front rim I'd have said it looks like you'd been run in the back of...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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If the road was freshly surfaced, I'm not sure a pothole's a likely culprit...

srob

11,608 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
If the road was freshly surfaced, I'm not sure a pothole's a likely culprit...
Ok, it was a generic term. It could a hole where a manhole cover is. Certainly around where I live they don't raise the ironworks when they spread that dust and stone mixture over the road and you're left with some nasty edges until they're rounded by traffic.

Or hit a block of wood, a piece of scaffolding, a brick... anything that could have been laying in the road.

Drawweight

2,883 posts

116 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Have you gone back and looked where the accident happened?

Skid marks or scrape marks will go a long way to finding out where the bike went at least.

That's the first thing i'd do.

airsafari87

2,581 posts

182 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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My best guess would be that you've flipped the bike?

Hit a large pot hole or whatever with the front wheel.
Front wheel has then come up (somehow)
The jolt has caused to you wrench open the throttle.
Flipped you off the back of the bike.
You've come down head first which kind of explains the helmet damage, then your legs have followed, and your knee hit the tarmac next, which would explain the hole in your leg?
Bike has flipped itself upside down (I assumed this because of the marks on the top of the handlebar controls)
Then rolled over on to its side, which would explain why the bike was pointing the wrong way up the road??

All of the above is purely speculative of course. But from the damage I've seen in your photos, it kind of makes sense to me?

Hope you have a speedy recovery too, that opening post wasn't nice to read at all.

dukeboy749r

2,625 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Needless to add - but hope you feel even better asap.

It is difficult to balance what you want and a partner may insist on - if you want a quiet life then one way, or the feeling you enjoy, you'll vote the other - but surely, right now, no rush?

Whatever the cause, you are (mostly) okay. For what it's worth - chill for a week or so. Catch up with that chap who stopped and see if you in the area, what the road looks like.

Mostly though, don't make any rushed decisions and make your wife feel her view is important too.

Best wishes


Dakkon

7,826 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Looks like it is two options:

1) You did or didn't do something and binned it, could you have used too much throttle and flipped the bike?
2) Someone hit you from behind?

Given the damage to the back, I am surprised there is not more fairing damage?

As already suggested, I would go back to the scene of the accident and see what marks are on the road etc? Tyre mark, scratches, try to work out if a another vehicle was involved and drove off?

andyr30

613 posts

186 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Wishing you a speedy recovery and hopefully can piece together what has happened.

Looks like possibly may have low sided onto the right side, bike has rotated around so back wheel is now going forward and then dug in, smashed the rear up, flipped over, landed on front wheel causing the dint and then come to rest?

Wildfire

9,789 posts

252 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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Bl**dy hell mate! I was really worried when I saw your post! Glad that you are ok, as you can be!

I'd have a look at the scene of the accident. While not the same, the front wheel of my TVR looked exactly the same when I hit a pot hole that blew the tyre out and destroyed the wheel.

Without knowing how and where the bike ended up, it may be hard to work out what happened. I would say that you either hit something or someone clipped your from behind.

The clipon looks like it has impacted the fairing bracket, which has broken that.

The rear left fairing looks to have potentially sustained impact damage, but that could be the rear light taking a hit on the right and shearing out left.

Get well soon and give me a shout if you need anything.

moanthebairns

17,938 posts

198 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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My best guess is you fked up. We all do. Although it's always nice to know why to try stopping it happening again.

Some crash more than others. It's normally me. Hope you heal well.


trickywoo

11,789 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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I reckon you pulled a massive wheelie knackering the rear and then landed it too hard resulting in the front wheel damage and going straight to the scene of the accident.

geeks

9,178 posts

139 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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I'd love to ride a bike, then I see posts like this and wonder if it is for me, which probably meas it isn't.. Get well soon and as for what happened, given the random damage and the memory loss...