Helmet cam ******

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Prizam

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2,346 posts

142 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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RemyMartin said:
Fit a discrete camera on the bike with a constant rewrite loop. If you need footage for an accident it's there. 99% forget and you won't care and you won't a) look like a cock with a camera on b) won't exacerbate any head injury should the worst happen c) become a self righteous prick.

ETA. In my opinion your riding looked ok, report the micra.
Thanks RE the riding.

I did trial mounting it on the bike first. But it picks up all the vibrations from the bike. It is also never looking where you want it too so really does not see anything. It also makes your cornering look like you are on a race track, so to the untrained, makes you seem like a loon.

Prizam

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2,346 posts

142 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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Update - Finally found some time to call it in. Details taken and passed to "Traffic Officers Team". Scary thing is, they know who i was from my mobile number. Yikes.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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Prizam said:
Update - Finally found some time to call it in. Details taken and passed to "Traffic Officers Team". Scary thing is, they know who i was from my mobile number. Yikes.
You've called them before.

croyde

22,965 posts

231 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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Very interested to see where they take it from here.


Prizam

Original Poster:

2,346 posts

142 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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Pothole said:
Prizam said:
Update - Finally found some time to call it in. Details taken and passed to "Traffic Officers Team". Scary thing is, they know who i was from my mobile number. Yikes.
You've called them before.
I really don't think i have. I did once pop in to a police station to report a stolen bicycle though. I guess they are not completely clueless after all.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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Prizam said:
Pothole said:
Prizam said:
Update - Finally found some time to call it in. Details taken and passed to "Traffic Officers Team". Scary thing is, they know who i was from my mobile number. Yikes.
You've called them before.
I really don't think i have. I did once pop in to a police station to report a stolen bicycle though. I guess they are not completely clueless after all.
They might well be, but their database retains information.

leighz

407 posts

133 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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8potdave

2,310 posts

214 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Horrendous bit of driving. You in no way did anything wrong there, let us know the outcome of this, as someone that is about to order a helmet cam purely for a project I'm doing I'd be interested to see whether it's worth having one on all the time. I'm no angel though to be perfectly honest so I'd be worried about incriminating myself if I get a bit throttle happy. I guess if you do get stopped just stamp on the fking thing and hope for the best biggrin

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Prof Prolapse said:
Whilst you've not done anything illegal, to me it looks like you were riding too fast and barely compensated for her illegal and completely retarded driving.

No offence.
Helmet cams give that impression.

Pope

2,639 posts

248 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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I use that junction 10-20x a day at work; the same thing happens with bikes, vans and now buses as they have made the once minor, speed bumped, quiet access road into a bus route for IKEA.

I have had four cars at once actually get to the junction and turn right!! Much fun!

The junction goes to two lanes right at the end and people think nothing of crossing the boundary to get to the front if everyone is to the left...

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Had the car hit you, there would be no arguing about who was to blame by your positioning in he road, so what use would the camera have been?

Had you no had the camera, you would have just muttered about it for a few minutes and forgotten about t. Instead you wasted a load of time down loading it, posting it on here and reading this ste.

Take the camera off your helmet and get on with your life.

FiF

44,121 posts

252 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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Part of the issue is people like that don't learn from their near misses. Other morning on the A449 there was an Evoque weaving about in lane 1, crossing the line into lane 2, speed control atrocious. Not in a hurry so sat back waiting for something to go wrong.

Sure enough someone overtook just as she, it proved to be a she, wandered over into lane 2 a bit, scared the crap out of her, swerved back into lane 1 and wobbled round a bit.

About half a mile later things seemed to have settled down so thought I'd go for the overtake. Passenger had a good look, the commentary was, young woman, blonde, 30's, Facebook/Snapchat/Instagram or some other ste, eyes down not looking the whole time we overtook slowly. Once past I got the foot in the bucket and got the hell away from the dopey cow.

I don't have a dash cam so there won't be YouTube footage.

OP, nail her, too much of this going on.

Edited just seen you already reported it, not a biker but don't see anything wrong with your riding tbh.


creampuff

6,511 posts

144 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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FiF said:
OP, nail her, too much of this going on.
I thought he was just going to report it?

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

196 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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creampuff said:
FiF said:
OP, nail her, too much of this going on.
I thought he was just going to report it?
We're raising the stakes.

Poor driving is now punishable with disappointing sex; standards are sure to rise.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Prof Prolapse said:
Whilst you've not done anything illegal, to me it looks like you were riding too fast and barely compensated for her illegal and completely retarded driving.

No offence.
You must be talking out of where your prolapse happened!!!

No way is this the riders fault. I see no problem with a small head cam as long as you don't constantly point to it while yelling "UR ON CAMERA M9".

Nothing wrong with protecting yourself or having the ability to review footage whether it's you at fault or another driver.

Prizam

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2,346 posts

142 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Willy Nilly said:
Had the car hit you, there would be no arguing about who was to blame by your positioning in he road, so what use would the camera have been?

Had you no had the camera, you would have just muttered about it for a few minutes and forgotten about t. Instead you wasted a load of time down loading it, posting it on here and reading this ste.

Take the camera off your helmet and get on with your life.
A couple of years ago, i would have been with you on this.

However, in the last 2 years i have had some one cut in to me on the motorway. We collided, by the grace of massive motorbike i managed to stay on. Thankfully he fessed up, but could have quite easily been a 50/50 on insurance.


I have had a school run mum numpty come belting round a parked car on a tight road right at me. I missed her with an emergency stop, but my footing let me down and i dropped the bike. She drove off... until she saw that other people had stopped and were talking too me. Fearing that they would be a "witness" to her, she came belting back, stopped diagonally across the road and started giving it the verbal. About how i "Road raged" her, and how she had kids on the car... Poor single mummy etc... And then even phoned the police. Thread is some ware here.


After that incident i sucked up the repairs to my bike (Cylinder head scratched) and got me a head camera.

I hate it hate it hate it!

But you know what, in the "Almost incident" last week, the most likely scenario had she hit me, would be to drive off. Leaving me with a broken bike at the side of the road, and maby more broken with me. Even if i had witnesses, they would be unlikely to have her plate.

With the camera, insurance and the coppers could nail her to the wall. As it stands, i just hope the coppers give her a good telling off. Driving like that is far too common and really needs stopping before she does some real damage.

mgv8

1,632 posts

272 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Prizam said:
A couple of years ago, i would have been with you on this.

However, in the last 2 years i have had some one cut in to me on the motorway. We collided, by the grace of massive motorbike i managed to stay on. Thankfully he fessed up, but could have quite easily been a 50/50 on insurance.


I have had a school run mum numpty come belting round a parked car on a tight road right at me. I missed her with an emergency stop, but my footing let me down and i dropped the bike. She drove off... until she saw that other people had stopped and were talking too me. Fearing that they would be a "witness" to her, she came belting back, stopped diagonally across the road and started giving it the verbal. About how i "Road raged" her, and how she had kids on the car... Poor single mummy etc... And then even phoned the police. Thread is some ware here.


After that incident i sucked up the repairs to my bike (Cylinder head scratched) and got me a head camera.

I hate it hate it hate it!

But you know what, in the "Almost incident" last week, the most likely scenario had she hit me, would be to drive off. Leaving me with a broken bike at the side of the road, and maby more broken with me. Even if i had witnesses, they would be unlikely to have her plate.

With the camera, insurance and the coppers could nail her to the wall. As it stands, i just hope the coppers give her a good telling off. Driving like that is far too common and really needs stopping before she does some real damage.
Yep that is my point. Plus she would have not given it the BS if she had seen the cam. I don't post mine on-line but its so worth having.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

213 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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A couple of years ago I had a knock on the door within a quarter of an hour of returning from work. On opening the door I was greeted by two police officers enquiring whether I was the owner of a Yamaha registration xxxxxx. After confirming that I was I was then told I had a complaint made against me for criminal damage where I was accused of intentionally smashing off a car wing mirror.

After being put under caution and answering some questions nothing more was heard about it. It was a case of their word against mine, however, if an "independent" witness has corroborated the story I could potentially have got a criminal record, which would have cost me my job. So with the amount of poor driving and insurance fraud going on I don't blame anyone with a camera. When I phoned the local station for a status update on my incident the Sgt (a biker) said it would be a good idea.




julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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I have no objections to people with cams save for two things

1) Its to protect yourself not prosecute others, so the endless showing of slightly dodgy driving needs to stop. If there is an accident then the camera is invaluable to apportion blame.

2) No one in their right mind should attach a camera to their helmet. The camera should be attached to the bike in a place your head is unlikely to hit in the event of the accident

mgv8

1,632 posts

272 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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julian64 said:
I have no objections to people with cams save for two things

1) Its to protect yourself not prosecute others, so the endless showing of slightly dodgy driving needs to stop. If there is an accident then the camera is invaluable to apportion blame.
The problem with that is the number of people wanting to see it on youtube is to high. Demand need supply. Not may cup of tea but there is a thread on here that is very big just of this kind of video.