In the market...Speed Triple, RNineT or...
Discussion
patchb said:
I love my gen 2 Tuono, it handles well, sounds great and goes a lot better than it's 140bhp would have you believe (although mine is mapped for the akra's and -1 tooth on the front)
Are they really 140 bhp? Sounds very optimistic to me considering the era they originated from and figures from similar engines from other manufacturers. 114bhp perhaps?anonymous said:
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They are about 125bhp at the wheel max - usually around 120bhp. A little less than 2011 Speed Triple. They are very punchy in the mid range though.Regarding speed Triple - the R is not really worth the premium unless you want the cosmetics. The fork seals on the Ohlins pop very regularly and the brakes are already fantastic on the standard model. The shock is the only real advantage, but Speed Triple R Ohlins shocks come up on e-bay quite regularly in the 3-400 quid range, if you wanted one. I would wager that getting standard forks rebuilt and re-sprung for your weight would make them better than 5 year old Ohlins anyway.
Tall_Paul said:
139bhp at the crank is the official figure. Plus a couple of bhp with map2 and the akra silencers (no cats).
My RSV made 113 at the rear, my second RSV - the newer shape twin made 119 both were end can and eprom chip only Think I went up a couple teeth on first one. Top speed was less but brilliant at the time on acceleration... But seriously you cannot compare the power to the vee four version, chalk and cheese
Birky_41 said:
Tall_Paul said:
139bhp at the crank is the official figure. Plus a couple of bhp with map2 and the akra silencers (no cats).
My RSV made 113 at the rear, my second RSV - the newer shape twin made 119 both were end can and eprom chip only Think I went up a couple teeth on first one. Top speed was less but brilliant at the time on acceleration... But seriously you cannot compare the power to the vee four version, chalk and cheese
Tall_Paul said:
Birky_41 said:
Tall_Paul said:
139bhp at the crank is the official figure. Plus a couple of bhp with map2 and the akra silencers (no cats).
My RSV made 113 at the rear, my second RSV - the newer shape twin made 119 both were end can and eprom chip only Think I went up a couple teeth on first one. Top speed was less but brilliant at the time on acceleration... But seriously you cannot compare the power to the vee four version, chalk and cheese
The 2011 on Speed triples dyno at rear wheel in low 120s and about 3bhp more if they have Triumph map and pipes. Another couple more for full system (de-catted). They are a little heavier than the Tuono V2 but if you go for a low exhaust you ditch about 7kg which brings them to about the same weight. Neither of the bikes are about top end though.
The new street is more modern engine layout, but at 765bhp and 125bhp at crank it will likely dyno at around 113bhp and be considerably down on low end punch and torque. It'll be lighter though - more MT09 like.
I'd say the biggest difference between Tuono V2 and 2011> Speed Triple from a buyers perspective is that low mileage Tuonos are pricey but over 10 years old now. If you need a very reliable bike 'do everything' bike, a little more money will get you a 5 year old Speed 3.
3DP said:
We all know though that Italian quoted horsepower tend to be a bit weaker than Japanese, German or British horsepower.
The 2011 on Speed triples dyno at rear wheel in low 120s and about 3bhp more if they have Triumph map and pipes. Another couple more for full system (de-catted). They are a little heavier than the Tuono V2 but if you go for a low exhaust you ditch about 7kg which brings them to about the same weight. Neither of the bikes are about top end though.
The new street is more modern engine layout, but at 765bhp and 125bhp at crank it will likely dyno at around 113bhp and be considerably down on low end punch and torque. It'll be lighter though - more MT09 like.
I'd say the biggest difference between Tuono V2 and 2011> Speed Triple from a buyers perspective is that low mileage Tuonos are pricey but over 10 years old now. If you need a very reliable bike 'do everything' bike, a little more money will get you a 5 year old Speed 3.
Yeah at the wheel the gen2 Tuono is around 110-115bhp, they have a few less BHP than the RSVR, but a little more mid-range torque. The earliest gen2 Tuono's are from 2006 so only just 10 years old - mine is an 09, one of the last factory models (they made the R until 2011), bought with under 12k on the clock, for £5250. And it's a factory version with all the trimmings - full ohlins, lashings of carbon and Forged wheels. You can get a 2-3 year younger Speed triple R but they're a good couple of grand more...The 2011 on Speed triples dyno at rear wheel in low 120s and about 3bhp more if they have Triumph map and pipes. Another couple more for full system (de-catted). They are a little heavier than the Tuono V2 but if you go for a low exhaust you ditch about 7kg which brings them to about the same weight. Neither of the bikes are about top end though.
The new street is more modern engine layout, but at 765bhp and 125bhp at crank it will likely dyno at around 113bhp and be considerably down on low end punch and torque. It'll be lighter though - more MT09 like.
I'd say the biggest difference between Tuono V2 and 2011> Speed Triple from a buyers perspective is that low mileage Tuonos are pricey but over 10 years old now. If you need a very reliable bike 'do everything' bike, a little more money will get you a 5 year old Speed 3.
A 2010/2011 model tuono R is around £5-6000.Speed triple R's are lovely, a 2011 R model with the forged wheels was on my list but it was always going to be the Tuono factory
Edited by Tall_Paul on Wednesday 1st February 20:18
Hey, mine's not a V4, you can't blame me!
buy a v4, buy a v4....
Just be aware with the V4's they made some improvements on the 2014 model, a slightly larger tank, better front calipers and a few other bits I forget.
The easiest way to tell, the new '14 model has these calipers;
and the older model these ones:
buy a v4, buy a v4....
Just be aware with the V4's they made some improvements on the 2014 model, a slightly larger tank, better front calipers and a few other bits I forget.
The easiest way to tell, the new '14 model has these calipers;
and the older model these ones:
Yeah that's a '14 model, think they came out late 2013 for the 2014 model year. They only come in white or black too for that year.
Better ABS was also a change.
Better ABS was also a change.
MCN said:
Aprilia has given the Aprilia Tuono V4R a comprehensive makeover just two years after the bike was launched, with more power, even more advanced electronics, new brakes and a larger fuel tank.
The naked Tuono V4R has received the same host of changes that were seen on the RSV4 earlier this year, with the 999cc V4 engine given a bit more power with a mild 3bhp power-boost to 170bhp claimed peak power thanks to reduced internal friction and modified sump along with a new exhaust system.
Other engine changes include revised timing, 20mm longer inlet tracts, a heavier crankshaft flywheel for improved smoothness, shorter gear ratios in the first three gears and the peak power now delivered lower at 11,500rpm.
Aprilia hasn’t just worked to improve performance; there have been changes aimed at making it easier to ride, thanks to revised suspension settings and a new 43mm Sachs fork.
The larger fuel tank (up 1.5 litres) has also been redesigned to make it more comfortable for the rider to grip and brace against when cornering or braking hard.
New brakes boast Brembo M432 radial calipers and new 320mm discs which have a revised cross-drilled pattern claimed to give better feel under hard use.
Tied to the hardware is a revised electronics package, adding multiple-mode ABS, traction control, anti-rear wheel lift, wheelie control, launch control, and a quickshifter.
This is the debut for ABS on a Tuono, and it’s just part of the Aprilia Performance Ride Control (APRC) first seen on the RSV4. The Aprilia-developed system is the most advanced available with a self-calibrating tyre-circumference system which takes into account tyre wear and joins together all of the ABS, traction control, wheelie control, launch control and anti-rear wheel lift systems.
The eight-level traction control can be adjusted on the move, and allows a degree of wheelspin while cornering. The wheelie control has three settings and will allow the front wheel to hover over the Tarmac, while the launch control has three settings and works with the quickshifter.
The new Tuono is available in dealers now for £12,342 on the road.
The naked Tuono V4R has received the same host of changes that were seen on the RSV4 earlier this year, with the 999cc V4 engine given a bit more power with a mild 3bhp power-boost to 170bhp claimed peak power thanks to reduced internal friction and modified sump along with a new exhaust system.
Other engine changes include revised timing, 20mm longer inlet tracts, a heavier crankshaft flywheel for improved smoothness, shorter gear ratios in the first three gears and the peak power now delivered lower at 11,500rpm.
Aprilia hasn’t just worked to improve performance; there have been changes aimed at making it easier to ride, thanks to revised suspension settings and a new 43mm Sachs fork.
The larger fuel tank (up 1.5 litres) has also been redesigned to make it more comfortable for the rider to grip and brace against when cornering or braking hard.
New brakes boast Brembo M432 radial calipers and new 320mm discs which have a revised cross-drilled pattern claimed to give better feel under hard use.
Tied to the hardware is a revised electronics package, adding multiple-mode ABS, traction control, anti-rear wheel lift, wheelie control, launch control, and a quickshifter.
This is the debut for ABS on a Tuono, and it’s just part of the Aprilia Performance Ride Control (APRC) first seen on the RSV4. The Aprilia-developed system is the most advanced available with a self-calibrating tyre-circumference system which takes into account tyre wear and joins together all of the ABS, traction control, wheelie control, launch control and anti-rear wheel lift systems.
The eight-level traction control can be adjusted on the move, and allows a degree of wheelspin while cornering. The wheelie control has three settings and will allow the front wheel to hover over the Tarmac, while the launch control has three settings and works with the quickshifter.
The new Tuono is available in dealers now for £12,342 on the road.
If it's the one I think it is (5149 miles?), then it looks in mint condition. It was registered in October 2013 so probably one of the first 2014 models. I'd be buying on condition, these bikes should be kept clean
Oh and I bought mine from Northern Ireland, so a few hours jaunt up the motorway is much easier!
Oh and I bought mine from Northern Ireland, so a few hours jaunt up the motorway is much easier!
Tall_Paul said:
If it's the one I think it is (5149 miles?), then it looks in mint condition. It was registered in October 2013 so probably one of the first 2014 models. I'd be buying on condition, these bikes should be kept clean
Oh and I bought mine from Northern Ireland, so a few hours jaunt up the motorway is much easier!
Absolutely... Don't be a tw@t like this guy who rides all year round... Oh wait that's me lol Oh and I bought mine from Northern Ireland, so a few hours jaunt up the motorway is much easier!
Birky_41 said:
Tall_Paul said:
If it's the one I think it is (5149 miles?), then it looks in mint condition. It was registered in October 2013 so probably one of the first 2014 models. I'd be buying on condition, these bikes should be kept clean
Oh and I bought mine from Northern Ireland, so a few hours jaunt up the motorway is much easier!
Absolutely... Don't be a tw@t like this guy who rides all year round... Oh wait that's me lol Oh and I bought mine from Northern Ireland, so a few hours jaunt up the motorway is much easier!
https://youtu.be/FyU1a4c1Tdk
That's wrong that is, how could you!
I'm just at the stage now where bikes like the Tuono v4 and sportbikes like Ducati 848 are reasonable for insurance, i.e. £600 or less. I've had my licence 2 years now and have a couple of years NCD on the CB400 and a year on the Tuono.
35, decent postcode (not bad but not amazing), with one zero value accident which has made all of about £5 difference.
I'm paying £500 for the Tuono, should be down to £370 next renewal - if I was to remove commuting that would bring it down to £300 but I enjoy the odd friday summer commute.
35, decent postcode (not bad but not amazing), with one zero value accident which has made all of about £5 difference.
I'm paying £500 for the Tuono, should be down to £370 next renewal - if I was to remove commuting that would bring it down to £300 but I enjoy the odd friday summer commute.
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