Go-Pro Hero 5

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Fats25

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6,260 posts

229 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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I could post this in the Tech section, but I think 90% of all videos I make are bike related so thought I would try here first. My Go-Pro has finally stopped working, and will no longer charge. Have had it about 8 years - so has lasted well. I did look to replace last year, when the 4 was on sale, and noticed that the 5 was due for release soon, and on looking today it is released now.

I want the action one rather than the session, as although I don't use the screen for viewing whilst on the go, I do use it for postioning the camera. £100 is a lot for a screen - but I would want it.

Anyone have one?

Curious on noise levels whilst on the bike (was one of the disappointments of my very old Go-Pro), also battery power, and how much storage is required for videos in high frame rate? To compare my current device ran out of battery before it ran out of storage (32Gb) after approx 2 hours. Are they any better on battery and noise nowadays?

Mansells Tash

5,713 posts

206 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Fats25 said:
I could post this in the Tech section, but I think 90% of all videos I make are bike related so thought I would try here first. My Go-Pro has finally stopped working, and will no longer charge. Have had it about 8 years - so has lasted well. I did look to replace last year, when the 4 was on sale, and noticed that the 5 was due for release soon, and on looking today it is released now.

I want the action one rather than the session, as although I don't use the screen for viewing whilst on the go, I do use it for postioning the camera. £100 is a lot for a screen - but I would want it.

Anyone have one?

Curious on noise levels whilst on the bike (was one of the disappointments of my very old Go-Pro), also battery power, and how much storage is required for videos in high frame rate? To compare my current device ran out of battery before it ran out of storage (32Gb) after approx 2 hours. Are they any better on battery and noise nowadays?
I can only speak regarding my hero 4 with all the bells and whistles, and its basically the same story with the sound and battery I'm afraid. Little to no improvement over my old hero 2. That said the picture quality and features have improved.

BobSaunders

3,033 posts

155 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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https://gopro.com/help/articles/Question_Answer/Ho...

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/10/gopro-hero5-bl...

"Now battery life is an interesting nugget. Mostly because GoPro has been so evasive on written answers here. Even when talking to GoPro reps directly, you get various answers (all of which were incorrect in the end). So earlier, GoPro was saying an hour of battery life for 4K footage. But in reality, it’s closer to 1hr 31mins when I tested it."

"Here’s some quick tests that I’ve done with just straight recording times:

1080p 30FPS (Wide): 2:07:41 (no WiFi/GPS), 1:50:52 (WiFi/GPS enabled)

2.7K 30FPS (Wide): 1:45:05 (with WiFi Enabled)

4K 30FPS (Wide): 1:31:10 (with WiFi enabled)"

Not true GPS, more of a "i'm in Manchester" tag on the video - like the iphone.

Could you not just power it off the bike battery?

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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One of the downsides of the GoPro5 is that it cannot record whilst powered by USB, unlike the GoPro4 Silver/Black.

Biggest upsides of the GP5 are going to be image stabilisation and ability to output RAW photos. Battery life is shorter compared to GP4.

mckeann

2,986 posts

229 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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I've got a 1,2 and 4. Battery life has gotten worse but picture quality has gotten better. Sound quality is the same but can be a big difference depending on where you position. I also found a little bit of electrical tape over the mic quitened down the worst of the wind noise but kept engine noise ok.

On the newer ones you don't need the screen. You can use Bluetooth or wifi or whatever it is to send the image to an app on your smartphone. Just remember to turn that off once you have it positioned or it chews through the battery even faster.

Fats25

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6,260 posts

229 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Some good feedback there. Many Thanks.

Especially in relation to the bluetooth to phone, and not requiring a screen. Unfortunately due to where I expect to use it the most (in the desert) I think I will still require the screen, as getting the phone in and out will be a PITA. However is food for thought.

The battery is still the weak point by all accounts, and the fact you cannot record whilst USB plugged in also limits use in cars, seems like a fundamental design flaw. Based on this feedback, I thought looking at the prices of the Hero 4 may save me some cash, but a brief look seems to suggest they are more expensive than the Hero 5! Have they become the ATV2 of their generation for a reason? scratchchin

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Fats25 said:
The battery is still the weak point by all accounts, and the fact you cannot record whilst USB plugged in also limits use in cars, seems like a fundamental design flaw. Based on this feedback, I thought looking at the prices of the Hero 4 may save me some cash, but a brief look seems to suggest they are more expensive than the Hero 5! Have they become the ATV2 of their generation for a reason? scratchchin
Just returned from the French Alps where GP4 and GP5 were on sale at all the big stores. GP4 definitely not being discounted as it has the same stellar image quality as GP5 but with more flexibility and power options. 3rd party GP4 batteries are plentiful and cheap - I just carry 3 extra batteries which are enough for a whole day and get recharged by a single USB adaptor within an hour or so.

Fats25

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229 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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spareparts said:
I just carry 3 extra batteries which are enough for a whole day and get recharged by a single USB adaptor within an hour or so.
Sorry Ade for stupid questions, but can you recharge direct ? Or do you still need the Go Pro "housing" with battery in to charge? Not used anything since my Hero!

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Are you dead set on a Go-Pro?
Have you considered an Olfi One.Five which uses Go-Pro mounting system/accessories etc.
http://www.camerajabber.com/olfi-one-five-verdict-...
Sound is supposed to be good on it & it has a screen.

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Fats25 said:
spareparts said:
I just carry 3 extra batteries which are enough for a whole day and get recharged by a single USB adaptor within an hour or so.
Sorry Ade for stupid questions, but can you recharge direct ? Or do you still need the Go Pro "housing" with battery in to charge? Not used anything since my Hero!
This is what I bought. Works brilliantly. Batteries last as long as the original GP battery.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B013D1Z57U/ref...

Fats25

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Monday 9th January 2017
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spareparts said:
This is what I bought. Works brilliantly. Batteries last as long as the original GP battery.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B013D1Z57U/ref...
Doesnt work for the 5! Sure there will be an option soon.

vonhosen said:
Are you dead set on a Go-Pro?
I am really. Am a bit of a fanboy! smile

spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Fats25 said:
spareparts said:
This is what I bought. Works brilliantly. Batteries last as long as the original GP battery.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B013D1Z57U/ref...
Doesnt work for the 5! Sure there will be an option soon.
Once the new shape batteries become more popular, for sure...

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Just a thought. Go Pro are very expensive and effectively are a very small camera in a water proof case. What if you got a waterproof case for your compact digital and used the 1/4inch screw hole to mount it to your bike?

Andy XRV

3,843 posts

180 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Hi Chris. I've not tried the 5 yet but as it wont record while being charged from an external battery I probably wont bother. I have the Hero 4 Black & Hero 4 Session and TBH for the bike the session is by far the better camera. It's much quicker to pair with the phone to setup and as it's one button to turn on and record it's simples to use, even with gloves on. Much smaller mean less vibration and more mounting options too. No case to faff around with and with a front and rear mic the audio is pretty good too.

HammyUK

129 posts

101 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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I didn't bother with a GoPro.
We use them commercially and they are a PITA 99% of the time.

My own use I got the VirbX via Decathlon online for £279
No screen BUT the Virb app negates the need, perfect sound, image stabilisation, true GPS, G-Metrics, overlays, all gopro mounts work, its waterproof without needing a case, wifi, bluetooth, will run from a power lead and charge at the same time, output video, external mic, etc, etc, etc.

Will also work with Garmin satnavs to locate, start/stop, view too.


graeme4130

3,828 posts

181 months

Tuesday 10th January 2017
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I played around with Go-pro's for a while, and got p'd off with the batteries and various other little bits that kept going wrong
Use a Garmin VribXE now, which although a little more expensive at around £250, it doesn't have all the hassles of a go-pro and overlays all your data for you (if that's what you want)
https://youtu.be/yEHEUspEcAU

Fats25

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6,260 posts

229 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Found this.

http://shop.gopro.com/accessories-2/supercharger-i...

Going to go for the 5 with the screen. Will keep you posted how I get on.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

115 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Andy XRV said:
Hi Chris. I've not tried the 5 yet but as it wont record while being charged from an external battery I probably wont bother. I have the Hero 4 Black & Hero 4 Session and TBH for the bike the session is by far the better camera. It's much quicker to pair with the phone to setup and as it's one button to turn on and record it's simples to use, even with gloves on. Much smaller mean less vibration and more mounting options too. No case to faff around with and with a front and rear mic the audio is pretty good too.
Yes it will record whilst plugged in to external power, what most people don't realise is that you can actually take the usb port door off to be able to plug it in whilst it is in its cage. Does make it not waterproof though.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

115 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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This video is a full night time time-lapse with my GP5 plugged in to a power bank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIUkxr-lmxI
And this is an example of the full info available from GPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cC5VPsc08w

Fats25

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229 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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HappyMidget said:
... to be able to plug it in whilst it is in its cage.
Stupid question of the day before I click to proceed. I assume the "cage" is built in now? i.e. no need to house the camera in a separate "cage". e.g. this is in the cage?



I have seen a separate waterproof cage that is coming out soon which looks like the old cage:-

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GoPro-Super-Suit-HERO5-Ca...

I don't think I need this though for my use on the bike. Although I may get later for in the water if I get a Jet-Ski.