New Fireblade US prices..

New Fireblade US prices..

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graeme4130

3,828 posts

181 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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MCN seem to have nothing but positives from it following the launch in Portimao
Video here ;
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-rides-tes...

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Ho Lee Kau said:
Renn Sport said:
I am a bit surprised at the prices as I thought it would be more competitive.

For my money I don't think its better than the R1 on spec. Standard R1 vs Standard Blade. I know, I know I haven't ridden it.

I'd rather have the R1 or a RSV4R. My mates on the other hand think this is the seconding coming of 'christ'. They are all but ready to order one now!

I was impressed with the pricing for the Africa Twin. Which is a ground up model and looks to be good quality.
How do you define "better"?
Better as a race bike on track? That's one thing.
Better as a street bike? That's a totally different thing.

R1 was made for track first, for street second. I rode R1, it has very committed seating position and really jerky throttle (which has been noted numerous times in numerous reviews as well).
Fireblade was always made street first and track second, and that what the development bosses for the current one said once again. I've ridden a couple of Fireblades, and I have 954RR myself, and they are great on the road, comfy, agile and friendly.

I'd also rather have an RSV4, RF though. But when I read Aprilia forums I rather like my problem-free japanese babies.
I define better in my own subjective way of course. I cannot see on paper it being better i.e. Faster, more sophisticated, better to ride and engaging than a R1, RSV4R and 1299. I have access to those bikes based on the speculative price indicated here.

I must admit that I am looking at this as a track bike as the performance cannot be realised on the road. Unless you're Michael Dunlop any litre bike on the road is not leaving any other litre bike behind. The only difference is rider ability and risk aversion on the road... which is basically stupid IMHO. Its not worth getting hurt on the road.

I had the previous generation Blade and loved it as a road bike but it was very old hat compared to the newer breed of sport bikes.

I have to agree about the Aprillia. One of the reasons I have not indulged is the reliability. However the bike is gorgeous in every way. The sound is immense.

trickywoo

11,793 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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graeme4130 said:
MCN seem to have nothing but positives from it following the launch in Portimao
Depends how you read it but if I had one on order this quote would worry me "It feels like a Blade, but a smaller Blade. It’s not intimidating at all, the last bike I rode here was a Panigale and I’ve done a BMW here too and they were really ‘woaaaah’, but this is quite easy and manageable"

Easy and manageable can be good but if I'm dropping big bucks on a superbike I want a bit of 'woaaah'.

Could be another firebland? boxedin

BobSaunders

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3,033 posts

155 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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trickywoo said:
graeme4130 said:
MCN seem to have nothing but positives from it following the launch in Portimao
Depends how you read it but if I had one on order this quote would worry me "It feels like a Blade, but a smaller Blade. It’s not intimidating at all, the last bike I rode here was a Panigale and I’ve done a BMW here too and they were really ‘woaaaah’, but this is quite easy and manageable"

Easy and manageable can be good but if I'm dropping big bucks on a superbike I want a bit of 'woaaah'.

Could be another firebland? boxedin
Depends how you are interpreting that (we are all different).

I am reading that the bike is stable, easy, and manageable = quick. Where as the Ducati and BMW were out of control and not stable, easy, and manageable, meaning more work to achieve what the blade is doing.

Looking forward to the inevitable shoot out's in the next month+. I will be buying several different magazines to obtain different opinions.

I just want to know if it will come in Repsol colours.. Otherwise i am not interested. Still tempted by the old one - i think it looks pretty in Repsol.

trickywoo

11,793 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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BobSaunders said:
Looking forward to the inevitable shoot out's in the next month+. I will be buying several different magazines to obtain different opinions.
Me too, by which time the GSXR should be in the mix also.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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BobSaunders said:
I just want to know if it will come in Repsol colours.. Otherwise i am not interested. Still tempted by the old one - i think it looks pretty in Repsol.
Apparently there will be three colour options for the RR but the SPs will only have one colourscheme each:

SP: Red with dark blue and little white highlights
SP2: Red with light blue and white

obscene

5,174 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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trickywoo said:
BobSaunders said:
Looking forward to the inevitable shoot out's in the next month+. I will be buying several different magazines to obtain different opinions.
Me too, by which time the GSXR should be in the mix also.
If the ebay prices I saw for the new GSXR1000 are accurate, base model is 13k and top spec is 16k. I imagine they will do very well if the bike lives up to expectations, even if the headlight is ugly.

CQ8

787 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Nicky Hayden's race Fireblade...



Looks fantastic to me!

Greg Vos

29 posts

88 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Tommo13 said:
I wonder if it will be "Special" enough not to need new engines and quick shifters as consumables as per the issues some have had on the board with Italian exotica ?
I am wondering exactly this? Looking at pricing in the UK and US it seems our local dealers are very competitive? makes me wonder if dealers in other countries try to get more margin?

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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CQ8 said:
Nicky Hayden's race Fireblade...



Looks fantastic to me!
That's awesome simply awesome! I am big Haydon fan and I hope he goes well on it. Bradl will be also in his rookie Superbike year. Should be a great year for WSB with Aprillia back and Marco Maiandre (spl) on the Ducati with Chas.


trickywoo said:
...by which time the GSXR should be in the mix also.
I am so interested in the GSXR1000. It seems to be the bike with the least fanfare and most competitive price (in the US at 14.5k).

199 bhp and variable timing (in a very clever way) and all of the other toys. I am secretly hoping that the GSXR1000 is the surprise package of 2017.






spareparts

6,777 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Renn Sport said:
I am so interested in the GSXR1000. It seems to be the bike with the least fanfare and most competitive price (in the US at 14.5k).

199 bhp and variable timing (in a very clever way) and all of the other toys. I am secretly hoping that the GSXR1000 is the surprise package of 2017.




Most generations of he GSXR have rarely disappointed as a 'no frills' superbike. Suzuki know how to make an engine with punch and character, smooth gearboxes, and good 'proper man sized' ergonomics. They have omitted overly fancy (and unnecessary?) electronics, preferring solid fundamentals and competitive pricing.

trickywoo

11,793 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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spareparts said:
They have omitted overly fancy (and unnecessary?) electronics, preferring solid fundamentals and competitive pricing.
They've thrown the whole Bosch IMU catalogue at this one. Hope its still good on the road and easy to work on.

Renn Sport

2,761 posts

209 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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trickywoo said:
spareparts said:
They have omitted overly fancy (and unnecessary?) electronics, preferring solid fundamentals and competitive pricing.
They've thrown the whole Bosch IMU catalogue at this one. Hope its still good on the road and easy to work on.
Yes the Suzuki superbike comes equipped and isn't lacking. These are great bikes on the road and on the track.

I hope the littlest of the big four pulls the rabbit out of the hat!