2017 GSXR 1000R

[trickywoo]

Reviews are starting to come out for the new GSXR 1000.

I like Motorcycle.com reviews http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/suzuki/suzu... but MCN have one out too and even the Suzuki hater Neves seems to like it - must be quite a decent ride.

This year is going to be great for the 1000 group test.

Shame they are all £16k+ now.

[Timbo_S2]

yup, looks awesome. Really looking forward to a group test between this, the blade and the S1000RR...

[Renn Sport]

Are they really going to be 16+k??!!!

https://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/motorcycles/motorcycle...

Flipping heck!

That's ridiculous. I was thinking that this bike would be the cut price market leader!

So the Aprillia and R1 are looking pretty good in comparison.

[trickywoo]

Renn Sport said:

Are they really going to be 16+k??!!!

Thats the bells and whistles model with the fancy suspension and electronics.

The base model is £13K (still a lot of money). The marketing is quite clever because if you can find £13k you can find another £3k and unless you are looking to race a superstocker the extras you get look good for the money.

That being said what is the secondhand market going to be like for these new 1000s. Used to be you could get a new one for £10k and at 10 years old it was still worth £5k. What will these be selling for in 5 / 10 years?

[rat840771]

Yeah it's getting a bit stupid on pricing now.

It will be interesting to see how the 2nd hand values hold for the Suzuki's as they are known to depreciate heavily.

Big bang Yams on the other hand appear to loose little money.

If i had the money i would by a pre reg MY16 RSV4/Touno - The last one has been sold now at Wheels so that dream is over.

[Renn Sport]

So what do you get with the standard bike? Or the base model?

It wasn't immediately clear from the Suzuki website.

The good news is that the RR or fancy pants model is still loads cheaper than the competition.

Edited by Renn Sport on Friday 10th February 14:09

[trickywoo]

Renn Sport said:

So what do you get with the standard bike? Or the base model?

Same engine and power but the RR has a bi-directional quickshifter, launch control and BFF forks vs BPF. Think otherwise they are the same.

[Moulder]

Too expensive for me.... (though obviously if I wanted to being a powerfully built director, etc., etc.)

I have a low mileage K6 which I would guess is worth around 5k. Each year it does maybe 2000 miles of not raining days. Cost to change to the outgoing model, 4-5k (which I was considering); cost to change to the new model 8-11k.

I can appreciate that it has more electronics, would be better on track, and I may get my pleasurable ride over quicker, but I am not overly fussed about any of that I am not yet ready for a non-sports bike.

Yours, disgruntled of Surrey.

[Renn Sport]

trickywoo said:

Renn Sport said:

So what do you get with the standard bike? Or the base model?

Same engine and power but the RR has a bi-directional quickshifter, launch control and BFF forks vs BPF. Think otherwise they are the same.

Hmm... I want the bi directional quick shifter but I am not too fussed about launch control or BFF's.

I'd probably end up with a Ohlins rear shock (predictable) and some K-tech internals for the forks anyway.

hmmnn...

Now wondering if the base model is looking semi-attractive!

200bhp!

[anonymous-user]

trickywoo said:

Shame they are all £16k+ now.

Or you can buy a K1 for £3k and it will still be more bike than most on here can handle. £16k for such a main stream superbike is nuts.

[Renn Sport]

Err... not really.

The difference between a 16 year old bike tech and the modern stuff is simply incredible. You really need to go ride some of the newer stuff to appreciate how good it is.

Bikes have come a long way and continue to do so.

[Timbo_S2]

Renn Sport said:

Hmm... I want the bi directional quick shifter but I am not too fussed about launch control or BFF's.

I'd probably end up with a Ohlins rear shock (predictable) and some K-tech internals for the forks anyway.

hmmnn...

Now wondering if the base model is looking semi-attractive!

200bhp!

My thinking too. Ohlins TTX Shock and R&T forks, and I bet you can buy the QS sensor and enable the settings in the ECU with a re-flash. Bingo - better bike, less money!

[J B L]

That's because you are all thinking about it in absolute value.

Had an advert on my FB wall last night from a Honda dealer selling you the new Fireblade SP (£19,125) for £119/month PCP with £750 deposti contribution. There was no mention of min deposit, mind.
Allegedly, you could have the standard GSXr for less than £100/month. Great deal if you are that way inclined.

That's how people think these days.

Go on the Tesla website and configure a car; it won't give you the full list price, just the monthly rental.

[obscene]

Timbo_S2 said:

Renn Sport said:

Hmm... I want the bi directional quick shifter but I am not too fussed about launch control or BFF's.

I'd probably end up with a Ohlins rear shock (predictable) and some K-tech internals for the forks anyway.

hmmnn...

Now wondering if the base model is looking semi-attractive!

200bhp!

My thinking too. Ohlins TTX Shock and R&T forks, and I bet you can buy the QS sensor and enable the settings in the ECU with a re-flash. Bingo - better bike, less money!

Being part of the suzuki fans, I have read you can pay a little extra for the QS option on the lower spec bike. However how true it is, I don't know!

[Broccers]

Moulder said:

Too expensive for me.... (though obviously if I wanted to being a powerfully built director, etc., etc.)

I have a low mileage K6 which I would guess is worth around 5k. Each year it does maybe 2000 miles of not raining days. Cost to change to the outgoing model, 4-5k (which I was considering); cost to change to the new model 8-11k.

I can appreciate that it has more electronics, would be better on track, and I may get my pleasurable ride over quicker, but I am not overly fussed about any of that I am not yet ready for a non-sports bike.

Yours, disgruntled of Surrey.

Ive a K7 with 4k on it - each year I see it rise in value mainly because its one of the last bikes you ride yourself without electoids to save your bacon.

Love the sound these make tho - awesome. Not 11 grands worth of awesome tho.

Edited by Broccers on Friday 10th February 16:49

[graeme4130]

I always wince a bit when they say it's now up there with the BMW and ZX10R's of this world, as I'm sure their R&D and marketing guys want people to think it's better.
If it's comparable, why drop it into a market that's already full of decent bikes. Why not go that little bit extra and make it better
It'll be interesting to see how they all compare properly once the new Blade is available for UK group tests too
I think the only thing that separates all these new bikes now is the ease of the user interface, and Honda appear to have nailed that with a simple up or down control for suspension, engine and electronics intervention on the new blade. All the others seems to have become so complicated (and ultimately capable) that getting a good setting between all the various parameters is beyond the reach of most riders

[trickywoo]

graeme4130 said:

I think the only thing that separates all these new bikes now is the ease of the user interface, and Honda appear to have nailed that with a simple up or down control for suspension, engine and electronics intervention on the new blade.

The SP (with the semi-active suspension) is £19k though and as others have said a base GSXR 1000 for £13k with an extra couple of £K for Ohlins / K Tech might be the smart choice. I'm not arguing with active suspension being superior (I have no experience) but there are lots of suspension specialists out there who will get you a set of track and road settings to your weight / style etc at not great expense.

Really looking forward to the round of group tests this year.

[mak]

wormus said:

£16k for such a main stream superbike is nuts.

16-20K is where its at right now for all the new superbikes . If you cant afford it ( like me) there's no need to be bitter, just suck it up and buy old stuff.

Eventually they will fall in value and allow the people in the second hand market to experience modern electronics albeit still at a high price.

After saying that I cant help but think the new 1000cc superbike is going to be a dying breed at these prices but I could be wrong. I am old enough to remember being able to buy a brand new grey import r1 for £7999

If you try and hold on to the past for to long I think you become a bitter and a miserable old fart

[anonymous-user]

Last new bike I bought was my Speed Triple back in 2001 and all bikes in the 1000 cc range were about £9k. Since then I've only bought second hand. Could afford new but given how little they are ridden, I prefer to buy used.

I'm looking for a nice standard K1 at the moment to keep at my house in the IOM. Ever since I saw DJ ride one back in 2001, I've wanted one.

[WaferThinHam]

mak said:

ronics albeit still at a high price.

After saying that I cant help but think the new 1000cc superbike is going to be a dying breed at these prices but I could be wrong. I am old enough to remember being able to buy a brand new grey import r1 for £7999

Everyone just PCPs now. Give it back after three years. Rinse and repeat. Especially now the OEMs are doing some much direct aftermarket business, you can even put a race pipe and rearsets into your monthly PCP deal. It becomes stupid not to sometimes.