2017 GSXR 1000R

[3DP]

WaferThinHam said:

mak said:

ronics albeit still at a high price.

After saying that I cant help but think the new 1000cc superbike is going to be a dying breed at these prices but I could be wrong. I am old enough to remember being able to buy a brand new grey import r1 for £7999

Everyone just PCPs now. Give it back after three years. Rinse and repeat. Especially now the OEMs are doing some much direct aftermarket business, you can even put a race pipe and rearsets into your monthly PCP deal. It becomes stupid not to sometimes.

Not everyone - some look at total cost of ownership, in which I've yet to see a PCP which is not stupid to actually do.

[Biker's Nemesis]

Not everyone does PCP or credit.

[Broccers]

Biker's Nemesis said:

Not everyone does PCP or credit.

Not everyone has a new bike.

If you want one and use it a decent amount rather than it being a toy then the numbers work - same with cars.

[Biker's Nemesis]

Broccers said:

Biker's Nemesis said:

Not everyone does PCP or credit.

Not everyone has a new bike.

If you want one and use it a decent amount rather than it being a toy then the numbers work - same with cars.

Yeah.....I know! 10/10 for missing my point.

[Broccers]

Sorry - what was your point?

[Biker's Nemesis]

Idiot

[Broccers]

Idiot was your point? Right.

[Richyboy]

I can't wait to see the group test now the Japanese are back.

[WaferThinHam]

3DP said:

Not everyone - some look at total cost of ownership, in which I've yet to see a PCP which is not stupid to actually do.

Very true, I'd say most people don't take this holistic approach. They just look at the monthly payment and away they go. :-)

[KTMboy]

Or you can buy one of these for £12k...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=...

Brand New Pre Registered - KTM 1290 Super Duke Special Edition - SE Version

[rapide]

wormus said:

Last new bike I bought was my Speed Triple back in 2001 and all bikes in the 1000 cc range were about £9k.

Sorry but £9,000 in 2001 is £13,650+ in 2017. All you lot whinging about pricing are just getting old and not keeping up with inflation. My Dad does this constantly (he's in his 60s), always banging on about cars/bikes he bought for a few hundred quid in the 70s/ 80s. That's thousands of pounds now you old codger! I'm mid 30s now and determined not to suffer the same fate

[trickywoo]

KTMboy said:

Or you can buy one of these for £12k...

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=...

Brand New Pre Registered - KTM 1290 Super Duke Special Edition - SE Version

As good as the KTM is if you are in the market for a sports bike it won't be a considerisation.

[Walter Sobchak]

Broccers said:

Ive a K7 with 4k on it - each year I see it rise in value mainly because its one of the last bikes you ride yourself without electoids to save your bacon.

Love the sound these make tho - awesome. Not 11 grands worth of awesome tho.

Edited by Broccers on Friday 10th February 16:49

The thing is they don't save your bacon, not really, traction control can help give you confidence to get on the power a bit earlier out of corners, most people aren't going to just pin the throttle open while lent over.
Electronic aids won't help if you misjudge a corner and go into it too fast, thinking that new bikes are almost uncrashable is a misconception.

[Broccers]

Did I say that?

I've a ktm smt and find the abs intrusive. Leaning on electronics coming out of a corner on a bike with traction control surely is safer than one with out it? Until it stops working....

[Walter Sobchak]

I've found traction control isn't noticeable on the road for the most part, there are some instances where it might well save you-manhole covers etc but in general fast road riding it wouldn't bother me wether a bike had it or not, it is helpful on a track day though.

[Ho Lee Kau]

Renn Sport said:

Are they really going to be 16+k??!!!

https://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/motorcycles/motorcycle...

Flipping heck!

That's ridiculous. I was thinking that this bike would be the cut price market leader!

So the Aprillia and R1 are looking pretty good in comparison.

Why would Suzuki charge much less then the rest? I kind of doubt that would increase sold units significantly.

[Ho Lee Kau]

trickywoo said:

Renn Sport said:

Are they really going to be 16+k??!!!

Thats the bells and whistles model with the fancy suspension and electronics.

The base model is £13K (still a lot of money). The marketing is quite clever because if you can find £13k you can find another £3k and unless you are looking to race a superstocker the extras you get look good for the money.

That being said what is the secondhand market going to be like for these new 1000s. Used to be you could get a new one for £10k and at 10 years old it was still worth £5k. What will these be selling for in 5 / 10 years?

In 5/10 years, if there is no war, the fossil fuel powered transportation will be very heavily taxed or banned. Anyway, you may not live that long.

[trickywoo]

Ho Lee Kau said:

In 5/10 years, if there is no war, the fossil fuel powered transportation will be very heavily taxed or banned. Anyway, you may not live that long.

I said 5 to 10 years not 510.

[Ho Lee Kau]

Renn Sport said:

So what do you get with the standard bike? Or the base model?

It wasn't immediately clear from the Suzuki website.

The good news is that the RR or fancy pants model is still loads cheaper than the competition.

Edited by Renn Sport on Friday 10th February 14:09

On the base one you get:

1. same electronics as on R
2. not the BFFork and BFShock (you get BPFork and standard shock)
3. not the quickshifter/blipper
4. not the motogp blue paint
5. not the white on black dash (instead it will be black on white)
6. not the led turn signals
7. not the led "eyebrows"

The frame and swingarm is black on both standard and R. Honda did it even worse, if you like polished frame and swingarm (I very much do) you HAVE to buy SP/SP2.

[obscene]

I think that's myself and a lot of others sold on the base model. Buy that, whack in Ktech suspension (other brands available!) and an HM Quickshifter and see if downshift blipping can be unlocked in the ecu not that I would personally be fussed about it. Quids in.