R1 stolen in broad daylight

R1 stolen in broad daylight

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Brummmie

5,284 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Gavia said:
Brummmie said:
The Kryptonite guy used to say "if man can make it man can break it".
Trackers are not dear now.
They're too easy to find on a bike though, there are only a few places to hide one.
You can get them to hide on a push bike now, so I'm sure you can stash one inside the guts of a bike somewhere, and they have to know to look for it first.

Andy XRV

3,845 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Gavia said:
Brummmie said:
The Kryptonite guy used to say "if man can make it man can break it".
Trackers are not dear now.
They're too easy to find on a bike though, there are only a few places to hide one.
Sadly there are loads of videos of bikes being nicked on FB and at no time have I ever seen the scum looking for or trying to disable a tracker. They nick them first and then just park them up and play the wait and see game. That's why there are so many found within the first few hours. Biketrac, although not the cheapest has an amazing find rate, look it up

Wedg1e

26,805 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Motorrad said:
What I'm saying is that the rational course of action would have been to run away. No idea why I didn't, I got a beating as a result of my idiocy.
I laid in wait thinking it was a bunch of kids that kept breaking into our cars. It wasn't: it was a guy of about my own age (about 30 at the time) who having early one evening broken into the g/f's Skoda, then propped up a lamp-post to see who would come running. The g/f came out and asked him if he'd seen anyone!
Later the same night I hid in the back of my Renault: when the Skoda's alarm went off I jumped out intending to drag some yoof home by his earhole only to find a druggie waving a big knife at me.
I've never been a runner so I had little choice but to take a swing, luckily after some playground fisticuffs he heard a siren (probably a passing ambulance on a nearby main road) and legged it. G/f came running out and told me it was the same bloke she'd spoken to earlier! Called the Police who drove round the estate and picked up a bunch of teenagers but not the right man. At no point did any of the Police officers say I did a silly thing.

There, plenty of ammo for the keyboard warriors. Have at it, I said before I'm no hero, but if I had to do it again I'd make sure I was carrying something longer than his knife.

Wedg1e

26,805 posts

266 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Fleegle said:
Keep it simple. More than one disc lock
As long as they were beefy enough to outlast the grinder battery...
I was looking at the Pan Euro tonight and I actually do think that a swingarm-based device could work though of course it'd need to be designed-in from the outset, you couldn't just go drilling holes in your banana-armer biggrin
Trouble is that any sort of lock is then drillable, but enough of the right sort of metal would still slow the process down. Even, as I mentioned earlier, decent steering locks would be a starting point. A daft quarter-inch pin made of brass doesn't, as we all know, stop anything. Seems odd that when bikes are riddled with high-tech design and engineering materials, a better lock hasn't been thought up.

The Moose

22,865 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I recon someone wealthy needs to buy a few tasty bikes, rig them with C4 (or other explosive) and then lay low watching them until they start to get nicked. As they do start to move off - BOOOOOOM - GTA style!

bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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The Moose said:
I recon someone wealthy needs to buy a few tasty bikes, rig them with C4 (or other explosive) and then lay low watching them until they start to get nicked. As they do start to move off - BOOOOOOM - GTA style!
Ahh, the 007 Esprit method of security from Your Eyes Only. Sounds like a great idea.

The Moose

22,865 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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bennyboysvuk said:
The Moose said:
I recon someone wealthy needs to buy a few tasty bikes, rig them with C4 (or other explosive) and then lay low watching them until they start to get nicked. As they do start to move off - BOOOOOOM - GTA style!
Ahh, the 007 Esprit method of security from Your Eyes Only. Sounds like a great idea.
If people keep getting blown the fk up, then the little toe rags may well stop...

immigrant

397 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
cut the low curved part off.. roll bike back, cut section from disk .... free bike!

Edited by SystemParanoia on Tuesday 21st March 12:39
You won't be able to roll the bike backward or forward even with the cut you describe. There is a pin which lodges in one of the disc holes.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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immigrant said:
SystemParanoia said:
cut the low curved part off.. roll bike back, cut section from disk .... free bike!

Edited by SystemParanoia on Tuesday 21st March 12:39
You won't be able to roll the bike backward or forward even with the cut you describe. There is a pin which lodges in one of the disc holes.
once youve cut the lower curved part, that pin isnt secured to anything and it can be rotated about 270 degrees... perfect to allow you to cut a chunk out of the disk.

This lock would work well fitted upside down on the rear brake of a bike with a single sided swing arm.

no way to get in there with a giant angle grinder.








Edited by SystemParanoia on Wednesday 22 March 12:57

immigrant

397 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Sorry, you're right, I concede. I didn't consider that it would then swing like a standard disc lock.

Still, I invested in one and it adds a time factor to the would-be liberators of my wealth.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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frown i didn't want to be

immigrant

397 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Off topic/ WTF would convert a Scrambler to single-sided? Weird...

Wl11ams

4 posts

86 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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SDarks said:
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2017/march/thie...

Scary video, london is a no go zone for me on the bike after watching stuff like that.
This was my R1 and was a replacement for a new MT-10 that was stolen in July last year. I have read many of these comments and agree with a fair few. I think it's disappointing that I can't ride my pride and joy in one day per week and park it outside my office (50 Berkeley St) without been criticized as being stupid because its of a high value (mostly financed BTW) Do we really live in a society whereby you can't put a disc lock on your bike and park it and not expect it to still be there? I had to suffer the embarrassment of being quizzed by investigators as if I was trying to do some sort of insurance fraud because it was a second bike stolen within a year.. Why can't the council widen the bays and put in clamps which secure the front and back tyres?. annoying thing is I would only every park the bike underground unless that bay was free because i naively thought nobody would steal it from there.. Anyway message is dont work hard and buy anything nice because you will be called stupid for using it.. new insurance quote 2k... frown

yes i would of had a go had I seen it happening and I would of helped any other fellow biker who was suffering the same predicament.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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On the other hand I saw a Ducati, 998 or similar, in a multistorey in High Wycombe with a notice on it saying that because it had been there a month the owner had to remove it or be charged storage. Don't think it even had a lock on it.

fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Wl11ams said:
.. new insurance quote 2k... frown

Nick, did you not recently hire a helicopter to fly up north for a dinner? hehe

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

119 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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So would I batter my bare fists against some thiefs helmeted face, while he sank his claw hammer into my bare skull....probably not, but you don't know until you're in that situation. I really hate this sort of thing, and I've got a proper temper which defies all logic.

I think the best course of action would be to knock over the bikes they're on, they're hardly going to run after you.

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Wl11ams said:
This was my R1 and was a replacement for a new MT-10 that was stolen in July last year. I have read many of these comments and agree with a fair few. I think it's disappointing that I can't ride my pride and joy in one day per week and park it outside my office (50 Berkeley St) without been criticized as being stupid because its of a high value (mostly financed BTW) Do we really live in a society whereby you can't put a disc lock on your bike and park it and not expect it to still be there? I had to suffer the embarrassment of being quizzed by investigators as if I was trying to do some sort of insurance fraud because it was a second bike stolen within a year.. Why can't the council widen the bays and put in clamps which secure the front and back tyres?. annoying thing is I would only every park the bike underground unless that bay was free because i naively thought nobody would steal it from there.. Anyway message is dont work hard and buy anything nice because you will be called stupid for using it.. new insurance quote 2k... frown

yes i would of had a go had I seen it happening and I would of helped any other fellow biker who was suffering the same predicament.
Sadly we do live in a society (London) where bike theft is rampant and you should know that given your experience with the MT-10.

I've bought plenty of nice things and use them a lot, but am cautious about where I'd leave it, I'd certainly avoid any city centre.

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Gavia said:
Sadly we do live in a society (London) where bike theft is rampant and you should know that given your experience with the MT-10.
And this doesn't extend to Bristol, Birmingham and Manchester??

Wake up man

Gavia

7,627 posts

92 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Fleegle said:
Gavia said:
Sadly we do live in a society (London) where bike theft is rampant and you should know that given your experience with the MT-10.
And this doesn't extend to Bristol, Birmingham and Manchester??

Wake up man
I've quoted the second bit of my comment that you deleted

Gavia said:
I've bought plenty of nice things and use them a lot, but am cautious about where I'd leave it, I'd certainly avoid any city centre.