R1 stolen in broad daylight
Discussion
Dog Star said:
I'm so worried about this mode of theft making the jump from London that I'm trying to think of a way of defeating the battery powered angle grinder mob.
Obviously a conventional disclock or chain and padlock - even the 19mm monsters (which are too heavy to carry anyway) are useless. I was thinking of some sort of system where a thick bar (doesn't have to be round) passes through the slots on both sides of the discs and is locked in the middle. It needs to be inaccessible to the angle grinder disc.
they will happily destroy a rotor to remove any device inhibiting removal of the bike, in the same way they will happily cut half a steering wheel off to get past a disclock etc. Obviously a conventional disclock or chain and padlock - even the 19mm monsters (which are too heavy to carry anyway) are useless. I was thinking of some sort of system where a thick bar (doesn't have to be round) passes through the slots on both sides of the discs and is locked in the middle. It needs to be inaccessible to the angle grinder disc.
BobSaunders said:
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Locks are a minor inconvenience to Mr Scum however many you fit or where you fit them.
I recon a good (albeit very inconvenient) solution would be to remove the front wheel spindle, you could slide in a thin plastic spindle behind just to keep the wheel attached.
Mr Scum wheels the bike away thinking 'that was easy', but soon after the thin plastic spindle gives way, the bike becomes uncontrolable and the pilot wobbles off under the wheels of a bus.
The bike may sustain some damage, but hopefully it had a soft landing on My Scums leg so it may not be too bad.
And when it plows into a pedestrian?I recon a good (albeit very inconvenient) solution would be to remove the front wheel spindle, you could slide in a thin plastic spindle behind just to keep the wheel attached.
Mr Scum wheels the bike away thinking 'that was easy', but soon after the thin plastic spindle gives way, the bike becomes uncontrolable and the pilot wobbles off under the wheels of a bus.
The bike may sustain some damage, but hopefully it had a soft landing on My Scums leg so it may not be too bad.
It may be considered a trap by CPS - whereby they will pursue you.
Or bike not in a mechanical fit state.
It's just an idea.
Can you imagine trying to move a big bike without a front wheel spindle...impossible.
Other than the hassle of removing the bolt and metal spindle (Invent a quick release nut maybe?), I'm struggling to think of a better solution?
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
BobSaunders said:
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Locks are a minor inconvenience to Mr Scum however many you fit or where you fit them.
I recon a good (albeit very inconvenient) solution would be to remove the front wheel spindle, you could slide in a thin plastic spindle behind just to keep the wheel attached.
Mr Scum wheels the bike away thinking 'that was easy', but soon after the thin plastic spindle gives way, the bike becomes uncontrolable and the pilot wobbles off under the wheels of a bus.
The bike may sustain some damage, but hopefully it had a soft landing on My Scums leg so it may not be too bad.
And when it plows into a pedestrian?I recon a good (albeit very inconvenient) solution would be to remove the front wheel spindle, you could slide in a thin plastic spindle behind just to keep the wheel attached.
Mr Scum wheels the bike away thinking 'that was easy', but soon after the thin plastic spindle gives way, the bike becomes uncontrolable and the pilot wobbles off under the wheels of a bus.
The bike may sustain some damage, but hopefully it had a soft landing on My Scums leg so it may not be too bad.
It may be considered a trap by CPS - whereby they will pursue you.
Or bike not in a mechanical fit state.
It's just an idea.
Can you imagine trying to move a big bike without a front wheel spindle...impossible.
Other than the hassle of removing the bolt and metal spindle (Invent a quick release nut maybe?), I'm struggling to think of a better solution?
if it doesn't, the line lock also prevents wheel removal.
the line lock also backs up the disk lock if it gets cut off.
and if after all that, they still get it rolling... the spindle will break on the first speed-bump/pothole they come across
All this talk of 'I'd attack them' is a load of b
ks. You don't know what you'd do until you were in the situation.
I'd like to think I'd look at the relative merits of acting in comparison to the risk and behave accordingly but that's not how things happen.
Years ago some mask wearing scumbags on a 'taxation' mission smashed the door of the student house I lived in, ran into the house believing it was full of drugs and money (previous occupants). My first response on hearing the screaming was to run downstairs and attack them. I didn't stop to think about what I was doing and just acted. What I should have done is just jumped out of my bedroom window and legged it. As it was I sustained a fair bit of damage from being whacked with some sort of tool and all for nothing. They left empty handed and nobody was hurt other than me, I also had a fairly long period of worrying about if I'd caught something off the one whose nose I tried to amputate with my teeth.
ks. You don't know what you'd do until you were in the situation. I'd like to think I'd look at the relative merits of acting in comparison to the risk and behave accordingly but that's not how things happen.
Years ago some mask wearing scumbags on a 'taxation' mission smashed the door of the student house I lived in, ran into the house believing it was full of drugs and money (previous occupants). My first response on hearing the screaming was to run downstairs and attack them. I didn't stop to think about what I was doing and just acted. What I should have done is just jumped out of my bedroom window and legged it. As it was I sustained a fair bit of damage from being whacked with some sort of tool and all for nothing. They left empty handed and nobody was hurt other than me, I also had a fairly long period of worrying about if I'd caught something off the one whose nose I tried to amputate with my teeth.
Motorrad said:
All this talk of 'I'd attack them' is a load of bks. You don't know what you'd do until you were in the situation.
I'd like to think I'd look at the relative merits of acting in comparison to the risk and behave accordingly but that's not how things happen.
Years ago some mask wearing scumbags on a 'taxation' mission smashed the door of the student house I lived in, ran into the house believing it was full of drugs and money (previous occupants). My first response on hearing the screaming was to run downstairs and attack them. I didn't stop to think about what I was doing and just acted. What I should have done is just jumped out of my bedroom window and legged it. As it was I sustained a fair bit of damage from being whacked with some sort of tool and all for nothing. They left empty handed and nobody was hurt other than me, I also had a fairly long period of worrying about if I'd caught something off the one whose nose I tried to amputate with my teeth.
So one one hand anyone that says they would have a go is full of sks. You don't know what you'd do until you were in the situation. I'd like to think I'd look at the relative merits of acting in comparison to the risk and behave accordingly but that's not how things happen.
Years ago some mask wearing scumbags on a 'taxation' mission smashed the door of the student house I lived in, ran into the house believing it was full of drugs and money (previous occupants). My first response on hearing the screaming was to run downstairs and attack them. I didn't stop to think about what I was doing and just acted. What I should have done is just jumped out of my bedroom window and legged it. As it was I sustained a fair bit of damage from being whacked with some sort of tool and all for nothing. They left empty handed and nobody was hurt other than me, I also had a fairly long period of worrying about if I'd caught something off the one whose nose I tried to amputate with my teeth.
t yet you in the same post tell us about biting someone nose.Please don't attack me for pointing that out. I'm rather found of my nose.
Someone pass the irony board, I have too straighten something out.
Biker's Nemesis said:
So one one hand anyone that says they would have a go is full of st yet you in the same post tell us about biting someone nose.
Please don't attack me for pointing that out. I'm rather found of my nose.
Someone pass the irony board, I have too straighten something out.
What I'm saying is that the rational course of action would have been to run away. No idea why I didn't, I got a beating as a result of my idiocy. The point is you don't know what you'd do until it happens so any comment on 'taking them down' is so much hot air.t yet you in the same post tell us about biting someone nose.Please don't attack me for pointing that out. I'm rather found of my nose.
Someone pass the irony board, I have too straighten something out.
I'm firmly in the don't tackle them camp BTW but until it happens in front of me who knows?
Anybody know if the Roadlok is any good?
https://www.roadlokinternational.com/collections/p...
Taken from KTM website where they are sold as an optional extra....
Patented RoadLoK technology provides you with the most effective and elegant option for protecting your KTM from theft.
All the benefits at a glance:
LOCK BODY MACHINED FROM HIGH-GRADE ALUMINUM
PREMIUM QUALITY, ORANGE ANODIZED SURFACE FINISH
BOLTED DIRECTLY TO THE BRAKE CALIPER
HIGH-STRENGTH STEEL PIN SLIDES DIRECTLY INTO THE HOLES IN THE BRAKE DISC
NO VEHICLE MOVEMENT POSSIBLE WHEN LOCKED
RISK OF A FALL WHEN RIDING OFF, HAVING FORGOTTEN TO REMOVE THE LOCK, IS REDUCED TO A MINIMUM
NO DISMANTLING POSSIBLE WHEN LOCKED
https://www.roadlokinternational.com/collections/p...
Taken from KTM website where they are sold as an optional extra....
Patented RoadLoK technology provides you with the most effective and elegant option for protecting your KTM from theft.
All the benefits at a glance:
LOCK BODY MACHINED FROM HIGH-GRADE ALUMINUM
PREMIUM QUALITY, ORANGE ANODIZED SURFACE FINISH
BOLTED DIRECTLY TO THE BRAKE CALIPER
HIGH-STRENGTH STEEL PIN SLIDES DIRECTLY INTO THE HOLES IN THE BRAKE DISC
NO VEHICLE MOVEMENT POSSIBLE WHEN LOCKED
RISK OF A FALL WHEN RIDING OFF, HAVING FORGOTTEN TO REMOVE THE LOCK, IS REDUCED TO A MINIMUM
NO DISMANTLING POSSIBLE WHEN LOCKED
Motorrad said:
What I'm saying is that the rational course of action would have been to run away. No idea why I didn't, I got a beating as a result of my idiocy. The point is you don't know what you'd do until it happens so any comment on 'taking them down' is so much hot air.
I'm firmly in the don't tackle them camp BTW but until it happens in front of me who knows?
Fair enoughI'm firmly in the don't tackle them camp BTW but until it happens in front of me who knows?
Back in 1983 my GT 250 was stolen outside a friends house, he was fixing a wiring fault, he left the bike alone for 10 minutes and when came back out it was gone.
A while later I found out names so rang the police, the invistgating officer (this was when the police investagated stolen vehicles) went and paid him a visit but found nothing.
The bike wasn't insured so I took myself up to where he lived and set about him when I saw someone else run and take a swing. I ended up with a gash along my cheek from a Stanley blade or something similar attaced to a piece of wood. Things got really messy for a few years.
Sometime during 1986 I bumped into one of them in a toilet and got my revenge.
Also in 1985 I got banned for all sorts of crap on my 350 LC, my mother made me bring it home and she chained it up around the back of the house and his the keys, I wasn't allowed to keep it in the garage, that also wasn't insured and ended up having the clocks, all bodywork and carbs stolen off it one evening.
So when I found out that my RD 500 was going to maybe go the same way ( it was insured) I took the threat badly.
I still to this day would not think straight and react badly if it happened to me regardless if I was there or not.. And no, I'm no tough guy or hard nut.
Biker's Nemesis/ said:
Back in 1983...
Ok stop right there...Biker's Nemesis/ said:
I still to this day would not think straight and react badly if it happened to me regardless if I was there or not.. And no, I'm no tough guy or hard nut.
So why are we hearing about it? There is a pattern developing. I know that this is probably forum suicide as your quite a revered personality in these here parts with a number of 'friends''fans' or 'sycophants' delete as appropriate. So I guess I'll expect some stick but come on!
REALLY!?
Renn Sport said:
Biker's Nemesis/ said:
Back in 1983...
Ok stop right there...Biker's Nemesis/ said:
I still to this day would not think straight and react badly if it happened to me regardless if I was there or not.. And no, I'm no tough guy or hard nut.
So why are we hearing about it? There is a pattern developing. I know that this is probably forum suicide as your quite a revered personality in these here parts with a number of 'friends''fans' or 'sycophants' delete as appropriate. So I guess I'll expect some stick but come on!
REALLY!?
I really don't care what you or others think.
Is that good enough for you?
scorcher said:
Sounds like a lot of cutting! Obviously going to be more time consuming than just a single cut to a disclock.
I have one on my BMW. That what I'm hoping. It'll take more effort to remoce than a standard disk lock. Therefore they'll target something else instead of mine. Not that I would ever park it in Central London!
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