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& GM, then it's good enough 
Congratulations on the new bike!
Fireblade was always one of the best, if not the best, street bikes.
That is why I will keep my 954RR as long as possible.
Still...
I was not overly impressed by SP that I sat on at an exhibition. It's a nice bike, but I did not like the soft plastic covers of gas tank (felt flimsy and cheap) and the little plastic covers on the frame (should have been metal).
Aprilia RSV4RF felt more solid all over and its polished frame and swingarm looked more expensive than those on SP, even though SP was more expensive in terms of price.
Also the headlights of SP, reminds a lot of Ducati. Should have been more of 2006-2007 Fireblade style, imho.
Finally, Fireblade has same frame and same engine as before, dropped 10kg just because of removal of c-abs and not something really new, only added electronic rider aids. Now look at GSXR1000 - new frame, new engine, new technologies. And it is stronger, and cheaper, and the exhaust can can be easily replaced dropping kilos of weight. THAT bike is really exciting!
Fireblade was always one of the best, if not the best, street bikes.
That is why I will keep my 954RR as long as possible.
Still...
I was not overly impressed by SP that I sat on at an exhibition. It's a nice bike, but I did not like the soft plastic covers of gas tank (felt flimsy and cheap) and the little plastic covers on the frame (should have been metal).
Aprilia RSV4RF felt more solid all over and its polished frame and swingarm looked more expensive than those on SP, even though SP was more expensive in terms of price.
Also the headlights of SP, reminds a lot of Ducati. Should have been more of 2006-2007 Fireblade style, imho.
Finally, Fireblade has same frame and same engine as before, dropped 10kg just because of removal of c-abs and not something really new, only added electronic rider aids. Now look at GSXR1000 - new frame, new engine, new technologies. And it is stronger, and cheaper, and the exhaust can can be easily replaced dropping kilos of weight. THAT bike is really exciting!
Ho Lee Kau said:
Yes, you are wrong.
No , you are wrong.https://tinyurl.com/lhmush8
Edited by jjones on Monday 20th March 20:17
Shadow R1 said:
That bloke from Louth. 
His mate has just got one on the scales 8 litres of fuel onboard 189kg.
That's in road spec with lights mirrors etc, as ridden in.
It's going to be turned straight into a race bike, but thought Rawwr might be interested.
◾• 429lb (195kg) wet weightHis mate has just got one on the scales 8 litres of fuel onboard 189kg.
That's in road spec with lights mirrors etc, as ridden in.
It's going to be turned straight into a race bike, but thought Rawwr might be interested.
◾• Adjusted rigidity balance for the frame
◾• Stiffer swingarm
◾• Lighter subframe
◾• Titanium fuel tank
◾• Brembo four-piston radial mount monobloc brake calipers
◾• Redesigned wheels
◾• Minimal and aggressively styled bodywork
jjones said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
Yes, you are wrong.
No , you are wrong.https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...
ked.Biker's Nemesis said:
Your link is fked.
Not sure why, made it a tinyurl link and it seems to work now ked.https://tinyurl.com/lhmush8
jjones said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
Yes, you are wrong.
No , you are wrong.https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...
Chassis - new electronic suspension, thinner frame walls. Same frame = check.
Now, GSXR. NEW engine, NEW frame, NEW suspension, MotoGP technology. 200hp. In the latest comparisons the old GSXR1000 still comes out in top three as the comfortable street bike. GSXR1000R cheaper than SP.
I like Fireblade and had 2 of them, still have one, and two CBR600 as well. Best looking Fireblade to me - 2006-2007 version.
But I am not a fanboy.
Ho Lee Kau said:
Engine upgraded with higher specification materials = same engine, lighter parts. 11hp extra. Same engine = check.
Chassis - new electronic suspension, thinner frame walls. Same frame = check.
Different != same. Chassis - new electronic suspension, thinner frame walls. Same frame = check.
You said "Finally, Fireblade has same frame and same engine as before, dropped 10kg just because of removal of c-abs and not something really new"
But that clearly isn't the case.
jjones said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
Engine upgraded with higher specification materials = same engine, lighter parts. 11hp extra. Same engine = check.
Chassis - new electronic suspension, thinner frame walls. Same frame = check.
Different != same. Chassis - new electronic suspension, thinner frame walls. Same frame = check.
You said "Finally, Fireblade has same frame and same engine as before, dropped 10kg just because of removal of c-abs and not something really new"
But that clearly isn't the case.
R1 last year, GSXR1000 this year - these are new from ground up.
RSV4RF - feels solid, looks better than SP, cheaper than SP, and has V4.
R1M is more expensive than SP but looks...not good.
GSXR1000 is cheaper than SP, looks not bad at all (I only saw the fabulous motogp blue, but I actually prefer the black with blue wheels and fork).
RSV4RF - marvelous, not sure about quality.
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