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spareparts said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
Yep, just ignorant.... you are hilarious 
I see you just don't like FACTS that Honda itself puts out.
Quit your moaning. For the past 9 years, the Blade has consistently had the best and most usable superbike chassis for the road. Plenty of experienced riderst will attest that it has a superlative chassis that doesn't need electronics to keep it in check. We get that you don't like the Blade, but don't piss on Rawwr's chips. The BladeSP is a fine machine, and the FACT is that professional journos and bike testers rated it #1 and better than your beloved Gixxer. In FACT, they rated the S1000RR and 1299s better too I see you just don't like FACTS that Honda itself puts out.
Maybe you like alt-facts? 
Whether it has a better chassis than the RSV4, R1, 1299S, I'm not so sure, but it's certainly up there, which is a big step for Honda.
It feels a lot smaller than the others, and is very easy to ride fast and get a lot of out
If that ease of use would make it less rewarding in the long term, I just don't know, but I certainly enjoyed riding it
I reckon Rawrr's going to have a blast on his. Hope you have many happy miles and keep the pics coming
Biker's Nemesis said:
Sweet as a nut.
I see you have the same problem as me, a shared drive, you have a full house of Chav there, a modern superbike and a turbocharged Ford.
Welcome to the club.
Yeah, shared with three houses but we all get on well so we just dump our cars wherever we like. Focus is currently on my neighbour's drive I see you have the same problem as me, a shared drive, you have a full house of Chav there, a modern superbike and a turbocharged Ford.
Welcome to the club.
spareparts said:
HLK,
You portray your opinions as 'facts' and cross-post your same biased views across multiple threads. You voice those opinions of the latest superbikes against a baseline reference of a 15 year old bike: as good as the 954 was, it has been surpassed since then and is not a good baseline when comparing the very subtle nuances between the latest 2017 superbikes. You claim the current R1 is 'New and Different from Japan'. Well it isn't, and it was launched in 2015. You seem to get excited about your CBR600, but as good as it was, it really doesn't even merit discussion in this comparison. And importantly, your voiced opinion that the new BladeSP is a 'warmed up yesterday's dinner' is quite distasteful when the OP is excited about collecting his new BladeSP. So all-in-all, your strong opinions (based on approximately 3 years riding mostly CBRs if I'm not mistaken) and derisory opinion of the OP's new BladeSP really aren't that pleasant. It is sad you sully the OP's thread of testing, buying, then collecting his new bike with your opinionated drivel, and I suggest 'winding your neck in' as a good friend likes to say.
I say what I damn please, thank you very much.You portray your opinions as 'facts' and cross-post your same biased views across multiple threads. You voice those opinions of the latest superbikes against a baseline reference of a 15 year old bike: as good as the 954 was, it has been surpassed since then and is not a good baseline when comparing the very subtle nuances between the latest 2017 superbikes. You claim the current R1 is 'New and Different from Japan'. Well it isn't, and it was launched in 2015. You seem to get excited about your CBR600, but as good as it was, it really doesn't even merit discussion in this comparison. And importantly, your voiced opinion that the new BladeSP is a 'warmed up yesterday's dinner' is quite distasteful when the OP is excited about collecting his new BladeSP. So all-in-all, your strong opinions (based on approximately 3 years riding mostly CBRs if I'm not mistaken) and derisory opinion of the OP's new BladeSP really aren't that pleasant. It is sad you sully the OP's thread of testing, buying, then collecting his new bike with your opinionated drivel, and I suggest 'winding your neck in' as a good friend likes to say.
I told you the facts, you told me something about my riding Hondas and comparing something to something.
Facts were facts, comparing was personal opinion.
What your problem is - I don't know. Suggesting to stop talking on a forum, you gotta be kidding, right? You can leave your politburo stuff to yourself.
t all over it and cringe when you apply the 1st bucket of water and a sponge to the thing Ho Lee Kau said:
spareparts said:
HLK,
You portray your opinions as 'facts' and cross-post your same biased views across multiple threads. You voice those opinions of the latest superbikes against a baseline reference of a 15 year old bike: as good as the 954 was, it has been surpassed since then and is not a good baseline when comparing the very subtle nuances between the latest 2017 superbikes. You claim the current R1 is 'New and Different from Japan'. Well it isn't, and it was launched in 2015. You seem to get excited about your CBR600, but as good as it was, it really doesn't even merit discussion in this comparison. And importantly, your voiced opinion that the new BladeSP is a 'warmed up yesterday's dinner' is quite distasteful when the OP is excited about collecting his new BladeSP. So all-in-all, your strong opinions (based on approximately 3 years riding mostly CBRs if I'm not mistaken) and derisory opinion of the OP's new BladeSP really aren't that pleasant. It is sad you sully the OP's thread of testing, buying, then collecting his new bike with your opinionated drivel, and I suggest 'winding your neck in' as a good friend likes to say.
I say what I damn please, thank you very much.You portray your opinions as 'facts' and cross-post your same biased views across multiple threads. You voice those opinions of the latest superbikes against a baseline reference of a 15 year old bike: as good as the 954 was, it has been surpassed since then and is not a good baseline when comparing the very subtle nuances between the latest 2017 superbikes. You claim the current R1 is 'New and Different from Japan'. Well it isn't, and it was launched in 2015. You seem to get excited about your CBR600, but as good as it was, it really doesn't even merit discussion in this comparison. And importantly, your voiced opinion that the new BladeSP is a 'warmed up yesterday's dinner' is quite distasteful when the OP is excited about collecting his new BladeSP. So all-in-all, your strong opinions (based on approximately 3 years riding mostly CBRs if I'm not mistaken) and derisory opinion of the OP's new BladeSP really aren't that pleasant. It is sad you sully the OP's thread of testing, buying, then collecting his new bike with your opinionated drivel, and I suggest 'winding your neck in' as a good friend likes to say.
I told you the facts, you told me something about my riding Hondas and comparing something to something.
Facts were facts, comparing was personal opinion.
What your problem is - I don't know. Suggesting to stop talking on a forum, you gotta be kidding, right? You can leave your politburo stuff to yourself.
Everyone wants something different from a bike and everybody enjoys bikes at different levels
You have something you like about a bike, and a certain level that you ride at
If something appears the best to you, it might not to someone else and vice Versa
Sorry, been too busy riding it
Had a decent morning with it, pushed it a bit harder and it really is a wonderful thing. Using the roads I know inside-out, the difference is significant. All those little dinks, bumps and imperfections in the road where I'd been perhaps overly cautious on the previous Fireblade were just gone and I was able to get on the power a lot sooner than before as well as brake a hell of a lot later, letting the auto-blipper and engine braking take the strain of it, whilst the Ohlins kept everything balanced and in-line. Just that transition between hard braking and getting back on the power is all smoothed out and inspires a lot of confidence.
Power is a pretty decent step-up over the last bike and really noticeable over 6krpm. The previous bike had a perfectly smooth delivery but, relative to the new one, it lacked the upper-end punch.
The new dash is brilliant once you've configured it to the black background. It's really clear, even in direct sunlight. Changing the settings is nicely intuitive where, on the one hand, you can flick between the 'easy mode' settings quickly but if you want to fine tune stuff, you could spend a significant amount of time pissing about with the Ohlins settings.
Now obviously I'm not a great rider by any measure and I doubt I'll ever use half of its true performance but it IS an enjoyable, smooth ride which doesn't make you poo yourself every two minutes. It's very easy to ride and, more importantly, very easy to ride fast. There are obviously quicker and more visceral bikes but I'd be willing to stake important parts of my anatomy that more people could use more of the SP's performance than they could of the Panigale's (for example) performance.
Even on day 2, I know that this bike is a keeper and that's the first bike I've had where I've felt like that. It may not be 'new' but f*ck, Honda have refined it now to near perfection.
Had a decent morning with it, pushed it a bit harder and it really is a wonderful thing. Using the roads I know inside-out, the difference is significant. All those little dinks, bumps and imperfections in the road where I'd been perhaps overly cautious on the previous Fireblade were just gone and I was able to get on the power a lot sooner than before as well as brake a hell of a lot later, letting the auto-blipper and engine braking take the strain of it, whilst the Ohlins kept everything balanced and in-line. Just that transition between hard braking and getting back on the power is all smoothed out and inspires a lot of confidence.
Power is a pretty decent step-up over the last bike and really noticeable over 6krpm. The previous bike had a perfectly smooth delivery but, relative to the new one, it lacked the upper-end punch.
The new dash is brilliant once you've configured it to the black background. It's really clear, even in direct sunlight. Changing the settings is nicely intuitive where, on the one hand, you can flick between the 'easy mode' settings quickly but if you want to fine tune stuff, you could spend a significant amount of time pissing about with the Ohlins settings.
Now obviously I'm not a great rider by any measure and I doubt I'll ever use half of its true performance but it IS an enjoyable, smooth ride which doesn't make you poo yourself every two minutes. It's very easy to ride and, more importantly, very easy to ride fast. There are obviously quicker and more visceral bikes but I'd be willing to stake important parts of my anatomy that more people could use more of the SP's performance than they could of the Panigale's (for example) performance.
Even on day 2, I know that this bike is a keeper and that's the first bike I've had where I've felt like that. It may not be 'new' but f*ck, Honda have refined it now to near perfection.
Rawwr said:
Sorry, been too busy riding it
Had a decent morning with it, pushed it a bit harder and it really is a wonderful thing. Using the roads I know inside-out, the difference is significant. All those little dinks, bumps and imperfections in the road where I'd been perhaps overly cautious on the previous Fireblade were just gone and I was able to get on the power a lot sooner than before as well as brake a hell of a lot later, letting the auto-blipper and engine braking take the strain of it, whilst the Ohlins kept everything balanced and in-line. Just that transition between hard braking and getting back on the power is all smoothed out and inspires a lot of confidence.
Power is a pretty decent step-up over the last bike and really noticeable over 6krpm. The previous bike had a perfectly smooth delivery but, relative to the new one, it lacked the upper-end punch.
The new dash is brilliant once you've configured it to the black background. It's really clear, even in direct sunlight. Changing the settings is nicely intuitive where, on the one hand, you can flick between the 'easy mode' settings quickly but if you want to fine tune stuff, you could spend a significant amount of time pissing about with the Ohlins settings.
Now obviously I'm not a great rider by any measure and I doubt I'll ever use half of its true performance but it IS an enjoyable, smooth ride which doesn't make you poo yourself every two minutes. It's very easy to ride and, more importantly, very easy to ride fast. There are obviously quicker and more visceral bikes but I'd be willing to stake important parts of my anatomy that more people could use more of the SP's performance than they could of the Panigale's (for example) performance.
Even on day 2, I know that this bike is a keeper and that's the first bike I've had where I've felt like that. It may not be 'new' but f*ck, Honda have refined it now to near perfection.
Is it possible to turn the electronic suspension off to see the difference?Had a decent morning with it, pushed it a bit harder and it really is a wonderful thing. Using the roads I know inside-out, the difference is significant. All those little dinks, bumps and imperfections in the road where I'd been perhaps overly cautious on the previous Fireblade were just gone and I was able to get on the power a lot sooner than before as well as brake a hell of a lot later, letting the auto-blipper and engine braking take the strain of it, whilst the Ohlins kept everything balanced and in-line. Just that transition between hard braking and getting back on the power is all smoothed out and inspires a lot of confidence.
Power is a pretty decent step-up over the last bike and really noticeable over 6krpm. The previous bike had a perfectly smooth delivery but, relative to the new one, it lacked the upper-end punch.
The new dash is brilliant once you've configured it to the black background. It's really clear, even in direct sunlight. Changing the settings is nicely intuitive where, on the one hand, you can flick between the 'easy mode' settings quickly but if you want to fine tune stuff, you could spend a significant amount of time pissing about with the Ohlins settings.
Now obviously I'm not a great rider by any measure and I doubt I'll ever use half of its true performance but it IS an enjoyable, smooth ride which doesn't make you poo yourself every two minutes. It's very easy to ride and, more importantly, very easy to ride fast. There are obviously quicker and more visceral bikes but I'd be willing to stake important parts of my anatomy that more people could use more of the SP's performance than they could of the Panigale's (for example) performance.
Even on day 2, I know that this bike is a keeper and that's the first bike I've had where I've felt like that. It may not be 'new' but f*ck, Honda have refined it now to near perfection.
Rawwr said:
You can fix the settings so that it's not active but meh, who has time for that?
You do.I have a feeling that it's almost inevitable that the GSXRR that I have on order will get electronic suspension along with the ZX10 at its first update because it'll affect sales otherwise.. I'd like to know whether that actually matters.
Rawwr said:
For road riding, I suspect that 90% of the time you'll never notice it doing anything or rather *I* won't notice it. It's going to vary from rider to rider against their ability and their expectations of the system.
I would think you are exactly the kind of rider that will notice the difference, much as I would be. And the road is exactly where that difference should be easiest to detect and at its most beneficial if it works.Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff