S1000rr or 848 evo
Discussion
rapide said:
As a current 848 owner I don't think it's nonsense at all. Valves every 7500miles, belts every 15000 (or two years). If you insist on Ducati serving, some dealers are still willing to take their customers eyes out. But many are not, Ducati Glasgow and Preston for example both quoted me £500 max for a valve and belt service. As it is I went to my trusted local guy who did vales and belts for £350. A little more than a Honda maybe, but not by much. The 2007+ Ducati's are not hard bikes to work on, it's unfortunate that some of the specialists seem to set their pricing on what they can get away with, based on a tired perception of a complex premium brand. To be fair some of the precious Ducati owners don't help the situation swallowing this BS.
The valve clearances on an inline 4 need doing at 15000+ and they don't have belts. As I'd owned the 848 from new I fell for the old "Ducati dealer history for resale" line but learned the truth was you drop the bike off they get the 17 year old apprentice on it. Luckily I sold the bike before any major work was needed. I service all my own vehicles and even taking a side panel off on the Duacti was a pain in the arse with different size and fitment fixings. On my 5pw R1 its mostly 1/4 turn Allen fixings and could you imagine trying to sell a 7500-14000 mile Ducati saying I'd done the work myself? I bought the R1 to commute on but the uncomfortable and harsher 848 sat there unused so was sold.
I rode a mates 2015 S1000RR at the weekend and it's a lovely bike and very capable. The regular IL4 engine was a bit too smooth (and therefore a bit uninspiring) for my liking. It didn't seem to corner at deftly as my 2015 R1 either. The brakes were truly sensational though. I've no idea if the previous owner had upgraded them but I tapped them to slot into a gap and thought I was going to flip the thing. Scary braking power.
If you're wanting something special I'd go for the 848 over the S1k, but echo the recommendation for the RSV4, wonderful bike. If your budget will stretch then I'd also recommend test riding a 2015> R1, the crossplane engine is way more characterful than a regular IL4, especially with a decent can and ECU flash.
If you're wanting something special I'd go for the 848 over the S1k, but echo the recommendation for the RSV4, wonderful bike. If your budget will stretch then I'd also recommend test riding a 2015> R1, the crossplane engine is way more characterful than a regular IL4, especially with a decent can and ECU flash.
sc0tt said:
Ducati appears to be off the cards but the prices of the s1000rr are a lot stronger than they were over winter it seems 
I have a date with a suzuki garage saturday morning as a left field choice.
There are no bad sports bikes out there mate , not of the current crop, mainstream offerings, and you're buying a bike , not buying into a lifestyle because of one label or another , as some would contend .I have a date with a suzuki garage saturday morning as a left field choice.
Get one bought pronto .
hebegb said:
sc0tt said:
Ducati appears to be off the cards but the prices of the s1000rr are a lot stronger than they were over winter it seems
I have a date with a suzuki garage saturday morning as a left field choice.
There are no bad sports bikes out there mate , not of the current crop, mainstream offerings, and you're buying a bike , not buying into a lifestyle because of one label or another , as some would contend .I have a date with a suzuki garage saturday morning as a left field choice.
Get one bought pronto .
Hence the must look pretty and not depreciate like a stone.
I went from S1000RR to a 1198s and have never looked back. Forget the 848, get a 1198 and enjoy
2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on Flickr
2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on FlickrAdamLoewy said:
I went from S1000RR to a 1198s and have never looked back. Forget the 848, get a 1198 and enjoy
2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on Flickr
Show me a pic of your 1000rr though please?2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on FlickrI recall it was blue.
sc0tt said:
Show me a pic of your 1000rr though please?
I recall it was blue.
It certainly was, smurf blue.I recall it was blue.
BMW S1000rr by Adam Loewy, on FlickrAnd for comparison at the 'Ring.
BMW S1000rr Nurburgring by Adam Loewy, on Flickr
Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on FlickrR1 Dave said:
I rode a mates 2015 S1000RR at the weekend and it's a lovely bike and very capable. The regular IL4 engine was a bit too smooth (and therefore a bit uninspiring) for my liking. It didn't seem to corner at deftly as my 2015 R1 either. The brakes were truly sensational though. I've no idea if the previous owner had upgraded them but I tapped them to slot into a gap and thought I was going to flip the thing. Scary braking power.
If you're wanting something special I'd go for the 848 over the S1k, but echo the recommendation for the RSV4, wonderful bike. If your budget will stretch then I'd also recommend test riding a 2015> R1, the crossplane engine is way more characterful than a regular IL4, especially with a decent can and ECU flash.
But throttle response on R1 is really crap. The power delivery is also very spiky, nothing-nothing, then after 7k BOOM!If you're wanting something special I'd go for the 848 over the S1k, but echo the recommendation for the RSV4, wonderful bike. If your budget will stretch then I'd also recommend test riding a 2015> R1, the crossplane engine is way more characterful than a regular IL4, especially with a decent can and ECU flash.
Like Yamaha said, the R1 is build for the track duty first and foremost, and if you want to take it on the street - you have to deal with its deficiencies.
It's great for track, probably the best, but for the street there are better bikes. RSV4 for example, plus it connects better on the emotional level.
S1000RR is great street bike, roomy, smooth, great brakes, heated grips.
sc0tt said:
hebegb said:
Well ?
You chosen one yet Scott ?
A shame to let this fizzle out here ....
Ducati appears to be off the cards but the prices of the s1000rr are a lot stronger than they were over winter it seems You chosen one yet Scott ?
A shame to let this fizzle out here ....
I have a date with a suzuki garage saturday morning as a left field choice.
AdamLoewy said:
I went from S1000RR to a 1198s and have never looked back. Forget the 848, get a 1198 and enjoy
2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on Flickr
That bike is beautiful, I played with the idea itself (I prefer these bikes than the 1299-style no-frame no-exhaust-under-seat ones). But for my Ducati is pita, excessive heat, heavy clutch, disgusting engine characteristics below 4000, (too) loud all the time.2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on FlickrTell me, why do you say "you've never looked back". What was so bad on S1000RR that was so good on 1198, vice versa? I am very curious.
AdamLoewy said:
Want, I'm sure you are on my flickr followers list.Ho Lee Kau said:
That bike is beautiful, I played with the idea itself (I prefer these bikes than the 1299-style no-frame no-exhaust-under-seat ones). But for my Ducati is pita, excessive heat, heavy clutch, disgusting engine characteristics below 4000, (too) loud all the time.
Tell me, why do you say "you've never looked back". What was so bad on S1000RR that was so good on 1198, vice versa? I am very curious.
Its an event. I like loud v-twins, the handling reminds me of my old RS125, it loves being over on its ear whereas I never gelled with the handling of the S1K and didn't have the confidence on it that I do with the 1198.Tell me, why do you say "you've never looked back". What was so bad on S1000RR that was so good on 1198, vice versa? I am very curious.
The 1198s engine is a monster, if it had the top end rush of a 1299, I'd be a very happy man. The warp speed of the S1K top end is awesome. However for me, the 1198s engine is more awesome, more of the time as I don't have to be up the rev range to get the fun.
I was exaggerating when I said I never looked back at the S1K, I miss its ruthless top end. But only occasionally.
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