S1000rr or 848 evo

[AdamLoewy]

sc0tt said:

Want, I'm sure you are on my flickr followers list.

Believe I am, you posted some sexual shots of the eponymous Lava red and then I stalked you...!

[AdamLoewy]

Ho Lee Kau said:

2010 S1000RR vs 1198S

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2010/05/article/2010...

For sure the S1K will spank the 1198s in reviews, charts, speeds and lap times. Its a hugely talented bike, no question about that.

[legzr1]

AdamLoewy said:

I went from S1000RR to a 1198s and have never looked back. Forget the 848, get a 1198 and enjoy

2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on Flickr

I went the opposite way (forced on me in a way because of change of job and frequent 300 mile commute - something the 1198 would have terrible at) and I always 'looked back'.

The 1198 is an occasion.
The S1000RR is a very, very good bike.

[R1 Dave]

Ho Lee Kau said:

R1 Dave said:

I rode a mates 2015 S1000RR at the weekend and it's a lovely bike and very capable. The regular IL4 engine was a bit too smooth (and therefore a bit uninspiring) for my liking. It didn't seem to corner at deftly as my 2015 R1 either. The brakes were truly sensational though. I've no idea if the previous owner had upgraded them but I tapped them to slot into a gap and thought I was going to flip the thing. Scary braking power.

If you're wanting something special I'd go for the 848 over the S1k, but echo the recommendation for the RSV4, wonderful bike. If your budget will stretch then I'd also recommend test riding a 2015> R1, the crossplane engine is way more characterful than a regular IL4, especially with a decent can and ECU flash.

But throttle response on R1 is really crap. The power delivery is also very spiky, nothing-nothing, then after 7k BOOM!
Like Yamaha said, the R1 is build for the track duty first and foremost, and if you want to take it on the street - you have to deal with its deficiencies.
It's great for track, probably the best, but for the street there are better bikes. RSV4 for example, plus it connects better on the emotional level.

S1000RR is great street bike, roomy, smooth, great brakes, heated grips.

You're right when discussing the standard bike, with a flash tune it's a different animal. I guess it depends on your riding style; for commuting it's st but for thrashing down a twisty road it's fabulous. S1000RR is a more versatile bike but I wouldn't want to swap.

[Ho Lee Kau]

AdamLoewy said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

That bike is beautiful, I played with the idea itself (I prefer these bikes than the 1299-style no-frame no-exhaust-under-seat ones). But for my Ducati is pita, excessive heat, heavy clutch, disgusting engine characteristics below 4000, (too) loud all the time.

Tell me, why do you say "you've never looked back". What was so bad on S1000RR that was so good on 1198, vice versa? I am very curious.

Its an event. I like loud v-twins, the handling reminds me of my old RS125, it loves being over on its ear whereas I never gelled with the handling of the S1K and didn't have the confidence on it that I do with the 1198.
The 1198s engine is a monster, if it had the top end rush of a 1299, I'd be a very happy man. The warp speed of the S1K top end is awesome. However for me, the 1198s engine is more awesome, more of the time as I don't have to be up the rev range to get the fun.
I was exaggerating when I said I never looked back at the S1K, I miss its ruthless top end. But only occasionally.

Cool. Thanks.
Have to test ride one of these true Big Ducatis.

[Ho Lee Kau]

legzr1 said:

AdamLoewy said:

I went from S1000RR to a 1198s and have never looked back. Forget the 848, get a 1198 and enjoy

2009 Ducati 1198s by Adam Loewy, on Flickr

I went the opposite way (forced on me in a way because of change of job and frequent 300 mile commute - something the 1198 would have terrible at) and I always 'looked back'.

The 1198 is an occasion.
The S1000RR is a very, very good bike.

That's how I felt after riding 1299S over mountain hairpins. A freaking EVENT! Not a good street bike, though.

[Ho Lee Kau]

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[Ho Lee Kau]

R1 Dave said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

R1 Dave said:

I rode a mates 2015 S1000RR at the weekend and it's a lovely bike and very capable. The regular IL4 engine was a bit too smooth (and therefore a bit uninspiring) for my liking. It didn't seem to corner at deftly as my 2015 R1 either. The brakes were truly sensational though. I've no idea if the previous owner had upgraded them but I tapped them to slot into a gap and thought I was going to flip the thing. Scary braking power.

If you're wanting something special I'd go for the 848 over the S1k, but echo the recommendation for the RSV4, wonderful bike. If your budget will stretch then I'd also recommend test riding a 2015> R1, the crossplane engine is way more characterful than a regular IL4, especially with a decent can and ECU flash.

But throttle response on R1 is really crap. The power delivery is also very spiky, nothing-nothing, then after 7k BOOM!
Like Yamaha said, the R1 is build for the track duty first and foremost, and if you want to take it on the street - you have to deal with its deficiencies.
It's great for track, probably the best, but for the street there are better bikes. RSV4 for example, plus it connects better on the emotional level.

S1000RR is great street bike, roomy, smooth, great brakes, heated grips.

You're right when discussing the standard bike, with a flash tune it's a different animal. I guess it depends on your riding style; for commuting it's st but for thrashing down a twisty road it's fabulous. S1000RR is a more versatile bike but I wouldn't want to swap.

If I had R1 I would probably loose my license or my life. :-) It just begs you to go faster in the corners. :-)

Basically, each manufacturer has their own advantages and their own deficiencies on their halo bikes. It would be nice to own all of those halo bikes at ones. :-)
For the last few months I've been unsure if I want to trade my 2014 Daytona 675 + 2006 GSXR1000 for 2015 RSV4RF. I don't want to afford to have all three (plus 954RR and F4i which I plan to keep), and I love both what I have and the Aprilia.

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Friday 31st March 20:12