THE disc lock?

[Prof Prolapse]

This has my interest just now. Litelock X-1 and X-3.

Looks like to be the first one I've ever seen which is legitimately grinder resistant, i.e. in independent reviews they're needed 5+ discs and even destroying motors on cordless operated grinders;

https://www.litelok.com/collections/motorcycle-loc...

A mate of mine just had is Surron nicked and I'm trying to convince him to buy one.

He won't of course.

[Pent]

try looking at the videos on youtube , benetts did a great review of some locks that had to take 3 angle grinder discs to cut through and he used a corded version which was impressive.

there are great disc locks out there , and coupled with a tracker makes for a safe bike

[KTMsm]

I have an alarmed kovix - mostly because it came with a bike - but it works well and has a handy attachment that enables you to also use a steel cable with it

For lightweight convenience it's hard to beat IMO

It is worth checking before you buy as some of the tough looking ones are easily defeated - see the Bennets tests

The other option is just to use the padlock from your chain - ie the Oxford HD "disc lock"

[XRTInfraction]

lukeyman said:

Here's Bennett's take on the Roadlok.

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/prod...

I've got one... Means I've always got a lock with me. I've also got an Oxford Patriot that can be used as another disc lock or to secure the matching chain in the garage.

Did you buy it direct? Or is there a UK distributor?

[bsidethecside]

XRTInfraction said:

Did you buy it direct? Or is there a UK distributor?

To jump in... I only found an option to buy direct at the moment, so I did. I have pre-ordered an X3. It won't ship for about a month or so, but they offer a discount at the moment. I want mine for the summer when I'm off on tour.

It's UK made (Wales) and they are very responsive to queries on email or Facebook. It's also slightly bigger than the rival Hiplok D1000.

The Bennets vids are a top source of impartial info.

[XRTInfraction]

Was just coming back to update that there's a UK distributor and there appears to be stock:

https://roadlokuk.co.uk/

I've just placed an order, should have it in a couple of days (be sure to pick the free 48hr delivery option).

[vonhosen]

Litelok X3
Hiplok D1000

[lukeyman]

XRTInfraction said:

Was just coming back to update that there's a UK distributor and there appears to be stock:

https://roadlokuk.co.uk/

I've just placed an order, should have it in a couple of days (be sure to pick the free 48hr delivery option).

Mine was a random eBay purchase… but I think I spoke to the importer guy during my search for the longer bolts I didn’t get. Was pretty helpful and interested in what bike I was sizing it up for. I ended up sourcing some Ti bolts instead.

[deja.vu]

Prof Prolapse said:

This has my interest just now. Litelock X-1 and X-3.

Looks like to be the first one I've ever seen which is legitimately grinder resistant, i.e. in independent reviews they're needed 5+ discs and even destroying motors on cordless operated grinders;

https://www.litelok.com/collections/motorcycle-loc...

A mate of mine just had is Surron nicked and I'm trying to convince him to buy one.

He won't of course.

I’ve got the X-1.
The X-3 wasn’t on sale when I got it.

They both rate very highly

[croyde]

I know a chap who came across two scrotes angle grinding the lock on his brand new T Max in an underground parking garage by Oxford Circus.

He had to just standby and watch whilst one of the s threatened him with a knife.

The inventor of the cheap battery operated angle grinder should hang for his heresy.

As to the poster who thinks it has calmed down.

I think it's just the press has moved onto something else to rile up the masses. I'm sure that the robberies and bike jackings continue.

Here in London I see many scooters two up, no plates, being ridden crazily through traffic.

I suspect that they don't even have licences or insurance

[RazerSauber]

Krikkit said:

RazerSauber said:

As far as LPL goes, as fantastically impressive as his skills are, that took years of practice and a bespoke took to crack. I'd wager it'd be quicker to cut the chain with a grinder and be on your way.

It would definitely be quicker, not necessarily more subtle.

I've used one of those disc-detainer picking tools (a mate of mine is a big LPL fanboy and bought one) and it's very straight-forward with minor familiarity in lock picking. I had his bike lock (a Kryptonite) open in about a minute without too much trouble.

That said, I absolutely recognise that it'll be an exceedingly rare case that someone bothers with picking tools instead of a battery grinder.

p.s. Lock picking is a great little hobby, get a set of cheap tools and a few padlocks and have a go! I think I got a set with a dummy clear-case padlock from aliexpress for a tenner.

Most thieves don't have the intelligence to operate anything more complicated than a tool with an on/off switch and they wouldn't look threatening pointing a small T shaped piece of metal at you, and they'd have to start again. They'd also have to carry a large array of tools and the knowledge on how to use each one when presented with a number of locks and lock types. It's impractical but you raise a good point that some locks can be picked easily and silently with something like a bump key, wave rake or even just a hammer.

I keep looking at those kits and fancy a dabble. Maybe one day I'll have a go.

[black-k1]

RazerSauber said:

Krikkit said:

RazerSauber said:

As far as LPL goes, as fantastically impressive as his skills are, that took years of practice and a bespoke took to crack. I'd wager it'd be quicker to cut the chain with a grinder and be on your way.

It would definitely be quicker, not necessarily more subtle.

I've used one of those disc-detainer picking tools (a mate of mine is a big LPL fanboy and bought one) and it's very straight-forward with minor familiarity in lock picking. I had his bike lock (a Kryptonite) open in about a minute without too much trouble.

That said, I absolutely recognise that it'll be an exceedingly rare case that someone bothers with picking tools instead of a battery grinder.

p.s. Lock picking is a great little hobby, get a set of cheap tools and a few padlocks and have a go! I think I got a set with a dummy clear-case padlock from aliexpress for a tenner.

Most thieves don't have the intelligence to operate anything more complicated than a tool with an on/off switch and they wouldn't look threatening pointing a small T shaped piece of metal at you, and they'd have to start again. They'd also have to carry a large array of tools and the knowledge on how to use each one when presented with a number of locks and lock types. It's impractical but you raise a good point that some locks can be picked easily and silently with something like a bump key, wave rake or even just a hammer.

I keep looking at those kits and fancy a dabble. Maybe one day I'll have a go.

While I agree with regards to many "knuckle draggers" that steal bikes, thieving, as a business, is the ultimate definition of capitalism. Those with the least cost and least risk will likely be the most successful and make the greatest profit. If a tiny investment in tools and a few evenings practising makes a bike thief a competent lock picker then, as the lock is now getting to be the weakest link in the chain (pun intended ) and lock picking is less obvious, it won't be long before that's how many bike thefts are committed.

Bike thieves are very adaptable and quick to learn. From methods for getting past steering locks, to cordless angle grinders, to using super scooters to parking to see if trackers are fitted, if it works for them, they'll do it.

[SteveKTMer]

Outside of my garage I use a cheap alarmed disc lock which makes an annoying noise if the bike is moved or rocked. Probably sufficient to deter the usual kids looking for an easy target but a couple of determined thieves will turn up in a van and in 20 seconds it'll be gone.

In my garage I have a massive ground anchor which has 4 expanding bolts into the concrete floor with a chemical bond, then an Almax chain and massive padlock (£300 total I thin about 8 years ago) through the rear wheel, simply because there's nowhere to put a large chain through the frame. Garage door has Chubb padlocks with steel supports around the hasp, but again, reversing a transit against the door will open it then remove the rear wheel, if they have brought a KTM sized socket with them and can remove the nut which was tightened to 250 Nm.

There's not much you can do to stop a bike being stolen if the thieves are determined and know they have a buyer for it who will pay well. Same with modern cars, ironically a modern Range Rover/BMW etc is easier to steal than older, much cheaper cars.

[fred bloggs]

If you really don't want your bike going walkabout, a disk lock isn't going to stop any thief.

They will take the disk bolts out ,and cable tie the disk to the fork, and off they go.

[croyde]

I knew of a chap once who had his Hyabusa stolen from his heavily fortified garage.

They took the roof off and used a crane on a pick up to lift the bike out.

[GSA_fattie]

i have a roadlok

i find it very convenient, more than a standard disc lock - just keep it clean

why do these posts always end up like this, someone just asks for a bit of info and someone, who clearly didn't have a w_ank in the shower this morning, gets all high and fu_cking mighty showing a video that has fu_ck all to do with the product mentioned

FFS

[Tribal Chestnut]

This was my ‘best’, hopefully took more than a minute to remove. Haven’t seen it since…

[bsidethecside]

croyde said:

I know a chap who came across two scrotes angle grinding the lock on his brand new T Max in an underground parking garage by Oxford Circus.

He had to just standby and watch whilst one of the s threatened him with a knife.

The inventor of the cheap battery operated angle grinder should hang for his heresy.

As to the poster who thinks it has calmed down.

I think it's just the press has moved onto something else to rile up the masses. I'm sure that the robberies and bike jackings continue.

Here in London I see many scooters two up, no plates, being ridden crazily through traffic.

I suspect that they don't even have licences or insurance

Afraid I wouldn't even bother riding my bike in London anymore. Or Leeds, Edinburgh etc... Pity that it's come to this, but a ridiculously overstretched Police and a CPS without any teeth makes it all more risk / hassle than I can be bothered with.

[Tribal Chestnut]

bsidethecside said:

Afraid I wouldn't even bother riding my bike in London anymore. Or Leeds, Edinburgh etc... Pity that it's come to this, but a ridiculously overstretched Police and a CPS without any teeth makes it all more risk / hassle than I can be bothered with.

Ride an MT10 in pretty much every day with no issues. Willing to take the risk to avoid the train.

[Killboy]

I've recent received my HipLok DX1000 I pre-ordered in Jan. Holy Moly is massive and weighty. Even if it wasn't made of special stuff I could see it putting off angle grinding chavs. The only way to carry out around will be with some sort of mount.