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Chipchap said:
If Marc does start winning on a 2023 Gresini "Customer bike" You would get concerned every time a Ducati Factory Software engineer plugged a lap top into his bike, just in case they drop it 250 rpm or retard the ignition 2 degrees etc to handicap him.
Tinfoil hat time.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility. After all, Michelin were very keen to point out that Martin's tyres were absolutely fine, and it only needs 5% more slip dialled into the electronics for him to go from a front runner to someone rolling around in 10th Tinfoil hat time.
Like I said in the post above, there's no way Italian pride will allow a year old satelite bike to beat the all powerful Factory red bike, especially not with a Spaniard on board when they have their Italian superstar
graeme4130 said:
Chipchap said:
If Marc does start winning on a 2023 Gresini "Customer bike" You would get concerned every time a Ducati Factory Software engineer plugged a lap top into his bike, just in case they drop it 250 rpm or retard the ignition 2 degrees etc to handicap him.
Tinfoil hat time.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility. After all, Michelin were very keen to point out that Martin's tyres were absolutely fine, and it only needs 5% more slip dialled into the electronics for him to go from a front runner to someone rolling around in 10th Tinfoil hat time.
Like I said in the post above, there's no way Italian pride will allow a year old satelite bike to beat the all powerful Factory red bike, especially not with a Spaniard on board when they have their Italian superstar
I don't think much of the Martin to HRC rumours, if the bike is good enough to get his attention then it'll be good enough for Marc, and Mir too. HRC only have one seat thanks to the Marini deal.
I'd like to see Aprillia do something on the rider market, they've had a championship contending bike for the last couple of seasons but are without a championship contending rider. Aleix has been brilliant as a team leader for them, but there's only a handful of riders who can string together the consistency of performance required to win the title. For years Mav looked like he might be a contender but it's never materialised.
I'd like to see Aprillia do something on the rider market, they've had a championship contending bike for the last couple of seasons but are without a championship contending rider. Aleix has been brilliant as a team leader for them, but there's only a handful of riders who can string together the consistency of performance required to win the title. For years Mav looked like he might be a contender but it's never materialised.
I think Martin is just desperate for a factory ride and will probably go anywhere for it, even Honda, if the bike improves this year any rider that good is arrogant enough to think they can make the difference. he is especially arrogant!!
Not sure on Aprilia, Aleix is starting to show he is praps past his sell by and Mav manages about 4 or 5 great rides a years as he seemingly always has.
I think if they want to go anywhere they nee to do what Yamaha did and try and capture an emerging talent in Moto2 that isn't on the Red Bull or V^ production line. Or maybe tap up a Bezzechi or Ennea mid way through the year if they are not doing as well and fancy an out! Shame Miguel is not an option but he seems inconsistent, but knowing what we now know of that team, maybe some of that was not him?
Not sure on Aprilia, Aleix is starting to show he is praps past his sell by and Mav manages about 4 or 5 great rides a years as he seemingly always has.
I think if they want to go anywhere they nee to do what Yamaha did and try and capture an emerging talent in Moto2 that isn't on the Red Bull or V^ production line. Or maybe tap up a Bezzechi or Ennea mid way through the year if they are not doing as well and fancy an out! Shame Miguel is not an option but he seems inconsistent, but knowing what we now know of that team, maybe some of that was not him?
Read this on Crash.Net
Moto2 teen talent Fermin Aldeguer “signs contract” to guarantee ‘25 Ducati MotoGP move
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1043744/1/moto2-...
Moto2 teen talent Fermin Aldeguer “signs contract” to guarantee ‘25 Ducati MotoGP move
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1043744/1/moto2-...
2025: "Hello Fermin, yes we had promised you a Ducati but Jorge Martin didn't move as expected and all of the other riders have put in race winning performances, so there's no seat available. But we have been hard at work and here as promised is your Ducati. Enjoy Moto E"
I think their target will be replacing DiGianntonio at VR46. Pressure from the start.
I think their target will be replacing DiGianntonio at VR46. Pressure from the start.
MM will have the upper hand on a year old championship winning bike for a couple of months or so until the Big Red team start to dial in the new 24 model. It may even muddy the waters because Bagnia cannot just throw in MM settings and vice versa as they are 2 different bikes. Exactly how different is anyone's guess.
I also wander how much sand bagging there will be at the upcoming tests. No one wanting to show true potential that early. Looking forward to it all immensely this year.
I also wander how much sand bagging there will be at the upcoming tests. No one wanting to show true potential that early. Looking forward to it all immensely this year.
FourWheelDrift said:
2025: "Hello Fermin, yes we had promised you a Ducati but Jorge Martin didn't move as expected and all of the other riders have put in race winning performances, so there's no seat available. But we have been hard at work and here as promised is your Ducati. Enjoy Moto E"
I think their target will be replacing DiGianntonio at VR46. Pressure from the start.
Morbidelli better pull his finger out this year too. I think their target will be replacing DiGianntonio at VR46. Pressure from the start.
I don't know why, but I just don't think Martin will be the same force in '24 as he was in '23. I agree he is desperate for a factory ride (understandably as the money is several multiples higher and you're much more in the lead of the bike being built to your preferences). Which factory would let Martin have that leading role? Not sure Yamaha would where they are currently, Ducati have already passed him over once, KTM have enough talents, Honda may or Aprilia, especially given the relationship between Espagaro and Martin.
The '24 factory Ducati bikes are allegedly not so different to the '23 bikes. I'm sure I read or heard D'alignia admitting as much, commenting about historical big changes meant they took longer to realise the potential at the start/through of the next season. I think the '24 bikes will be up to speed quicker, although there will be a process to get them fully up to potential - also, we will have to wait to see what the potential is through the season, where the satellite bikes remain perhaps more static.
The latest Race podcast chatting with MM93's new crew chief, Frankie Carchedi is interesting to listen too.
The '24 factory Ducati bikes are allegedly not so different to the '23 bikes. I'm sure I read or heard D'alignia admitting as much, commenting about historical big changes meant they took longer to realise the potential at the start/through of the next season. I think the '24 bikes will be up to speed quicker, although there will be a process to get them fully up to potential - also, we will have to wait to see what the potential is through the season, where the satellite bikes remain perhaps more static.
The latest Race podcast chatting with MM93's new crew chief, Frankie Carchedi is interesting to listen too.
Johno said:
I don't know why, but I just don't think Martin will be the same force in '24 as he was in '23. I agree he is desperate for a factory ride (understandably as the money is several multiples higher and you're much more in the lead of the bike being built to your preferences). Which factory would let Martin have that leading role? Not sure Yamaha would where they are currently, Ducati have already passed him over once, KTM have enough talents, Honda may or Aprilia, especially given the relationship between Espagaro and Martin.
The '24 factory Ducati bikes are allegedly not so different to the '23 bikes. I'm sure I read or heard D'alignia admitting as much, commenting about historical big changes meant they took longer to realise the potential at the start/through of the next season. I think the '24 bikes will be up to speed quicker, although there will be a process to get them fully up to potential - also, we will have to wait to see what the potential is through the season, where the satellite bikes remain perhaps more static.
The latest Race podcast chatting with MM93's new crew chief, Frankie Carchedi is interesting to listen too.
Hi Johno, whats that podcast actually called ?The '24 factory Ducati bikes are allegedly not so different to the '23 bikes. I'm sure I read or heard D'alignia admitting as much, commenting about historical big changes meant they took longer to realise the potential at the start/through of the next season. I think the '24 bikes will be up to speed quicker, although there will be a process to get them fully up to potential - also, we will have to wait to see what the potential is through the season, where the satellite bikes remain perhaps more static.
The latest Race podcast chatting with MM93's new crew chief, Frankie Carchedi is interesting to listen too.
sclayto2 said:
epom said:
Zarco said:
epom said:
Hi Johno, whats that podcast actually called ?
The Race MotoGP Podcast.
The Race MotoGP Podcast
Oxley Bom Motogp Podcast
The Paddock Pass Podcast (covers WSBK too)
Any others?
Zarco said:
Snap for MotoGP. They are all very good.
Agreed. Although Oxley seems to be getting more and more sweary each successive episode. Some presenters use the F word sparingly to good effect and carry it off ok (Chris Harris) but Oxley doesn't hit the right tone IMHO and should give it up.sclayto2 said:
The relevant podcasts I listen to:
The Race MotoGP Podcast
Oxley Bom Motogp Podcast
The Paddock Pass Podcast (covers WSBK too)
Any others?
I haven't unearthed any others that add anything. I've listened to others, but not got anything more from them. Oxley/Bom is the one I wait to hear each week as Oxley is such a seasoned MGP journo and Bom really add the tech insights like few other journo's can or do.The Race MotoGP Podcast
Oxley Bom Motogp Podcast
The Paddock Pass Podcast (covers WSBK too)
Any others?
Oxley/Bom will be adding a website/back catalogue and subscription model, I guess a bit like MotoMatters does, maybe The Race as well - I don't know much of their stuff past the podcast.
A993LAD said:
Zarco said:
Snap for MotoGP. They are all very good.
Agreed. Although Oxley seems to be getting more and more sweary each successive episode. Some presenters use the F word sparingly to good effect and carry it off ok (Chris Harris) but Oxley doesn't hit the right tone IMHO and should give it up.The 45secs of theme tune at the start of every single podcast annoys me a little. Really don't see the point in that.
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