Moto GP 2024

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540TORQUES

4,673 posts

16 months

Saturday 30th March
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Stan the Bat said:
dukeboy749r said:
Turn7 said:
Hmmmm, not sure how I feel about this....

https://motomatters.com/news/2024/03/28/f1_owner_l...
Not an F1 fan personally, so have mixed feelings that a US entertainment company (Liberty Media) has motorcycle racing’s premiere competition ‘best interests’ at heart.
I fear that this is not a good move.
That depends what your motivation is. If you want to make a shed load of money it's a great move.

Stan the Bat

8,948 posts

213 months

Saturday 30th March
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540TORQUES said:
Stan the Bat said:
dukeboy749r said:
Turn7 said:
Hmmmm, not sure how I feel about this....

https://motomatters.com/news/2024/03/28/f1_owner_l...
Not an F1 fan personally, so have mixed feelings that a US entertainment company (Liberty Media) has motorcycle racing’s premiere competition ‘best interests’ at heart.
I fear that this is not a good move.
That depends what your motivation is. If you want to make a shed load of money it's a great move.
Of course.

graeme4130

3,836 posts

182 months

Saturday 30th March
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I actually think it’s going to be really good for the sport going forwards
Like or hate F1, you can’t argue that Liberty have made it massive over the last few years, and have brought fans in in their droves
The racing is boring, but that side of things is mainly down to the size of the cars and a rules in place at the tracks, something that would be in place regardless of liberty or not
MotoGP on the other hand, is an exciting product and something, if marketed correctly, can become huge
That can only be good for the sport as it brings more eyes on it, and subsequently more sponsorship to get more riders involved

Edited by graeme4130 on Saturday 30th March 21:31

dukeboy749r

2,714 posts

211 months

Sunday 31st March
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graeme4130 said:
I actually think it’s going to be really good for the sport going forwards
Like or hate F1, you can’t argue that Liberty have made it massive over the last few years, and have brought fans in in their droves
The racing is boring, but that side of things is mainly down to the size of the cars and a rules in place at the tracks, something that would be in place regardless of liberty or not
MotoGP on the other hand, is an exciting product and something, if marketed correctly, can become huge
That can only be good for the sport as it brings more eyes on it, and subsequently more sponsorship to get more riders involved

Edited by graeme4130 on Saturday 30th March 21:31
That’s certainly a possibility.

Although, some of the rules that get made, ostensibly by the FIA, may well be as a result of discussions with Liberty Media, to ‘amplify’ certain characteristics of the racing, when in fact they end up making it st as a racing series.

Time will certainly tell!

FourWheelDrift

88,615 posts

285 months

Monday 1st April
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Deal done, Liberty Media buys MotoGP - https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2024/04/01/liberty-...











Ha ha ha ha April Fool....Ha ha ha ha ha.........oh no, wait. It's real.

Zarco

17,926 posts

210 months

Monday 1st April
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Harley Davidson have announced they are entering MotoGP in 2027.

carlo996

5,783 posts

22 months

Monday 1st April
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Oh well. There goes racing!

hiccy18

2,690 posts

68 months

Monday 1st April
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With more eyes on the racing the commercial rights holders, the teams and the factories all set to benefit from this. The only people not considered in any of this are the (predominately european) fans who have supported the racing so far. Increased popularity regionally will increase demand for tickets at live events with reasonably fixed capacities increasing costs of attendance which will be pushed to the limit. There'll be pressure to host more than one US round which will come at the cost of European rounds as the riders and teams already feel at the limit of how many races they can compete in annually, again putting upwards pressure on ticket pricing.

HybridTheory

420 posts

33 months

Monday 1st April
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Commercially they'll do a good job imo as the current incumbents really don't do a great job of promotion imo

Zarco

17,926 posts

210 months

Monday 1st April
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Making the whole thing less Spanish centric might be a good thing too.

epom

11,572 posts

162 months

Monday 1st April
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Every sport in the world is chasing a bigger audience. So not that massive a shock. The Rossi (or lack of) factor must have hit the numbers. So did Track House racing know something we didn’t smile
Will hold judgement for now.

Forester1965

1,693 posts

4 months

Monday 1st April
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Welcome MotoGP to gimmicks, crap TV shows, worse racing and milking every penny.

Zarco

17,926 posts

210 months

Monday 1st April
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Forester1965 said:
Welcome MotoGP to gimmicks, crap TV shows, worse racing and milking every penny.
If you're drawing parallels with F1:

- the racing was already crap
- gimmicks like DRS had been around for a while before Liberty too


Se7enheaven

1,726 posts

165 months

Monday 1st April
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Personally I don’t think Liberty getting involved in Moto GP is a good thing. But let’s see which way it goes.

hiccy18

2,690 posts

68 months

Monday 1st April
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Zarco said:
Forester1965 said:
Welcome MotoGP to gimmicks, crap TV shows, worse racing and milking every penny.
If you're drawing parallels with F1:

- the racing was already crap
- gimmicks like DRS had been around for a while before Liberty too
This is fair comment.

Se7enheaven said:
Personally I don’t think Liberty getting involved in Moto GP is a good thing. But let’s see which way it goes.
My concern is they've just bought all world championship circuit racing. Dorna have done very well at packaging it all up, but for those who may decide to vote with their feet, it's national championships or another discipline.

On a positive note, they could improve the official feed by changing the commentary team.

Johno

8,433 posts

283 months

Monday 1st April
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I’m open minded to it…. We won’t see stupid street circuit nonsense races like F1.

Tech regs aren’t decided by the rights holders, so hopefully the next set will reduce the engineer led racing we have, at least for a while.

Commercial promotion needs a revamp and it’ll surely get one, ‘there can be only one’ was alright in the first series, it was a poor second series and behind a paywall, simple enough stuff to fix and LM will do that.

Expanding the revenue, as long as teams benefits mean there’ll be trickle down benefits for feeder series, a broader set of circuits etc etc

We have the greatest spectacle of motorsport, where you can see the real racing happening. If LM are smart they’ll look to expose that more, undoubtedly led with characters and behind the scenes netflixification etc of the pit lane and stories.

I’m hopeful. F1 has st racing and it’s been like this for a long long time. It’s now st racing and a period of domination, which is the worst thing for any series. Yet even while it’s as dull as dishwater and as predictable night following day, they’ve grown the audience and the revenues.

Imagine if the racing was awesome as well …. We have the racing, let’s hope for the other benefits.

Hungrymc

6,689 posts

138 months

Monday 1st April
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Any ‘progress’ they have made with F1 has been on the commercialisation side. The racing has become even worse, and it wasn’t good to start with. The one group of people who haven’t benefited from Liberty in F1 are the fans who were already there.

I really don’t expect this to be a good thing for the quality of the racing. In fact, the focus will move to personalities and fabricated drama.

Sincerely hope I’m wrong.

HybridTheory

420 posts

33 months

Monday 1st April
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hiccy18 said:
My concern is they've just bought all world championship circuit racing. Dorna have done very well at packaging it all up, but for those who may decide to vote with their feet, it's national championships or another discipline.

On a positive note, they could improve the official feed by changing the commentary team.
I wonder whether the eu commission will pass the sale providing they sell off some of the stock ie wsbk and MotoE something like this

540TORQUES

4,673 posts

16 months

Monday 1st April
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F1 is behind a paywall, so don't see why anyone would think MotoGP would be moving to free to view under liberty.

Marquezs Stabilisers

1,252 posts

62 months

Monday 1st April
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HybridTheory said:
Commercially they'll do a good job imo as the current incumbents really don't do a great job of promotion imo
Agree, there's too much behind a pay wall or on the MotoGP site.