Moto GP 2024

[NITO]

Great race, shame for Jorge, it’s never nice when a top runner bins it, especially from the lead, good for the championship I guess in bringing everyone closer I guess. The sudden front tuck must be so damaging to confidence, especially when you are at the extremities of the envelope.

Marc was awesome and fair play to Pecco for responding, particularly that fastest lap he put in that us probably some of the best riding I’ve ever seen from Pecco and must be a real boost to his confidence getting the better of an on form Marquez . I feel the 24 Ducati has an edge putting the power down on corner exit and a smidge more straightline performance based purely on observation, so for Marc to come in .35 sec behind or whatever it ended up at was amazing, especially given that Pecco was on it today from the off.

I still think KTM will try to get Marc and Pedro on an MV colours team and Ducati will be keeping an eye on Marc, they’d rather have him with them than running a competitor bike. Certainly for their 100th anniversary in 2026.

Gigi and Davide’s faces were a picture today. Strong performance from Bez also and Alex wasn’t too shabby. Morbidelli’s days seem numbered, shame for Zarco too. Oliveira was having a half decent race though I can’t say I noticed where he finished, he was in 7th.

Shame Maverick wasn’t to his recent form as last race was wonderful stuff.

It’s shaping up to be quite the season!

[Yazza54]

Yeah shame for Jorge but with Marc and pecco falling off a few times it's slightly rebalanced things. It's shaping up very well indeed.

I agree, I think the Gp24 is faster in those areas too. Ultimately Marc has consistently been the fastest GP23 by a considerable margin. Even though he says the adaptation is complete I think he may continue to improve.

[Johno]

3 good races today, Bagnaia was awesome today, he really took it on and that lap record was sooo impressive. CV’s win in Moto3 was also very impressive, leading from the front and delivering at the end in M3 is always seriously tough.

KTM have already been told there aren’t more grid slots available for another team, so I don’t see any MV colours coming soon unless GasGas swap to MV. Grid slots will go to BMW in 2027, allegedly, more rumours. Miller to GasGas, Acosta and Binder on the factory bikes.

D’allignia apparently (rumoured) wants MM93 in the factory, so will be interesting to see if it happens. I suspect Martin will go to a factory ride (not Ducati) and then won’t be as competitive, but will be happy he’s earning what he believes he should earn.

Aprilia doing what Aprilia do, world beaters last GP, apparently absent this weekend. Good to see Bez finding his way with the ‘23 bike at last.

[Zarco]

Maximum respect to Pecco today. That move out-braking Martin and Bezzecchi on the outside on the first lap, then pushing Martin into a mistake, then showing Marquez who's boss at the end. He's so impressive when he rides like this.

Shades of Dovi vs Marquez battles for me, which I always enjoyed. He's a bit like a super-Dovi in many ways.

[HybridTheory]

Sprint was mental yesterday and enjoyed the race today

[FourWheelDrift]

Zarco thrown out of race stewards meeting for complaining about Freddie Spencer, about time someone said it. He's not fit for the job.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1047596/1/johann...

[Gas1883]

Think Marc is going to struggle as you could visibly see the gp24 pulling away on acceleration

[Yazza54]

Gas1883 said:

Think Marc is going to struggle as you could visibly see the gp24 pulling away on acceleration

Yep, been quite apparent since the beginning of the season. Whether it's the new bike or less advantageous mapping for satellite bikes, who knows. He's making the difference but as usual it means he's riding harder, which is always a worry with him.

Being a Marc fan in the second half of his career is bloody stressful. The haters are still in full force on all the socials, only came second etc. That win is coming but regardless, you have to be blind not to see that he's still got it.

[Zarco]

Yazza54 said:

Gas1883 said:

Think Marc is going to struggle as you could visibly see the gp24 pulling away on acceleration

Yep, been quite apparent since the beginning of the season. Whether it's the new bike or less advantageous mapping for satellite bikes, who knows. He's making the difference but as usual it means he's riding harder, which is always a worry with him.

Being a Marc fan in the second half of his career is bloody stressful. The haters are still in full force on all the socials, only came second etc. That win is coming but regardless, you have to be blind not to see that he's still got it.

Its probably a riding style thing as well to a certain extent.

MM is used to pushing the front into the turns, from his Honda days and maybe that's just how he likes to ride. The Ducati is more about maximising exit speed. Bagnaia and Martin are obviously more experienced with the bike, and better at riding it that way.

Personally I didn't see MM at any major bike disadvantage today. He lost out in the early laps when he was riding tight by his own admission. He got a good launch compared to the sprint (when it did look like the GP24s' got the jump on him). Bagnaia was just bloody quick when he pulled the pin at the end of the race.

[epom]

FourWheelDrift said:

Zarco thrown out of race stewards meeting for complaining about Freddie Spencer, about time someone said it. He's not fit for the job.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1047596/1/johann...

Good for him for not backing down.

[Se7enheaven]

Morbidelli is a liability. I used to have a lot of time for him but I’m afraid it’s like his head is now too slow to keep track of how fast everything is moving in Moto GP. He’s more like a wrecking ball than a racer now.

Other than that an utterly brilliant weekend, entertainment value 12 out of 10.. Roll on Le Mans.

[Zarco]

epom said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Zarco thrown out of race stewards meeting for complaining about Freddie Spencer, about time someone said it. He's not fit for the job.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1047596/1/johann...

Good for him for not backing down.

Yep good on him. I like Zarco.

Must say I object to Nito saying Zarco is on his way out further up the thread This weekend he was looking good, particularly compared to the other Honda riders (even if he didn't finish a race!).

[Zarco]

Didn't realise Acosta's off in practice was so hard. Must have taken the edge off his performance in the race.

https://youtube.com/shorts/z-3aJTKyFbI?si=wz22t_oO...

[hiccy18]

Enjoyed Moto3, Moto2 yaddayadda... MotoGP was awesome!

Brilliant to see MM and Pecco hammering it at the front. Full respect to Pecco, I've been a bit critical of him recently, mostly in regards to his off-bike comments, but today was a great reminder of just how brilliant he can be. MM is so close, initially seemed a bit deflated, and then the crowd erupted. Fantastic to watch his heartfelt celebrations, and deserved after that performance. Bez and AM rode really well also.

Good on Johann for speaking his mind, as normal: I don't think Aleix or Frankie deserved to walk away without punishment.

This time last year I (and others) were bemoaning a processional, lacklustre season; this year is AMAZING!!!

(Actually, Joe Roberts was pretty smashing).

[rallycross]

Only seen the 5 mins highlights on YouTube but looks like another amazing race this year. MM giving it everything scary to watch he’s right on the edge - I’m sure he will soon get another win hope he calms down a bit has nothing to prove clearly those Hondas were all a bit crap v’s the Ducatti domination of recent years .

[2ndclasscitizen]

Zarco said:

Yazza54 said:

Gas1883 said:

Think Marc is going to struggle as you could visibly see the gp24 pulling away on acceleration

Yep, been quite apparent since the beginning of the season. Whether it's the new bike or less advantageous mapping for satellite bikes, who knows. He's making the difference but as usual it means he's riding harder, which is always a worry with him.

Being a Marc fan in the second half of his career is bloody stressful. The haters are still in full force on all the socials, only came second etc. That win is coming but regardless, you have to be blind not to see that he's still got it.

Its probably a riding style thing as well to a certain extent.

MM is used to pushing the front into the turns, from his Honda days and maybe that's just how he likes to ride. The Ducati is more about maximising exit speed. Bagnaia and Martin are obviously more experienced with the bike, and better at riding it that way.

Personally I didn't see MM at any major bike disadvantage today. He lost out in the early laps when he was riding tight by his own admission. He got a good launch compared to the sprint (when it did look like the GP24s' got the jump on him). Bagnaia was just bloody quick when he pulled the pin at the end of the race.

It wasn't just Marc though because Bez was pulling all sorts of shapes too. You never saw the GP23s doing that last year once they had them dialled in, they were just dead smooth and locked in to the track.

[NITO]

Zarco said:

Yep good on him. I like Zarco.

Must say I object to Nito saying Zarco is on his way out further up the thread This weekend he was looking good, particularly compared to the other Honda riders (even if he didn't finish a race!).

Ah, but I didn’t. I’m a big fan of Zarco. I said “Morbidelli’s days are numbered and shame for Zarco too”. Shame he got wiped out by Morbidelli. He’s pretty much been the Honda’s highest placed rider. He’s probably the most humble racer in the paddock. I’d love to see him fighting at the front. He was superb on the Yamaha, I wonder what bike will best suit his riding style. He has more to give, it must be soul destroying circulating on that Honda.

[Fleegle]

There was a good few there

[Zarco]

2ndclasscitizen said:

Zarco said:

Yazza54 said:

Gas1883 said:

Think Marc is going to struggle as you could visibly see the gp24 pulling away on acceleration

Yep, been quite apparent since the beginning of the season. Whether it's the new bike or less advantageous mapping for satellite bikes, who knows. He's making the difference but as usual it means he's riding harder, which is always a worry with him.

Being a Marc fan in the second half of his career is bloody stressful. The haters are still in full force on all the socials, only came second etc. That win is coming but regardless, you have to be blind not to see that he's still got it.

Its probably a riding style thing as well to a certain extent.

MM is used to pushing the front into the turns, from his Honda days and maybe that's just how he likes to ride. The Ducati is more about maximising exit speed. Bagnaia and Martin are obviously more experienced with the bike, and better at riding it that way.

Personally I didn't see MM at any major bike disadvantage today. He lost out in the early laps when he was riding tight by his own admission. He got a good launch compared to the sprint (when it did look like the GP24s' got the jump on him). Bagnaia was just bloody quick when he pulled the pin at the end of the race.

It wasn't just Marc though because Bez was pulling all sorts of shapes too. You never saw the GP23s doing that last year once they had them dialled in, they were just dead smooth and locked in to the track.

I read that a Bez's tyres going off. Bez himself hasn't found a setting for the GP23 yet really. This is the first round he was competitive this year (and confortably ahead of two GP24s').

[Zarco]

NITO said:

Ah, but I didn’t. I’m a big fan of Zarco. I said “Morbidelli’s days are numbered and shame for Zarco too”. Shame he got wiped out by Morbidelli. He’s pretty much been the Honda’s highest placed rider. He’s probably the most humble racer in the paddock. I’d love to see him fighting at the front. He was superb on the Yamaha, I wonder what bike will best suit his riding style. He has more to give, it must be soul destroying circulating on that Honda.

I miss-read shame for same! Sorry.

I think this it it for him now as far as rides in MotoGP. Couple more seasons developing the Honda.