BSB 2024 it’s race time

BSB 2024 it’s race time

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poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd April
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The camera work from Navarra was very poor, Vickers save being a prime example!
How you cannot have a decent shot of the very last corner in a series like BsB that’s had its fair share of last corner action over the years, is utterly beyond me!
Some people who were there were saying, the atmosphere was amazing! ….there seemed to be absolutely no one there, so they must be Wolves fans.

trickywoo

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11,837 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd April
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Daz68 said:
Can someone please explain to me how FHO are probably the biggest spenders in BSB but their bikes are crap?
Honda haven’t done a lot better with possibly a bigger budget.

There is definitely a sweet spot in budget vs team size and neither of these two have got it right.

Fundamentally though the Yamaha seems to suit the BSB format and is relatively easy to ride so the others are already on the back foot.

slopes

38,831 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd April
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trickywoo said:
Daz68 said:
Can someone please explain to me how FHO are probably the biggest spenders in BSB but their bikes are crap?
Honda haven’t done a lot better with possibly a bigger budget.

There is definitely a sweet spot in budget vs team size and neither of these two have got it right.

Fundamentally though the Yamaha seems to suit the BSB format and is relatively easy to ride so the others are already on the back foot.
Whilst i agree with your idea and also that the R1 seems to be the most rider friendly bike, Honda have just needed a good rider on the bike and whilst anyone competing in BSB has to be good, some are just better than others. See Bridewell at Navarro, he was fast catching the top 4 before his linkage gave up the ghost.

FHO is a different kettle of fish entirely, they are missing something fundamental in their set up and whilst Navarro is unusual, i think by round 3 we will have a better idea of what the season is going to be like. But there is something very wrong there as both Brookes and Hicky can ride a bike but something is definitely off at FHO.

Turn7

23,623 posts

222 months

Monday 22nd April
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Very lacklustre opening race.

Track is dull as ditchwater and one line for super bikes.

The quality of the camera work was appalling, the definition of the images was atrocious.

Ryde seems to lack some aggression when it counts, and he needs a big year.

Couple of huge crashes were very scary..




egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd April
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slopes said:
Whilst i agree with your idea and also that the R1 seems to be the most rider friendly bike, Honda have just needed a good rider on the bike and whilst anyone competing in BSB has to be good, some are just better than others. See Bridewell at Navarro, he was fast catching the top 4 before his linkage gave up the ghost.

FHO is a different kettle of fish entirely, they are missing something fundamental in their set up and whilst Navarro is unusual, i think by round 3 we will have a better idea of what the season is going to be like. But there is something very wrong there as both Brookes and Hicky can ride a bike but something is definitely off at FHO.
Brookes never got the results at pbm though and that was a decent bike

Turn7

23,623 posts

222 months

Monday 22nd April
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I feel like JB has lost his mojo, which is shame. On his day, he’s as fast as anyone.

It’s almost like he’s forgotten what it’s like to win.

slopes

38,831 posts

188 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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egor110 said:
slopes said:
Whilst i agree with your idea and also that the R1 seems to be the most rider friendly bike, Honda have just needed a good rider on the bike and whilst anyone competing in BSB has to be good, some are just better than others. See Bridewell at Navarro, he was fast catching the top 4 before his linkage gave up the ghost.

FHO is a different kettle of fish entirely, they are missing something fundamental in their set up and whilst Navarro is unusual, i think by round 3 we will have a better idea of what the season is going to be like. But there is something very wrong there as both Brookes and Hicky can ride a bike but something is definitely off at FHO.
Brookes never got the results at pbm though and that was a decent bike
Apart from winning his second title with them of course wink
Maybe his heart isn't really in it anymore but compared to his days with Honda and Suzuki, he is waaaay way off the boil right now

Biker's Nemesis

38,694 posts

209 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Nice to see most of my thoughts are echoed here.

The TV camera's were I suspect a couple of Go Pro's or iPhones. I noticed that the gravel seemed to be higher in places than the track, a few bikes had rather big end to end flips/rolls once they hit the gravel.

I didn't think much of the racing, it well, crap and slow, if I wanted to watch stuff like that I'd watch my own YouTube video's.

slopes

38,831 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Nice to see most of my thoughts are echoed here.

The TV camera's were I suspect a couple of Go Pro's or iPhones. I noticed that the gravel seemed to be higher in places than the track, a few bikes had rather big end to end flips/rolls once they hit the gravel.

I didn't think much of the racing, it well, crap and slow, if I wanted to watch stuff like that I'd watch my own YouTube video's.
Tom Neave apparently had 3 into turn 1, the last one was caught by the tv cameras and properly destroyed his bike, looked like i'd been riding ithehe

graeme4130

3,829 posts

182 months

Wednesday 24th April
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That was an expensive weekend for the GR Motorsport team, as Tom Neave detonated 3 bikes on his debut

The track seemed to suit the R1's, much like Thurxton, but I suspect that Donington and Oulton will be different stories

Tam_Mullen

2,298 posts

173 months

Wednesday 24th April
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As others have said, not the most exciting track, but it was always going to be tough with the BSB races back to back with those WSBK races at Assen.


LucyP

1,699 posts

60 months

Friday 26th April
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Nice to see most of my thoughts are echoed here.

The TV camera's were I suspect a couple of Go Pro's or iPhones. I noticed that the gravel seemed to be higher in places than the track, a few bikes had rather big end to end flips/rolls once they hit the gravel.

I didn't think much of the racing, it well, crap and slow, if I wanted to watch stuff like that I'd watch my own YouTube video's.
They were not. It was the full Cloudbass outside broadcast equipment from the UK. The same people who also do BTCC.

The gravel is too deep. Deeper than UK circuits and it did cause problems, as you say.

graeme4130

3,829 posts

182 months

Saturday 27th April
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MSVR have a staged plan to change bits of the track, so it should be better for overtaking and have a bit more flow to it by next seasons opener
I’d assume it’s there to stay on the calender for a good few years, so should get better in terms of attendance each year
Personally, I’m quite liking forward to round 1 in the warmth next year, and would’ve been there with the team / my son this year if the electronics for the 2024 ZX6R Supersport bikes had been ready on time

TwinKam

2,992 posts

96 months

Yesterday (09:54)
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Anyone been following the testing? It's all very close at the top, at times there was less than a second covering the fastest 15. For sure, we don't know who were running full race distances and who were merely popping on new tyres for three laps of willy-waving, but on the face of it it looks like being a very exciting season me thinks.

Edited to add...
Delighted to see there's free-to-view coverage on DMAX on both the Sunday & Monday from 13:00 to 18:00, in addition to the highlights on Quest at some point.



Edited by TwinKam on Friday 3rd May 10:09

trickywoo

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11,837 posts

231 months

Yesterday (09:56)
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TwinKam said:
Anyone been following the testing? It's all very close at the top, at times there was less than a second covering the fastest 15. For sure, we don't know who were running full race distances and who were merely popping on new tyres for three laps of willy-waving, but on the face of it it looks like being a very exciting season me thinks.
I’d agree. Top 10 is close. I still think you need a yam or Duc to challenge for the title.

FredericRobinson

3,722 posts

233 months

Yesterday (16:15)
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Weekend ticket and camping pass available if anyone wants them, can email over.
Just set off and hit vehicle trouble.

airsafari87

2,600 posts

183 months

Yesterday (17:48)
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FredericRobinson said:
Weekend ticket and camping pass available if anyone wants them, can email over.
Just set off and hit vehicle trouble.
Sorry to hear about the bad luck.

Are the tickets for 1 person or 2?

FredericRobinson

3,722 posts

233 months

Yesterday (17:57)
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airsafari87 said:
Sorry to hear about the bad luck.

Are the tickets for 1 person or 2?
Just the one