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lawrence567 said:
675 is a very nice bike, how come your regretting it?
Oh I'm not regretting it, it's an amazing bike to ride, so balanced and confidence inspiring, the engine come on song at 10k all the way to 14k but still has good torque from 4k and the brakes are stupidly good. I was just a little underwhelmed by the straight line punch hence thinking about an R1, but I guess I'm spoilt in that my track car will hit 60 in just over 4 seconds so isn't slow.All in all I'd recommend the 675 to anyone, the most beautiful of the current 600 supersports in my opinion and still winning all the group tests.
rsv gone! said:
That probably has more to do with the linear power delivery of the 675, especially compared to the R6 you had previously.
True, but the 675 does come noticeably on song at just north of 10k for a wonderful little rush to the redline. My previous bike was an SV650 so I'm used to flat low deliveries!MarkRSi said:
At the minimum I'd probably be looking at Kawasaki 250R Ninja or if I got on well with the 500 then perhaps an Kawasaki ER-6F? I take it one of these would be acceptable for a first bike? What sort of economy would you get with an ER-6 and similar 600s?
When I passed my test a couple of years ago I got a versys (a tall ER-6 basically - I'm 6'6) - still have it and its great - plenty fast enough to scare me when I first got it - and more than enough to blow the cobwebs away now - did 2K miles in france on it last summer at silly speeds - would be on my way to barcelona on it today if I hadn't bust my knee a fortnight ago (not on the bike) Economy wise - It tends to need about 16l to fill it and it'll do about 200 miles - so whats that 56mpg?
Thanks for the info. 
Had another lesson on the YBR125 today, and was quite surprised to find myself crusing at 60-65mph (nearly flat out) relatively comfortably despite it being quite busy up the A90 north of Aberdeen yesterday evening. I'd got my own jacket/trousers/gloves (helmet is on order) which seemed to help. In fact I found it easier to make progress on most roads and using all 9500 revs (the single cylinder makes quite a nice noise
), which is more than can be said about the other learner I was with who was a splitting image of myself during my CBT. Looks like holding off and getting a (bigger) bike until after the DAS was the best idea
I was expecting to do more low speed stuff, but enjoyed the run out and there was plenty of junctions/roundabouts to practice on anyway.
Had another lesson on the YBR125 today, and was quite surprised to find myself crusing at 60-65mph (nearly flat out) relatively comfortably despite it being quite busy up the A90 north of Aberdeen yesterday evening. I'd got my own jacket/trousers/gloves (helmet is on order) which seemed to help. In fact I found it easier to make progress on most roads and using all 9500 revs (the single cylinder makes quite a nice noise
), which is more than can be said about the other learner I was with who was a splitting image of myself during my CBT. Looks like holding off and getting a (bigger) bike until after the DAS was the best ideaI was expecting to do more low speed stuff, but enjoyed the run out and there was plenty of junctions/roundabouts to practice on anyway.
Edited by MarkRSi on Wednesday 2nd July 08:27
MarkRSi said:
I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but oh well...
Just did my CBT today, on a Yamaha YBR 125.... f
king hell! The bike just felt so fking fast! Not the acceleration (probably less than my Micra lol), but, just the wind, the fact you don't have a windscreen and 1000kg of metal around. fk! I would have never had thought 50mph on a dual carriage way would feel so fking intense!!!! Heck even 25mph felt quick! 
Exactly the same as me on my CBT. I thought 35mph was scary fast! It was exciting, I loved being out in the open, the wind, etc its great.Just did my CBT today, on a Yamaha YBR 125.... f
king hell! The bike just felt so fking fast! Not the acceleration (probably less than my Micra lol), but, just the wind, the fact you don't have a windscreen and 1000kg of metal around. fk! I would have never had thought 50mph on a dual carriage way would feel so fking intense!!!! Heck even 25mph felt quick! I've owned my CG125 2 days now, and I'm already used to the acceleration and find it slow.
One of my friends has had a 125 for over 2 years now, no idea how he puts up with it for that long!
Everyone talks about power, but what about handling? The 125s are much lighter. Sure that makes them less stable in the wind, but what about flickability? I've got a 500 now, but as I recall the CG125 I used for a couple of lessons on my DAS was certainly more agile on, eg. roundabouts.
I had a 125 for 3 years (from 18-21) whilst waiting to take my DAS,
It was slow (top speed of about 65mph) & sounded like it was going to explode when it was going that fast, it was fun but in the wind i'd get blown about all over the place & i'm not light either!
You'll get a 600 round a roundabout just as easy if not easier as they're so muhc more sturdy and in my opinion balanced!
I sat on a 125cc replica sports bike the other day and it felt like a push bike!
It was slow (top speed of about 65mph) & sounded like it was going to explode when it was going that fast, it was fun but in the wind i'd get blown about all over the place & i'm not light either!
You'll get a 600 round a roundabout just as easy if not easier as they're so muhc more sturdy and in my opinion balanced!
I sat on a 125cc replica sports bike the other day and it felt like a push bike!
Its amazing the different views people have on the size of bikes. I find it funny when non bikers ask me what I ride. When I tell them its a 600, they say "oh thats pretty small my uncle rides an R1". Everyone seems to know someone with an R1 or a Fireblade lol. Would love to see their face if they came on the back of me, wonder if the "oh thats pretty small" comment would still apply!
I also love how everyone considers the 1000's & 1300's to be equivalent in double the speed to 600's you say i have a 600 and they say my matesgot a 1000 or an r1 in reality top end theres only about 30mph in it and maybe half a second 0-60 for road riding it means st as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!
t as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!lawrence567 said:
I also love how everyone considers the 1000's & 1300's to be equivalent in double the speed to 600's you say i have a 600 and they say my matesgot a 1000 or an r1 in reality top end theres only about 30mph in it and maybe half a second 0-60 for road riding it means st as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!
Once you take into account the R1 is geared for close to 100mph in first 0-60 and even 0-100 times are pretty much just who has the best control of slipping the clutch and keeping the front down. My 675 is at 60 in just over 3 and 100 in just over 60, only then will a litre bike start to push on.t as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!jon- said:
lawrence567 said:
I also love how everyone considers the 1000's & 1300's to be equivalent in double the speed to 600's you say i have a 600 and they say my matesgot a 1000 or an r1 in reality top end theres only about 30mph in it and maybe half a second 0-60 for road riding it means st as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!
Once you take into account the R1 is geared for close to 100mph in first 0-60 and even 0-100 times are pretty much just who has the best control of slipping the clutch and keeping the front down. My 675 is at 60 in just over 3 and 100 in just over 60, only then will a litre bike start to push on.t as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!The figures are pretty meaningless as the governing factor to 60 is ability to lay down the power.
But unless you've ridden a 1000 you won't understand just how much faster they are everywhere than a 600. They have almost twice the torque of a 600 (the force that propels you forward) and not much more weight. The gearing tones this down a touch but means you can do 106mph in first!
It is academic as 600cc bikes are fast enough to shatter every limit in the land.
But unless you've ridden a 1000 you won't understand just how much faster they are everywhere than a 600. They have almost twice the torque of a 600 (the force that propels you forward) and not much more weight. The gearing tones this down a touch but means you can do 106mph in first!
It is academic as 600cc bikes are fast enough to shatter every limit in the land.
lawrence567 said:
I also love how everyone considers the 1000's & 1300's to be equivalent in double the speed to 600's you say i have a 600 and they say my matesgot a 1000 or an r1 in reality top end theres only about 30mph in it and maybe half a second 0-60 for road riding it means st as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!
600's don't provide the "any gear/any revs" squirt that litre+ bikes provide.t as your not going to be doing180-200 on a raod too often!
It's scary how you get used to the acceleration & speed. I've recently been riding one of those Ducati's they're trying to ban from British Superbikes, mostly on the track. The big problem is it's practically impossible to abide by the laws of the highway & it won't run smoothly below 40mph. It feels extremely safe though.
I have started to form the opinion that bikes like this have no place on the road, as without many years of experience you're giong to come to a messy end with 1000bhp per tonne. 600's & lazy twins are more fun off the track, Monsters, Tuonos & Buels etc. Unfaired bikes keep you slow because the wind tries to rip you clean off if you
start getting silly.
Am I getting old? Suppose I've been so lucky so many times that I'm starting to think now I've got kids. Until I'm on the bike!
I have started to form the opinion that bikes like this have no place on the road, as without many years of experience you're giong to come to a messy end with 1000bhp per tonne. 600's & lazy twins are more fun off the track, Monsters, Tuonos & Buels etc. Unfaired bikes keep you slow because the wind tries to rip you clean off if you
start getting silly.
Am I getting old? Suppose I've been so lucky so many times that I'm starting to think now I've got kids. Until I'm on the bike!
I am still in the amazed stage by my 600. It still manages to put a massive grin on my face when I wind it on. But I guess its like everything else, after a couple of years I'll be very used to it and want something bigger and quicker. I remember when my RD125 felt like a speeding bullet! lol. Right now tho I can't see myself needing more power than what I already have. It will hit silly speeds within seconds and chasing my mate on his R1, there is hardly anything in it until about 100!
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