So will it be Rossi or Stoner this year?
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100% stoner all the way, unlike the past challengers to Rossi`s crown, this guy has the confidence, natural talent, the tools, nerves of steel, can ride in the wet, dry, technical, twisty fast and slow tracks, and just for good measure is popping fastest laps to make his point.
The earlier blip he experienced gave Rossi and Co an opportunity to clear off, they didnt take it
It will go to the wire with Stoner pipping Rossi to the line by 0.0199secs.
The earlier blip he experienced gave Rossi and Co an opportunity to clear off, they didnt take it
It will go to the wire with Stoner pipping Rossi to the line by 0.0199secs.
Rossi has never had to deal with a challenger like Casey before, Biaggi, Gibernau, Capirossi, Bayliss all fell short, a guy that matched his 11 races in a season, beat him in a 1-2-1 on 2 occaisions last year.
Rossi has tried to pressure Casey, but he just didnt crack. Casey has a mountain to climb, but the M1 is currently no Match for the GP8 and if the bike is working then he will bring it home ahead of Rossi..
Either way, I hope its a fight to the death, with Casey winning of course
Rossi has tried to pressure Casey, but he just didnt crack. Casey has a mountain to climb, but the M1 is currently no Match for the GP8 and if the bike is working then he will bring it home ahead of Rossi..
Either way, I hope its a fight to the death, with Casey winning of course
Rocket Pepper said:
I just don't see the Stoner magic. I see a lot of fuss thrown at 1 Ducati,and Stoner is the lucky lad to be on it. My Mum could win on that thing.
An alternative view may be . . .Stoner has a huge talent as he is the only person that can make that Ducati dance the way it does. Melandri, Elias and Guintoli have access to the same upgrades and tyres but only the sheer talent of Stoner is what's making the difference . .
Seems to remind me of another rider who changed manufacturers and was the only guy who could make it win, now who was that
Johno said:
Melandri, Elias and Guintoli have access to the same upgrades and tyres but only the sheer talent of Stoner is what's making the difference . .
Much lauded by the press and race commentators, and Ducati themselves. But what is the truth? I think Stoner is reaping ALL of Ducatis benefits (pretty much like Schumacher did at Ferrari - remember Irvine within two races of a world title for Ferrari?) and the others are not. Wonder what Capirossi will have to say in years to come. Rocket Pepper said:
I think Stoner is reaping ALL of Ducatis benefits (pretty much like Schumacher did at Ferrari
Uummm like Rossi wanting Bridgestone tyres or he would chuck his teddy bears out of the pramSeems we are bless with 3 riders who have what it takes in Rossi, Stoner and Pedrosa.
If we look at each others team mate rider Stoner we know always smashes his teammate. Pedrosa has now consistently done the same to Nicky Hayden but its never spoken about
Rossi is effectively in a team of 1 because of his tyre choice, this means there cannot be any/little setup sharing and surely this must hinder Burgess
Rocket Pepper said:
Much lauded by the press and race commentators, and Ducati themselves. But what is the truth? .
You can find quotes from each of the other 3 Ducati riders commenting on the latest mapping changes and how it didn't make a difference to them like it did for Rossi.I may concurr that satellite team tyres 'may' not be the same as the factory squads, but electronics upgrades which everyone seems fixated about are very easy to pass on to satellite teams and I believe that Ducati do.
Chassis', swing arms etc do tend to take longer probably.
I also agree the evidence does not suggest that the Ducati is the best bike if you look at rider and championship positions overall.
As for Capirossi he openly admitted he couldn't get on with the 800 at all. Both he and Stoner started last year on the same bike remember . .
Beemer-5 said:
Great though he is, Stoner does have the best bike, as someone a few posts up rightly explained.
lol, ok, so we've already proved it's not the fastest bike on the grid and we know its far from being the most nimble on the grid - so what measure of 'best' are you using? Nicest colour?One thing is for sure, no mater what feat Stoner performs someone will find an excuse for it.
I seem to recall Rossi having what was classed as the `best bike` on the grid in the RCV and won several titles on it, I dont recall anybody having an issue back then.
The idea of Prototype is to make the best all round bike you can within the constraints of Dorna Rules, Ducati strive to do just that, but some people make it sound like they are cheating somehow.
I seem to recall Rossi having what was classed as the `best bike` on the grid in the RCV and won several titles on it, I dont recall anybody having an issue back then.
The idea of Prototype is to make the best all round bike you can within the constraints of Dorna Rules, Ducati strive to do just that, but some people make it sound like they are cheating somehow.
Quinny said:
Beemer-5 said:
Great though he is, Stoner does have the best bike, as someone a few posts up rightly explained.
Really??Why can't Melandri ride it then??
As a package, I'd say the Yams are the best bike. They're consistantly in the top 5 with more than one rider, factory or satelite, Michelin or Bridgestone.
Stoner has the best bike for Stoner, but the best bike on the Grid??? Not in my humble opinion
There's no way on this planet they'd tolerate Melandri being near last if they could do anything about it by giving him the same bike as Stoner has and I don't believe Melandri is as bad a rider as the positions he is achieving. If Stoner's bike was as easy to ride as everyone is making out Melandri would be coming in second. He isn't.
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