Tax disc - pragmatic reality?

Tax disc - pragmatic reality?

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cyberface

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12,214 posts

258 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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When I bought my CBR600 from Budget Bikes in Shoreditch, the sales geezer gave me the bike, which had a two year-old tax disc on it, when I'd been told it had a new MOT and a month's tax left. True to form, the MOT was there, and the tax disc (which expired yesterday) was unopened in with the full service history.

I asked why the current disc wasn't on the bike and he said that 'they always get stolen, so most people don't bother putting the discs on their bikes'.

OK, so I've just bought another year's tax for my bike, and I'm not sure what to do. On my scooters, two of them were stolen before the tax ran out, whereas the other one I didn't bother taxing at all after the first year paperbag and never had a problem (and I rode that thing like a tt as well...)

Is it the 'pragmatic' thing to leave an old disc on the bike, and keep the tax up to date with your documents so ANPR won't flag anything (as it's taxed and insured correctly)??? Or is it just asking for serious trouble? I park the bike in the local car park (no offroad parking for me, unfortunately) and the traffic Nazis are *very* quick at ticketing cars with no tax (I had to argue with the council when I turned up in the morning with a new disc to find I'd already been ticketed, at 7:45 am - they rescinded the ticket but with a 'just this once' schoolmistress attitude, morons) - but my bike has been sitting in the car park for more than a month now with expired tax and no tickets.

I assume that if the police stop me, and I'm not riding like a moron, then 'discretion' will likely get me a producer (in which case I have the correct dated tax disc), or will the police automatically go mental if I claim that I haven't displayed the disc because I don't want it stolen?

Do people really nick tax discs off bikes anyway? Was the sales geezer just leading me up the garden path?

Taita

7,609 posts

204 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Some people have a bit of paper that says 'Disc on rider's person' or keep it in backpack / pillion seat.

Or you could leave the old one on, and have a small cover over the display area, as they can't remove covers to see IIRC.

sjj84

2,390 posts

220 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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I keep mine in my wallet which I have with me when riding anyway.

Busamav

2,954 posts

209 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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sjj84 said:
I keep mine in my wallet which I have with me when riding anyway.
same here , from the day my disc comes in the post it doesnt see daylight for a year .

The cops never ask to see it as they have already done a search for tax and insurance before they stop you

dern

14,055 posts

280 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Mine runs a much greater risk of simply getting lost if it's not on the bike compared to being stolen if it is so it lives on the bike.

cyberface

Original Poster:

12,214 posts

258 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Cool - wallet it is then.

Thanks all
beer

RemaL

24,973 posts

235 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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photo copy it. cut it out and put it on the bike?

xspencex

1,534 posts

237 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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RemaL said:
photo copy it. cut it out and put it on the bike?
Perfect.. and keep the real one in the wallet...

shouldbworking

4,769 posts

213 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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What part of the country are you in to suffer from this? just about to get my first bike and it hadnt even occured to me that people might steal it... after all, it has a registration number on it that wouldnt match the plate

RemaL

24,973 posts

235 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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xspencex said:
RemaL said:
photo copy it. cut it out and put it on the bike?
Perfect.. and keep the real one in the wallet...
my thoughts, then you don't get any problems from the police. only downer is some daft tt might and try to nick the copy but at least your got the original.


RemaL

24,973 posts

235 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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shouldbworking said:
What part of the country are you in to suffer from this? just about to get my first bike and it hadnt even occured to me that people might steal it... after all, it has a registration number on it that wouldnt match the plate
not had this myself in the Bristol area since in the pst 2 years

cyberface

Original Poster:

12,214 posts

258 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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shouldbworking said:
What part of the country are you in to suffer from this? just about to get my first bike and it hadnt even occured to me that people might steal it... after all, it has a registration number on it that wouldnt match the plate
Shoreditch is just east of the City in London. Walk out of the City on Bishopsgate and you get there within half a mile. I don't live anywhere near there - I live in Kent, 40 miles away - so this 'stealing tax discs' thing may just be a dodgy-bit-of-London thing...

Which was why I asked really smile

Hyperion

15,246 posts

201 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Get a disk holder that screws together. If you don't display the disk, you run the risk of getting a fine from a passing bored traffic warden or BiB.

Rick448

1,677 posts

225 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Been riding for nearly 30 years and never had one stolen yet. I'd rather not give them a chance to nick me so I display mine. As far as i'm aware the offence of not displaying is as bad as not having it in the first place!

RizzoTheRat

25,190 posts

193 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Talking to a bike copper some time back and he was saying he keeps his in his wallet.

In theory you'd need a spanner to remove the holder from my brake caliper bolt, but if a thief put his mind to it I'm sure it wouldn't be too had to snap off, however I've never had one nicked in 10 years riding. Don't live in a city though and the bike's garaged at night.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

191 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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May I draw your attention to this thread I started on (whisper) another forum regarding my woes with not displaying tax: http://bike.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=11275&am...

YZF600R

4,121 posts

209 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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I have a colour copy on the bike which is copied on a very high quality laser printer (Inkjet will run if a spec of water gets on it and look obvious!). Looks indistinguishable from the original unless you're about 6" away.

I keep the real one at home as I can't be bothered keeping it in my wallet as I'd probably lose it.

Has stood me well for eight years smile


Rocket Pepper

1,281 posts

217 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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Take a look at Oberon Engineering's tax disc holders.

steven182

1,886 posts

202 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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I haven't displayed a tax disc on my car for 2 years now. never had an issue they check all that electronically now. and if I do get pulled it is in my glove box. The bike has it on but I can't see that so leave it where it is. never thought someone might nick it. whats the point in nicking it, it only taxes your vehicle not any vehicle.

jokeruk

97 posts

189 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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I've never had mine nicked in all the time that i've been riding - maybe its a location thing.

At the end of the day, if it does get nicked - get a replacement.