Rider Training
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Hi. I need some advice about which type of training you would recommend.One option is the California Superbike School which I think will improve bike control,posistion on the bike etc and cornering, in so doing making me better at understanding what the bike is doing underneath me.
This is from what I have seen on their new TV program and web site, the downside is this is all track based and its expensive,
The other option is something like the ride /drive course which is a road training course.This seems to show you how to plan better for corners , overtaking and general better riding .This sounds great but is it better to go on the superbike school first to make sure you are riding the bike properly in the first place ie counter stearing ,standing the bike up coming out of corners and again body position.
I have done several tracks days where I was in the intermediates but I don't think this has improved my road riding that much,
In an ideal world I would do both but I can't do that at the moment.
Thanks Chris
This is from what I have seen on their new TV program and web site, the downside is this is all track based and its expensive,
The other option is something like the ride /drive course which is a road training course.This seems to show you how to plan better for corners , overtaking and general better riding .This sounds great but is it better to go on the superbike school first to make sure you are riding the bike properly in the first place ie counter stearing ,standing the bike up coming out of corners and again body position.
I have done several tracks days where I was in the intermediates but I don't think this has improved my road riding that much,
In an ideal world I would do both but I can't do that at the moment.
Thanks Chris
From my experience, and talking to others, the view on ‘open road’ speed limits is down to the specific instructor/examiner/observer. Town speed limits must be observed by all. No organisation can say that they are in favor of trainees breaking any speed limit so it’s a ‘luck of the draw’ thing. However, most of the training I have done has been on raods where getting up to the speed limit safely is an achievement in its self.
Having been riding on the road since my 16th birthday,Suzuki AP50 I have had a road bike most years of my life,46 now.After 7 years as a Motorcycle Courier,I obviously picked up many bad habits.In 2002 I took the Honda MAC coarse.My Instructor was a Police Motorcyclist known to me,it was a three day course,mostly in ice as it was February.Well,it changed my riding completely,and I believe has kept me alive,as I probably do 20,000 miles a year on bikes.I have since done two track days,which I have to admit I was quite poor on,but on the road a different story.Friends ask for me to take them out,my one mate enrolled on Bike Safe two weeks ago,and I followed him to Llandovery last weekend,he was near perfect.
The Police Motorcyclists are the best on British roads,take a course run by them,it will change your life,we even look forward to riding in bad conditions to improve our wet weather riding.Enjoy.
The Police Motorcyclists are the best on British roads,take a course run by them,it will change your life,we even look forward to riding in bad conditions to improve our wet weather riding.Enjoy.
Another vote for the road based training, did my IAM test some years back, learned a load.
As I understand it...
Bikesafe: Half/one day observed ride with serving copper, generally free or very cheap. Well worth doing as an introduction to that kind of thing and see if you enjoy it.
IAM: Run as clubs so generally very cheap, observed rides to get you up to a standard to pass the IAM test. The lot I'm with assign you an observer and you arrange rides with them whenever the two of you like and all it costs you is £20ish/year membership fee, coffee for your observer, and the £50ish test fee.
RoSPA: Bit more expensive than IAM but you get graded Bronze/Silver/Gold in the test, RoSPA Silver is equivilent to IAM gold.
IAM and RoSPA passes will both get you a discount with most insurance comanies too.
The IAM also run track based training days so they must also think it improves our road riding.
As I understand it...
Bikesafe: Half/one day observed ride with serving copper, generally free or very cheap. Well worth doing as an introduction to that kind of thing and see if you enjoy it.
IAM: Run as clubs so generally very cheap, observed rides to get you up to a standard to pass the IAM test. The lot I'm with assign you an observer and you arrange rides with them whenever the two of you like and all it costs you is £20ish/year membership fee, coffee for your observer, and the £50ish test fee.
RoSPA: Bit more expensive than IAM but you get graded Bronze/Silver/Gold in the test, RoSPA Silver is equivilent to IAM gold.
IAM and RoSPA passes will both get you a discount with most insurance comanies too.
The IAM also run track based training days so they must also think it improves our road riding.
Regarding track v. road training - if you get the right road instructor he can sort your riding position out too. What do you want to achieve? Be safer on road, faster on track, more comfortable everywhere.
I agree with the general consensus however - do some decent road training.
IAM - Enthusiastic but a low standard.
ROSPA - Cocky and love showing off. Wish they were coppers!
BikeSafe - depends which region you hook up with. I started a BikeSafe course a few weekends ago but got bored and frustrated so quickly pulled out. The breaking point for me was when someone said that there goal for the weekend was to learn how to get their bike on its centre-stand!
That lot said there is good rider training available. None better than:
Rapid Training
I agree with the general consensus however - do some decent road training.
IAM - Enthusiastic but a low standard.
ROSPA - Cocky and love showing off. Wish they were coppers!
BikeSafe - depends which region you hook up with. I started a BikeSafe course a few weekends ago but got bored and frustrated so quickly pulled out. The breaking point for me was when someone said that there goal for the weekend was to learn how to get their bike on its centre-stand!
That lot said there is good rider training available. None better than:
Rapid Training
Edited by R1_NUR on Thursday 2nd October 12:00
castrolcraig said:
im doing my dsa enhanced rider course atm, well worth it and no matter how good you are you can always learn something new..
Ditto. Gives you 10% off your insurance from most of the big bike insurers.I will probably join my local IAM group when I have my ERS completed, then work towards IAM standard.
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hi ,quite fancy the ROSPA course but need to find a local instructor,
IAM do a run every sunday morning from kidderminster so I think ill pop up there for a chat (if I can get up for 8am )
The ride /drive have an instructor in bromsgrove but doesn't give any info about him untill you book a course .
The other problem is that after about 130 miles im knackered as the MV isn't the most comfortable of bikes ,so i think I need training with regular stops.
Or grow up and get a sensible bike
IAM do a run every sunday morning from kidderminster so I think ill pop up there for a chat (if I can get up for 8am )
The ride /drive have an instructor in bromsgrove but doesn't give any info about him untill you book a course .
The other problem is that after about 130 miles im knackered as the MV isn't the most comfortable of bikes ,so i think I need training with regular stops.
Or grow up and get a sensible bike
black-k1 said:
RizzoTheRat said:
The IAM also run track based training days so they must also think it improves our road riding.
Or they just enjoy a thrash around a track like most people but want to know the calibre of nutter who is on the track with them!!!!!
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