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right, i have shortlisted the bikes i want to two.
a brand spanking new 2008 CBR125R on finance with 0% for 2 years. £2700 total payable but comes with 2 year warrenty. (plus services for 2 years i think, but dont hold me to that)
or
a 1993 NRS125 with 28000 miles for £945, no warranty or anything, its from a private seller. have to get a loan which i might not even be approved for.
help me deside, i know the CBR might be a bit pricey for a first bike, but it comes with the added warranty for 2 years and finance, plus i probably will keep it after i pass my DAS and get a big bike as a spare so would like something that is good to live with.
(both will be on fully comp btw so if i bin it down the road it 'SHOULD' be replaced)
help please
a brand spanking new 2008 CBR125R on finance with 0% for 2 years. £2700 total payable but comes with 2 year warrenty. (plus services for 2 years i think, but dont hold me to that)
or
a 1993 NRS125 with 28000 miles for £945, no warranty or anything, its from a private seller. have to get a loan which i might not even be approved for.
help me deside, i know the CBR might be a bit pricey for a first bike, but it comes with the added warranty for 2 years and finance, plus i probably will keep it after i pass my DAS and get a big bike as a spare so would like something that is good to live with.
(both will be on fully comp btw so if i bin it down the road it 'SHOULD' be replaced)
help please
at least a few months while i get used to riding, i will be using it to get to a job, so a while, im not to bothered about selling it because after i start work i will just save and buy another bigger bike outright and keep the 125 for when its breaks/i bin it or i am working on it and i need a part.
probably 6 months or more.
probably 6 months or more.
Edited by steveo29 on Saturday 4th October 23:19
Quite different bikes in some ways.
NSR is a 2-stroke so potentially will be more fun (especially derestricted) than the 4-stroke CBR125r which is designed for around 15bhp ish (at a guess)
NSR is gonna be 15 years old and being a 2-stroke etc, you really are gonna need to enjoy playing with spanners as it's pretty likely to need playing with a good few times.
It really depends what you want... CBR is gonna be 100 times more dependable but it's gonna cost you for the privilege and personally i think they are a bit bland on the power delivery.
I like tinkering with bikes so i'd probably go for a 2-stroke but if it was me i'd broaden my search to 2nd-hand Aprilla RS125's etc. But you have to buy with you're eyes open.
NSR is a 2-stroke so potentially will be more fun (especially derestricted) than the 4-stroke CBR125r which is designed for around 15bhp ish (at a guess)
NSR is gonna be 15 years old and being a 2-stroke etc, you really are gonna need to enjoy playing with spanners as it's pretty likely to need playing with a good few times.
It really depends what you want... CBR is gonna be 100 times more dependable but it's gonna cost you for the privilege and personally i think they are a bit bland on the power delivery.
I like tinkering with bikes so i'd probably go for a 2-stroke but if it was me i'd broaden my search to 2nd-hand Aprilla RS125's etc. But you have to buy with you're eyes open.
steveo29 said:
as said i am not too bothered about selling, if i like it i will keep for a long time.
also why would it be hard to sell??
I can pretty much guarantee once you get a bigger bike you will not be bothered about riding a 125, unless you are going to try and absolutely perfect your skills to the last inch on a track day on it.also why would it be hard to sell??
It's hard to sell because whilst a bike is still on finance, you don't actually legally own it and it can be repossessed.
Well perhaps it's worth looking on a different tack.. Get a plodder of a 125.. You know.. CG125 type stuff, Get you're test done, buy a bigger bike then either sell the 'CG' for the same peanuts you paid for it or keep it in the garage for a rainy day.
Of the options you've already said,
NSR etc is gonna be too risky on the spanners front.
CBR125r is gonna cost you too much money for a bike you want short-term.
As others have said, once you're riding a bigger bike you're 125 will be relegated to the history books.
Of the options you've already said,
NSR etc is gonna be too risky on the spanners front.
CBR125r is gonna cost you too much money for a bike you want short-term.
As others have said, once you're riding a bigger bike you're 125 will be relegated to the history books.
ahh yes i agree a bit with what you say.
but there is something i like with being able to push a bike/car/pushbike to its limits, and a 125 you can, whereas either the RVF400 or ninja i am going to get when i pass you cant really push them to the limits on roads without coming a cropper or as easy
but there is something i like with being able to push a bike/car/pushbike to its limits, and a 125 you can, whereas either the RVF400 or ninja i am going to get when i pass you cant really push them to the limits on roads without coming a cropper or as easy
If by 'limits' you mean 'redline it', then you can push any bike to it's limits on it's road. I must note that redlining stuff doesn't exactly do wonders for the engines or resale value and unless it's tuned properly it's not going to have much power at the redline!
If by 'limits' you mean anything else - handling, cornering, movement, you won't be able to push a 125 to it's limits even after a years riding more than any other bike. As the saying goes, a good 125 rider can (and people regularly do) beat a crap R1 rider around a track. Just because you think you're 'pushing it' on a 125, it doesn't mean you are pushing the bike, it means you're pushing YOU!
PS. I can assure you that you can push a RVF400 to it's limits on the road if you're good enough, you'd just have to be stupid enough to.
If by 'limits' you mean anything else - handling, cornering, movement, you won't be able to push a 125 to it's limits even after a years riding more than any other bike. As the saying goes, a good 125 rider can (and people regularly do) beat a crap R1 rider around a track. Just because you think you're 'pushing it' on a 125, it doesn't mean you are pushing the bike, it means you're pushing YOU!
PS. I can assure you that you can push a RVF400 to it's limits on the road if you're good enough, you'd just have to be stupid enough to.
umm...ok....
think like this, a 1.1 fiesta take a lot to go anywere and say.... an audi RS4 will, to get the same speed only need a little bit.
same for cornering, the fiesta will only go so fast round a corner whereas the audi will corner the same speed with ease.
i think i have kinda explained what i ment.
think like this, a 1.1 fiesta take a lot to go anywere and say.... an audi RS4 will, to get the same speed only need a little bit.
same for cornering, the fiesta will only go so fast round a corner whereas the audi will corner the same speed with ease.
i think i have kinda explained what i ment.
Either way, without getting too technical about it, once you're riding a 400 etc the 125 will just gather dust. I remember getting my ZZR600 when i passed my test and for the first week i never took it about about 7k and it felt like a nuclear missile but before long i felt very comfortable on it.
I'm not suggesting every bike you ride you should ride at the limits of the bike, just saying that at the end of the day the ease of power and better dynamics of the bigger bike will make the 125 feel like a toy.
If you're planning to take you're test soon its pretty pointless investing alot of money on a 'learner legal' bike
I'm not suggesting every bike you ride you should ride at the limits of the bike, just saying that at the end of the day the ease of power and better dynamics of the bigger bike will make the 125 feel like a toy.
If you're planning to take you're test soon its pretty pointless investing alot of money on a 'learner legal' bike
aye, think i will go with the NSR125 or TZR125, both about the same sort of power, and learn a bit of spanner work.
it will prolly work out better in the long run if i learn a bit about how to service and work on bikes and not spend too much on a first bike as, as you said it will just be gathering dusk when i get a big bike and loose money that i dont have to spend out in the first place.
it will prolly work out better in the long run if i learn a bit about how to service and work on bikes and not spend too much on a first bike as, as you said it will just be gathering dusk when i get a big bike and loose money that i dont have to spend out in the first place.
steveo29 said:
aye, think i will go with the NSR125 or TZR125, both about the same sort of power, and learn a bit of spanner work.
it will prolly work out better in the long run if i learn a bit about how to service and work on bikes and not spend too much on a first bike as, as you said it will just be gathering dusk when i get a big bike and loose money that i dont have to spend out in the first place.
Good Call... Go for it! it will prolly work out better in the long run if i learn a bit about how to service and work on bikes and not spend too much on a first bike as, as you said it will just be gathering dusk when i get a big bike and loose money that i dont have to spend out in the first place.
Fire99 said:
steveo29 said:
aye, think i will go with the NSR125 or TZR125, both about the same sort of power, and learn a bit of spanner work.
it will prolly work out better in the long run if i learn a bit about how to service and work on bikes and not spend too much on a first bike as, as you said it will just be gathering dusk when i get a big bike and loose money that i dont have to spend out in the first place.
Good Call... Go for it! it will prolly work out better in the long run if i learn a bit about how to service and work on bikes and not spend too much on a first bike as, as you said it will just be gathering dusk when i get a big bike and loose money that i dont have to spend out in the first place.
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