Remember the Fast Bike Videos ( some bad language )

[y2blade]

black-k1 said:

y2blade said:

Scottman said:

psychoR1 said:

These vids were shot over 10yrs ago in the days when you could 'get' away with it. They helped sell a lot of Hyabruisers and R1s.
Some of the posters on here should go back go polishing their scooters and reading the Daily (schoolteacher) Mail.
The superbikes trips inspired me to go to France and further a field and ride some of those roads. My chosen pace on an (R1) is slightly slower..but would I am sure make some of you choke on your cornflakes.
If you never break the speed limit then lecture away from your sanctimonious pulpit to those that are interested

I agree, well said! I say again, was all about having fun!!

Plus don't forget the contribution they made to racing....without Fast Bikes initial support (Well done Mr Schiller) Shane 'Shakey' Burne may not have had the illustrious career he has had thus far..............

Those who call the Fast Bikes crew irresponsible idiots, should remember that the current BSB Champion was one of them!! Along with Rob Frost, Gary Mason etc!!

agreed ^^^

For me, their skill on the track is not in question. Their maturity with regards to riding on the road is!

IT WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!! since the last FASTBIKE video was filmed

i doubt they ride like that on the road now! attitudes have changed and now riding like that on the road is seen as akin to drink driving as you have proved

Edited by y2blade on Monday 17th November 13:33

[black-k1]

y2blade said:

black-k1 said:

y2blade said:

Scottman said:

psychoR1 said:

These vids were shot over 10yrs ago in the days when you could 'get' away with it. They helped sell a lot of Hyabruisers and R1s.
Some of the posters on here should go back go polishing their scooters and reading the Daily (schoolteacher) Mail.
The superbikes trips inspired me to go to France and further a field and ride some of those roads. My chosen pace on an (R1) is slightly slower..but would I am sure make some of you choke on your cornflakes.
If you never break the speed limit then lecture away from your sanctimonious pulpit to those that are interested

I agree, well said! I say again, was all about having fun!!

Plus don't forget the contribution they made to racing....without Fast Bikes initial support (Well done Mr Schiller) Shane 'Shakey' Burne may not have had the illustrious career he has had thus far..............

Those who call the Fast Bikes crew irresponsible idiots, should remember that the current BSB Champion was one of them!! Along with Rob Frost, Gary Mason etc!!

agreed ^^^

For me, their skill on the track is not in question. Their maturity with regards to riding on the road is!

IT WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!! since the last FASTBIKE video was filmed

i doubt they ride like that on the road now! attitudes have changed and now riding like that on the road is seen as akin to drink driving as you have proved

Edited by y2blade on Monday 17th November 13:33

I know it was about 10 years ago that these were filmed, but I thought the same 10 years ago as I do now. What the FB videos show (particularly the V-twin video) is excessive ‘hooning’ in situations that I believe are not suitable for such excessive hooning. Whether we like it or not, most road users (even the French) have a right to expect other road users to behave in a reasonably sensible manor, and it is the number of other road users who are cut up, made to brake/swerve with no reason other than to allow for a small number of bikers to ‘have some fun’ that I feel is inappropriate. Remember that, in the space of 3 days, they managed to smash up 3 bikes and put one person in the hospital. Does such a record really convey the sort of message about motorcycling that we would all want conveyed, even to other motorcyclists?

What is shown on the videos IS as bad as drink driving and should be treated in a similar way. In my view it is just as likely to end up with someone dead or hurt.

Just to be clear (for those that haven’t done any homework on the subject), I do not have a problem in principal with speeding. I also don’t have an issue with general stunts although I do think that, for all of these, there is a right time, a right place and a right level. There is a video on my profile of me a few years ago enjoying the superb roads in the South of France so anyone who wants to can see that I have fun on a bike as much as anyone else. I would suggest that much of that ride was … er …… slightly above the speed limit. (by less than 10% officer, honest!!!)

[trumpet600]

I've just had all my bikes restricted to 30mph. Hopefully it will set a trend and we will all live to be 112.

[black-k1]

trumpet600 said:

I've just had all my bikes restricted to 30mph. Hopefully it will set a trend and we will all live to be 112.

You mean you won’t have a man with a read flag in front? If you go above 20mph you will be unable to breath!!!!!!!!

[podman]

black-k1 said:

I know it was about 10 years ago that these were filmed, but I thought the same 10 years ago as I do now. What the FB videos show (particularly the V-twin video) is excessive ‘hooning’ in situations that I BELIEVE are not suitable for such excessive hooning. .

There is a video on my profile of me a few years ago enjoying the superb roads in the South of France so anyone who wants to can see that I have fun on a bike as much as anyone else. I would suggest that much of that ride was … er …… slightly above the speed limit. (by less than 10% officer, honest!!!)

So what your saying is YOU BELIEVE they where being irresponsible at the time but your "naughty vid is OK because YOU BELIEVE as such..

Your not any different to the FB crew, its just that your little vid didnt make the public domain but both could be viewed as having the same impact to said Daily Mail reader

What a hypocrite, go and preach your b.s elsewhere mate.

[y2blade]

podman said:

black-k1 said:

I know it was about 10 years ago that these were filmed, but I thought the same 10 years ago as I do now. What the FB videos show (particularly the V-twin video) is excessive ‘hooning’ in situations that I BELIEVE are not suitable for such excessive hooning. .

There is a video on my profile of me a few years ago enjoying the superb roads in the South of France so anyone who wants to can see that I have fun on a bike as much as anyone else. I would suggest that much of that ride was … er …… slightly above the speed limit. (by less than 10% officer, honest!!!)

So what your saying is YOU BELIEVE they where being irresponsible at the time but your "naughty vid is OK because YOU BELIEVE as such..

Your not any different to the FB crew, its just that your little vid didnt make the public domain but both could be viewed as having the same impact to said Daily Mail reader

What a hypocrite, go and preach your b.s elsewhere mate.

i read it like that too

[y2blade]

think of the kittens!!!! every time you wheelie god kills one

[black-k1]

podman said:

black-k1 said:

I know it was about 10 years ago that these were filmed, but I thought the same 10 years ago as I do now. What the FB videos show (particularly the V-twin video) is excessive ‘hooning’ in situations that I BELIEVE are not suitable for such excessive hooning. .

There is a video on my profile of me a few years ago enjoying the superb roads in the South of France so anyone who wants to can see that I have fun on a bike as much as anyone else. I would suggest that much of that ride was … er …… slightly above the speed limit. (by less than 10% officer, honest!!!)

So what your saying is YOU BELIEVE they where being irresponsible at the time but your "naughty vid is OK because YOU BELIEVE as such..

Your not any different to the FB crew, its just that your little vid didnt make the public domain but both could be viewed as having the same impact to said Daily Mail reader

What a hypocrite, go and preach your b.s elsewhere mate.

What I’m saying is that the riding shown in the FB video is not what most would consider to be having fun but would actually fall well within the UK court definition of dangerous driving. I would be happy for a court to review my video with the only real fear being that I might end up with a speeding ticket. In my view that is VERY different!

[y2blade]

does anyone else remember the very first PB video that they showed on the stand at the NEC (it was never sold) it featured some guy cracking on a bit on a ZZR1100....it was the biggest crowd ive seen around a stand at any bike show no-one had seen anything like it before


superb

[3doorPete]

These guys are highly skilled, riding within their high limits (except for the crash...ahem) and talking up the danger etc for the dramatic effect. Don't forget, they are doing run after run on those sections of roads before they film it and 2 of the riders are now national/world class riders. Try an on board TT experience for true cracking on on the road.

I think those going on about speed limits and respect for other road users don't know how good we already have it in the UK.

Try driving/riding in
a) India
b) Southern Italy
c) Dominican Republic
if you want to have your perceptions of what's acceptible on the road reset.

On those pedestrian free roads on the video (and their motorway wheelying antics) who are they really risking - themselves basically.

You don't see mountaineers, arctic explorers and round the world yachtsmen being told off and banned for being irresponsible and arguably they risk others lives more when rescue workers have to head out to hazardous places when it goes wrong for them.

Plus - stop hammering Daily Mail readers all. It's the Observer and Guardian readers that have a far more insidious and regulatory effect on our society than Mail readers ever will. :-)

[psychoR1]

Sorry if any Daily Mail or Cornflake eaters were offended by my posting. I must say when I was riding the ardeche, route napoleon and N11 before they built the Millau bridge I allways received a warm reception from those Frenchies. Its because they are a biking nation with free spirit. They are not indoctrinated with antibike preconceptions like mrblackK1.
Things have calmed down in France because of those eurocrats.But to everyone reading this I would say get on your bike, ride the route napoleon or the ardeche (when its quiet) or better still the the south side of the pyrenees or an autobahn. Because that is what your superbike was really designed for - NOT riding round in circles on a track and topping out at 140. Experience the feeling of the wind trying to tear your leathers off your back at 160+ and experience the blured vision and eyeball ratling from following your mates at that speed.
Above all ride your bike in a way that makes you feel alive because that is what sets you apart from those that don't!

[y2blade]

psychoR1 said:

Above all ride your bike in a way that makes you feel alive because that is what sets you apart from those that don't!

never A truer word

[black-k1]

psychoR1 said:

Sorry if any Daily Mail or Cornflake eaters were offended by my posting. I must say when I was riding the ardeche, route napoleon and N11 before they built the Millau bridge I allways received a warm reception from those Frenchies. Its because they are a biking nation with free spirit. They are not indoctrinated with antibike preconceptions like mrblackK1.
Things have calmed down in France because of those eurocrats.But to everyone reading this I would say get on your bike, ride the route napoleon or the ardeche (when its quiet) or better still the the south side of the pyrenees or an autobahn. Because that is what your superbike was really designed for - NOT riding round in circles on a track and topping out at 140. Experience the feeling of the wind trying to tear your leathers off your back at 160+ and experience the blured vision and eyeball ratling from following your mates at that speed.
Above all ride your bike in a way that makes you feel alive because that is what sets you apart from those that don't!

Me indoctrinated with antibike preconceptions ... your 'aving a larf!

[podman]

y2blade said:

does anyone else remember the very first PB video that they showed on the stand at the NEC (it was never sold) it featured some guy cracking on a bit on a ZZR1100....it was the biggest crowd ive seen around a stand at any bike show no-one had seen anything like it before


superb

That I do, Mark Forsyth rode the ZZR(and later binned it at high speed racing a bi-plane down a runway, as you do...) and I think Rupert Paul rode the very first EXUP in the same vid as well, im pretty sure it was on sale..

[y2blade]

podman said:

y2blade said:

does anyone else remember the very first PB video that they showed on the stand at the NEC (it was never sold) it featured some guy cracking on a bit on a ZZR1100....it was the biggest crowd ive seen around a stand at any bike show no-one had seen anything like it before


superb

That I do, Mark Forsyth rode the ZZR(and later binned it at high speed racing a bi-plane down a runway, as you do...) and I think Rupert Paul rode the very first EXUP in the same vid as well, im pretty sure it was on sale..

thats right it was Mark Forsyth....they NEVER did put that video on sale..trust me, if they did i'd have bought it as soon as it hit the magazine


if i'm wrong then good to hear it and show me where i can get a copy please, i have all the FastBikes videos and all the Performance Bikes ones too

[psychoR1]

So Black-K1 said Me indoctrinated with antibike preconceptions ... your 'aving a larf!

- OK maybe you're not but you came across that way - my opinion......

BTW - I took the trouble to look at your old boys website and read the line "As, at one point, the speedo is showing over 160mph no information as to bike or rider is shown but they and we know who they are...8*)"

I do hope you gave your mate a stiff telling off as I bet they caused some some poor Magda to choke on her bratwurst with such naughty antics in the fatherland!

But hang on surely such an atrocity isn’t fit for public consumption - as you say about the FB vids?

Are there some dual standards being exercised here? or was your mate with the camera some BSB/MGP/WSB God?

As someone said - What a hypocrite, go and preach your b.s elsewhere mate.

[black-k1]

psychoR1 said:

So Black-K1 said Me indoctrinated with antibike preconceptions ... your 'aving a larf!

- OK maybe you're not but you came across that way - my opinion......

BTW - I took the trouble to look at your old boys website and read the line "As, at one point, the speedo is showing over 160mph no information as to bike or rider is shown but they and we know who they are...8*)"

I do hope you gave your mate a stiff telling off as I bet they caused some some poor Magda to choke on her bratwurst with such naughty antics in the fatherland!

But hang on surely such an atrocity isn’t fit for public consumption - as you say about the FB vids?

Are there some dual standards being exercised here? or was your mate with the camera some BSB/MGP/WSB God?

As someone said - What a hypocrite, go and preach your b.s elsewhere mate.

Please explain at what point I have been a hypocrite? I have never had a problem with speeding (please read my numerous previous posts on the subject) within a degree of reason. (160 on a clear open road with good visibility would be OK in my books but 160 through a town – no chance.)

What I have a problem with is ‘dangerous driving’ and a lack of consideration for others. What I see of the FB videos are bikers who perform maneuvers that I consider to be clearly in the ‘dangerous driving’ category and a total lack of consideration for others be they other road users or those that actually have to pay for the bikes that the FB team managed to bend seriously at an average of 1 bike per day in the V-twin video!

Edited by black-k1 on Tuesday 18th November 21:31

[996 sps]

black-k1 said:

podman said:

black-k1 said:

I know it was about 10 years ago that these were filmed, but I thought the same 10 years ago as I do now. What the FB videos show (particularly the V-twin video) is excessive ‘hooning’ in situations that I BELIEVE are not suitable for such excessive hooning. .

There is a video on my profile of me a few years ago enjoying the superb roads in the South of France so anyone who wants to can see that I have fun on a bike as much as anyone else. I would suggest that much of that ride was … er …… slightly above the speed limit. (by less than 10% officer, honest!!!)

So what your saying is YOU BELIEVE they where being irresponsible at the time but your "naughty vid is OK because YOU BELIEVE as such..

Your not any different to the FB crew, its just that your little vid didnt make the public domain but both could be viewed as having the same impact to said Daily Mail reader

What a hypocrite, go and preach your b.s elsewhere mate.

What I’m saying is that the riding shown in the FB video is not what most would consider to be having fun but would actually fall well within the UK court definition of dangerous driving. I would be happy for a court to review my video with the only real fear being that I might end up with a speeding ticket. In my view that is VERY different!

You'll end up with a speeding ticket as you don't have the skill of Frosty and Shakey doing stand ups and rear wheel slides on a busa and black bird! These videos where superb, and also assisted me in buying my Gixer 6 and Y2 Blade as they ragged them through France in their videos, I see its already been mentioned about the crowd of people at the NEC around Fast Bikes stand laughing and chuckling at the behaviour of the FB crew...........

Those day ended now due to the usual boring factors of people like K1 oh no I take that back as you where speeding in France!

[y2blade]

996 sps said:

black-k1 said:

podman said:

black-k1 said:

I know it was about 10 years ago that these were filmed, but I thought the same 10 years ago as I do now. What the FB videos show (particularly the V-twin video) is excessive ‘hooning’ in situations that I BELIEVE are not suitable for such excessive hooning. .

There is a video on my profile of me a few years ago enjoying the superb roads in the South of France so anyone who wants to can see that I have fun on a bike as much as anyone else. I would suggest that much of that ride was … er …… slightly above the speed limit. (by less than 10% officer, honest!!!)

So what your saying is YOU BELIEVE they where being irresponsible at the time but your "naughty vid is OK because YOU BELIEVE as such..

Your not any different to the FB crew, its just that your little vid didnt make the public domain but both could be viewed as having the same impact to said Daily Mail reader

What a hypocrite, go and preach your b.s elsewhere mate.

What I’m saying is that the riding shown in the FB video is not what most would consider to be having fun but would actually fall well within the UK court definition of dangerous driving. I would be happy for a court to review my video with the only real fear being that I might end up with a speeding ticket. In my view that is VERY different!

You'll end up with a speeding ticket as you don't have the skill of Frosty and Shakey doing stand ups and rear wheel slides on a busa and black bird! These videos where superb, and also assisted me in buying my Gixer 6 and Y2 Blade as they ragged them through France in their videos, I see its already been mentioned about the crowd of people at the NEC around Fast Bikes stand laughing and chuckling at the behaviour of the FB crew...........

Those day ended now due to the usual boring factors of people like K1 oh no I take that back as you where speeding in France!

it was the way the Y2 fireblade stood up to the abuse that made me want it...the engine is honed from granit and loves to be spanked, wheelied and generaly bossed about like a good'un

yeah those days are well and truely over now

[psychoR1]

I agree - I bought the R1 after seeing from the FB crew what these bikes were really capable of. Calais to Cannes was a legend.
The vids sure helped shift some bikes!
Its all over now tho and isnt the world a safer place!