After looking at a bike mag, i have to ask. '09 Fireblade ..

After looking at a bike mag, i have to ask. '09 Fireblade ..

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castrolcraig

18,073 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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bloodt hell are they london prices or what??

2009 non abs fireblade at jack machin in lincoln is 8999, repsol and hrc 9300...

Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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castrolcraig said:
bloodt hell are they london prices or what??

2009 non abs fireblade at jack machin in lincoln is 8999, repsol and hrc 9300...
local dealership mate, way north of lincoln too. The chap said there was a price rise very recently, and will be another in April.

He did offer me a very good deal on the number 12/100 ltd edition Brogie rep he's got in, and is getting an HRC in on Tuesday, so all is forgiven, but they're bastid expensive this year.
KTM have also jacked prices up, and slowed down production.

edited, just remembered 9600 for HRC, 9700 for Repsol.

Edited by Stu R on Sunday 25th January 11:23

Beemer-5

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7,897 posts

215 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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castrolcraig said:
yam top?? at 10k it would have to be monumentally better than the honda, sazook and kwaka for that sorta cash.

for me looks wise it is.

kwak, honda, sazook, yam

riding,

based on 2008 bikes as no average bloke who's not paid to rave about it hasnt ridden it yet.

blade, kwak, sazook, yam
Riding, it'll be the Yamaha, Craig.
Best engine, best powerband, best updates, etc.
Going by several American magazines.

Beemer-5

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Sunday 25th January 2009
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Stu R said:
castrolcraig said:
yam top?? at 10k it would have to be monumentally better than the honda, sazook and kwaka for that sorta cash.

for me looks wise it is.

kwak, honda, sazook, yam

riding,

based on 2008 bikes as no average bloke who's not paid to rave about it hasnt ridden it yet.

blade, kwak, sazook, yam
Honda are putting their prices up too (again) according to my local dealership.
New blade with ABS will be 10500 from april on, the non-ABS I think the dealer mentioned was 10200, Repsol high 9's, HRC 9600 etc. Suzuki dealer reckon the new GSXR is going to be somewhere between 9500 and 10000 etc.

So basically it's not looking as radically overpriced as it once did as dealers are giving firm quotes of <10200 for the R1.

They're getting bloody expensive I know that much!
The bottom line is that they are all around £10K.
The same as they were 10 years ago.

We have never had so much performance and technology and handling and braking for so LITTLE money.
At £10K, the Yamaha is a steal.
As is the Honda!

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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get the brogie blade stu, i can get you some genuine brogie bits to go on it then.

ps can we wangle press bikes through your new venture??biggrin

Beemer-5

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215 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Craig, the Honda is meant to be a stunningly good bike, too.
I just like the Yamaha approach this year to keeping power output sky high whilst developing a method of better using that power.

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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whats the actual wet weight of the new r1 ian?? didnt mcn weigh it and found it to be a bit of a porker.


something surprising i found out yesterday was that a fully fuelled ready to ride road legal 07 zx10r only weighs 197kg, so that actually less than the current lightest litre bike, the 09 blade.

Beemer-5

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215 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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To be honest Craig, there are lies, damned lies, statistics, then motorcycle weights, in that order!

Do ANY of us honestly know the dry or wet weight of a 2007 or 2009 Fireblade?

I take all weights with plenty of salt and just go by the maker's dry weight, purely as a comparison. I realise that the weight as i pull away from the happy dealer will be more.


Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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castrolcraig said:
get the brogie blade stu, i can get you some genuine brogie bits to go on it then.

ps can we wangle press bikes through your new venture??biggrin
not yet but it is the plan mate, believe me it was one of the first things I asked hehe

The brogie blade is tempting but I'm considering my options for the time being, I'm in no rush as I've got my hands full with the R1 at the minute smile

Beemer-5

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215 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Yamaha has switched to 'wet' weight, it seems, from 2009, in the case of the R1, 206 kgs ready to roll.

It is 1% heavier than the 2008 model, it would appear.

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Stu R said:
castrolcraig said:
get the brogie blade stu, i can get you some genuine brogie bits to go on it then.

ps can we wangle press bikes through your new venture??biggrin
not yet but it is the plan mate, believe me it was one of the first things I asked hehe

The brogie blade is tempting but I'm considering my options for the time being, I'm in no rush as I've got my hands full with the R1 at the minute smile
how about kenny g's 08 superstock zx10r?, the ultimate track/fast road bike!!

Beemer-5

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Sunday 25th January 2009
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New Fireblade is 200 kgs, wet.

Stu R

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216 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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I did fancy a superstock, but a couple of the lads on hooners warned me off with a couple of horror stories of maintenance and expensive rebuilds hehe

Beemer-5

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Sunday 25th January 2009
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As ever, far more important than marginal weight differences will be, firstly, how easy it is to put the power you have down and, more importantly still, how much the 'thing on top of the bike' weighs!

None of it matters much, if the rider is carrying masses of unnecessary lard everywhere, at the top of the bike!

Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Beemer-5 said:
As ever, far more important than marginal weight differences will be, firstly, how easy it is to put the power you have down and, more importantly still, how much the 'thing on top of the bike' weighs!

None of it matters much, if the rider is carrying masses of unnecessary lard everywhere, at the top of the bike!
It helps me tip in faster honest hehe

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Beemer-5 said:
Yamaha has switched to 'wet' weight, it seems, from 2009, in the case of the R1, 206 kgs ready to roll.

It is 1% heavier than the 2008 model, it would appear.
blade is 198kg wet.

Beemer-5

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Sunday 25th January 2009
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Wet weights would seem to be more sensible.

Bikes will just sound very heavy until we get used to it!

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Stu R said:
I did fancy a superstock, but a couple of the lads on hooners warned me off with a couple of horror stories of maintenance and expensive rebuilds hehe
really, thats seriously untrue, as you now my old boy runs kennys 07 zx10r, and all it requires is maintenance as per the manual, no more than the road bikes.

7999 for a 2008 zx10r with ohlins rear, ktec front, stringer motor, akro systems, spares package.

ultimate vfm.

Beemer-5

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Sunday 25th January 2009
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Craig, you've certainly got more faith in the 'crashed, tuned and thrashed' bikes of this world than most!
(Thinking also of the other, ex-racing school thread!)

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Beemer-5 said:
Craig, you've certainly got more faith in the 'crashed, tuned and thrashed' bikes of this world than most!
(Thinking also of the other, ex-racing school thread!)
crashed....er no, kenny had his share of kitty litter but do people really think that they carry on racing the same bike?? nope.

at the end of last season stuart from astro had all the bikes stripped and any part with the slightest mark replaced, as well as full engine rebuilds on all the motors.


we have run kennys 07 10r for a season and a half now and tbh its needed nothing bar an oil change, new tyres and a set of sprockets.

and next year it goes into battle in derby pheonix, and i dont expect it to be anything but reliable.