Predictions for future classics

Predictions for future classics

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3doorPete

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9,917 posts

235 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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I'm looking for your predictions and reasons for which bikes, you see are currently at a LOW EBB IN VALUE and will go the way of the Z1's, RD350's, KH Triples and the like from the 70's and 80's. I guess this is mainly going to be 90's and 00's fodder. Which bikes would you buy cheap now and tuck away in the garage for future restoration?

For me :

ZXR750R - cheapest of the WSB homologation bikes. Good ones can only go up as can be picked up for sub £2K.

ZX7R - plentiful and cheap. Good ones getting harder to find. Golden age of superbikes. I think 10 years until considered true classic though.

Suzuki RGV250 - has to go the same way in value as RD350's and are so cheap still.

Honda RVF400 - More exclusive than the NC30's, they are cheap, but holding their value well. I think with RC30's and 45's getting astronomical, the pinnacle of 400 development will go up in the next 5 years.

Honda VTR1000R SP1 - For a WSB homologation HRC developed bike, these are dirt cheap at the moment. More successful than the RC45, it has to go up in the next 5 years.


Edited by 3doorPete on Sunday 8th November 17:19

308mate

13,757 posts

223 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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'98 R1

GSXR1000 K5 (ok, it'll be a while before it happens but it WILL happen)

RRY Fireblade

I know theres a bit of a theme there but those bikes really moved their respective brands or in some cases the whole class, on a bit.

Also TLS/TLR. Very much maligned and misunderstood.


kissmyrs

195 posts

196 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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Really surprised at the low value of (some) Ducati's at the moment.

The 748/916 bikes are going for sub-3 grand. Must be worth more in the future.

ST's are really cheap. ST4 bikes are going for sub £2k (I've just bought an 8000 mile old bike for £1850). Very underrated bikes in my mind.

I'm also hoping the Fireblade RRW 929 will be a future classic. I've got one of them too!

Edited by kissmyrs on Sunday 8th November 17:58

3doorPete

Original Poster:

9,917 posts

235 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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kissmyrs said:
Really surprised at the low value of (some) Ducati's at the moment.

The 748/916 bikes are going for sub-3 grand. Must be worth more in the future.

ST's are really cheap. ST4 bikes are going for sub £2k (I've just bought an 8000 mile old bike for £1850). Very underrated bikes in my mind.

I'm also hoping the Fireblade RRW 929 will be a future classic. I've got one of them too!

Edited by kissmyrs on Sunday 8th November 17:58
Agree about the 916/748. I think they are cheap purely because the 996/998 exists along with the special edition SPS type models at the £3.5 - £6K price points. I think as they start to get really silly expensive in the next few years, it'll drag back up base 916/748.

Robert060379

15,754 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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It's sad to think that some of these machines will soon be concourse polisher territory. Best get out there and thrash the Hell out of them before the anarack brigade get hold of them.

moto_traxport

4,237 posts

222 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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kissmyrs said:
I'm also hoping the Fireblade RRW 929 will be a future classic. I've got one of them too!
confused Fireblade RRW 929 would sureley be collectable / unique. Is it a 1998 RRW or a 2000-2001 RR-Y RR-1? Cannot see 1998 - 1999 Blades being considered a classic. I love the 929 ones but everyone seems to think 954's are alot better - same bike to me!!

Collectable Blades will be the 1992 original and the 2002-2003 954 (last Tady one).

Go go go for 1998 R1 values if I hadn't just watched it click over 30k - doh!

996 sps

6,165 posts

217 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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Spoke to guy about this in Forza Italia at Silverstone last week, 851 and 888 especially the SP models are flying out the door at the mo for good money, you can pick a 748/916 up for reasonable money, 916SP and SPS sell for 6 to 8k if your lucky you ll fine 1 of the 50 with the 955 lump in it, 996 he said fly out the door even in Yellow now the SPS sells from 6 to 8 and the R holds 10 k. If I had the spare money a 748S or SPS or an R would be in the garage. I bet one of the original Busa's will go up in value soon as well, the original 200mph production machine.

fred flange

449 posts

222 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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Agree about the 888s got mine early!!
Here's my 2 the 888 and my zxr 750h2 that i restored last winter,this winter ive got a rg500 and a rd125lc to do this winter.Stinkwheels here we com!!!





Edited by fred flange on Sunday 8th November 22:24

996 sps

6,165 posts

217 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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888 looks lovely FF, here is a few of the SPS:

wassy

632 posts

256 months

Sunday 8th November 2009
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Here's my SP5.
Bought it a few years ago when no one wanted them. The first owner paid £16k.
Probably worth £10k plus now but I'll never sell it ( although my son might when he eventually gets his hands on it ! ).
Got a couple more classic Ducati's that are worth quite a lot but the fact they have gone up in value is purely by chance.
I bought them because I liked them not for an investment.



hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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3doorPete said:
Suzuki RGV250 - has to go the same way in value as RD350's and are so cheap still.

Honda RVF400 - More exclusive than the NC30's, they are cheap, but holding their value well. I think with RC30's and 45's getting astronomical, the pinnacle of 400 development will go up in the next 5 years.

Honda VTR1000R SP1 - For a WSB homologation HRC developed bike, these are dirt cheap at the moment. More successful than the RC45, it has to go up in the next 5 years.


Edited by 3doorPete on Sunday 8th November 17:19
Agree with those three.

Not now Kato

1,144 posts

200 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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All Bimota models
Any RR or SP models (GSXR 750RR, YZF 750SP, etc), although not many of the 400 models, and I agree that the RVF400 will be collectable.


Waynester

6,345 posts

251 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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wassy said:
Here's my SP5.
Bought it a few years ago when no one wanted them. The first owner paid £16k.
Probably worth £10k plus now but I'll never sell it ( although my son might when he eventually gets his hands on it ! ).
Got a couple more classic Ducati's that are worth quite a lot but the fact they have gone up in value is purely by chance.
I bought them because I liked them not for an investment.


Oh.....my!!! yikes My fave bike e v e r! followed closely by a UK spec RC30!


I bought a new (GWB) ZXR 750 H2 - back in 1990....wish i still had it
I bought a 2nd hand (GWB) ZXR 750 H1 - a few years back to restore, i didn't, then sold it.

I also had a '94 Ducati 916 Strada - one of the 1st, mint! Should have kept it!


This thread is depressing me.... frown



Oh, and for me...the usual bikes have already been mentioned but i'd like to see an original Kawasaki KR-1 (not S) in GWB.



Edited by Waynester on Monday 9th November 07:07

Regional

565 posts

222 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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I'm fairly new to bikes and had never heard of a 888 until last week, now i've seen the above pics they are very pretty indeed!

I still rate the GSXR750 SRAD if you can pick up a clean one, my mates was in PB last month in the 750 shootout - came out the best from YZF750 and ZX7R.
He's looking to sell as well I think, he wants a twin like an SP1.

3doorPete

Original Poster:

9,917 posts

235 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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Regional said:
I'm fairly new to bikes and had never heard of a 888 until last week, now i've seen the above pics they are very pretty indeed!

I still rate the GSXR750 SRAD if you can pick up a clean one, my mates was in PB last month in the 750 shootout - came out the best from YZF750 and ZX7R.
He's looking to sell as well I think, he wants a twin like an SP1.
GSXR750 SRAD came out the fastest in that test, but unless I'm mistaken, their favourite/best in the sum up was the ZX7R...? Might be biased as I have one though!

wassy

632 posts

256 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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I guess you have to look for racing pedigree and limited numbers together with a reasonable price.
If I get the chance of a red/grey KR1s with standard plastic I'd go for it. Prices are sensible at the moment.

Adam BA

266 posts

174 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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wassy said:
Here's my SP5.
Bought it a few years ago when no one wanted them. The first owner paid £16k.
Probably worth £10k plus now but I'll never sell it ( although my son might when he eventually gets his hands on it ! ).
Got a couple more classic Ducati's that are worth quite a lot but the fact they have gone up in value is purely by chance.
I bought them because I liked them not for an investment.


888's are just ace! one day, alongside a 916!

3doorPete

Original Poster:

9,917 posts

235 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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Waynester said:
wassy said:
Here's my SP5.
Bought it a few years ago when no one wanted them. The first owner paid £16k.
Probably worth £10k plus now but I'll never sell it ( although my son might when he eventually gets his hands on it ! ).
Got a couple more classic Ducati's that are worth quite a lot but the fact they have gone up in value is purely by chance.
I bought them because I liked them not for an investment.


Oh.....my!!! yikes My fave bike e v e r! followed closely by a UK spec RC30!


I bought a new (GWB) ZXR 750 H2 - back in 1990....wish i still had it
I bought a 2nd hand (GWB) ZXR 750 H1 - a few years back to restore, i didn't, then sold it.

I also had a '94 Ducati 916 Strada - one of the 1st, mint! Should have kept it!


This thread is depressing me.... frown



Oh, and for me...the usual bikes have already been mentioned but i'd like to see an original Kawasaki KR-1 (not S) in GWB.



Edited by Waynester on Monday 9th November 07:07
I never really 'got' the 851/888 look back in the day - All the bikes were going twin round headlight endurance look and the Dukes looked dated in my eyes. I'm really warming to them now and think they are now almost as pretty as the 916 style in their own way. Nostalgia eh?

That 888 looks stunning Wassy!

Edited by 3doorPete on Monday 9th November 19:39

Regional

565 posts

222 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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3doorPete said:
GSXR750 SRAD came out the fastest in that test, but unless I'm mistaken, their favourite/best in the sum up was the ZX7R...? Might be biased as I have one though!
I think you may be right, the SRAD had better stats but they liked the front end on the lardy ZX7R smile

996 sps

6,165 posts

217 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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3doorPete said:
Waynester said:
wassy said:
Here's my SP5.
Bought it a few years ago when no one wanted them. The first owner paid £16k.
Probably worth £10k plus now but I'll never sell it ( although my son might when he eventually gets his hands on it ! ).
Got a couple more classic Ducati's that are worth quite a lot but the fact they have gone up in value is purely by chance.
I bought them because I liked them not for an investment.


Oh.....my!!! yikes My fave bike e v e r! followed closely by a UK spec RC30!


I bought a new (GWB) ZXR 750 H2 - back in 1990....wish i still had it
I bought a 2nd hand (GWB) ZXR 750 H1 - a few years back to restore, i didn't, then sold it.

I also had a '94 Ducati 916 Strada - one of the 1st, mint! Should have kept it!


This thread is depressing me.... frown



Oh, and for me...the usual bikes have already been mentioned but i'd like to see an original Kawasaki KR-1 (not S) in GWB.



Edited by Waynester on Monday 9th November 07:07
I never really 'got' the 851/888 look back in the day - All the bikes were going twin round headlight endurance look and the Dukes looked dated in my eyes. I'm really warming to them now and think they are now almost as pretty as the 916 style in their own way. Nostalgia eh?

That 888 looks stunning Wassy!

Edited by 3doorPete on Monday 9th November 19:39
I agree would love a 888 especially an SP5 like Wassy's. Stunning looking bikes a mint 748S/SPS/R would not go a miss either.