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Andrew_M
Original Poster
1,111 posts
88 months
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I commute every day, the same route at the same time. As I pass the stood traffic I alway pass a couple or 3 learners on scooters and a one on a 125. Having been behind them whilst in the car, I know that they sit in the 1/2+ mile tailback for 10 mins. I don't recall being told not to during my CBT, is it personal preference or just not advised?!?!
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Steve Evil
8,488 posts
98 months
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I think as they're not taught about it, they simply don't do it. I certainly wasn't taught about it throughout my learning process, first time I did it was on the ride back from passing my mod 2 and my instructor just carried straight on past a queue of traffic, so I followed.
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morgrp
2,828 posts
67 months
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Sod Learners - Why doesn't anyone in the whole of Norfolk do it?
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RemaL
19,886 posts
103 months
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many I know don't do it, I did not do it during my DAS either
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Vidal Baboon
8,850 posts
84 months
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Insurance? I could imagine insurance for a Learner Rider company would be pretty pricey, so it may be underwritten into the policy from the start.
Isn't it automatically deemed 50/50 in an accident?
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Dontlift
9,370 posts
127 months
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Vidal Baboon said: Insurance? I could imagine insurance for a Learner Rider company would be pretty pricey, so it may be underwritten into the policy from the start.
Isn't it automatically deemed 50/50 in an accident? Guy I work with has just had to accept 100% for a filtering accident, where in reality it was simply the t  t in the car didnt look in his mirror before pulling across to the next lane, but because my mate hit him in the side and not the rear he was deemed to be at fault for some reason......
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blueg33
10,721 posts
93 months
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Filtering is overtaking and undertaking so surely its at the filterers own risk? especially as cars changing lanes without looking properly is a common event in a traffic queue. IMO some people filter way too fast
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Fred Leicester
279 posts
32 months
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morgrp said: Sod Learners - Why doesn't anyone in the whole of Norfolk do it? Oi!  I remember being encouraged to filter, even on my CBT, let alone the DAS. Agreed though - the amount of people who just sit in traffic is just bizarre. I tend to give them a little wave as I roll past... 
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FeatherZ
2,421 posts
65 months
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Me and borismiles (pher) done our DAS together our instructor was cool with us filtering and even overtaking slow moving cars.
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toxgobbler
2,284 posts
60 months
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Could just be fear? I'd much rather they didn't rather than do it badly and get in my way.
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AndyDRZ
1,086 posts
105 months
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blueg33 said: Filtering is overtaking and undertaking so surely its at the filterers own risk? especially as cars changing lanes without looking properly is a common event in a traffic queue. IMO some people filter way too fast Agree that people do filter too fast... but it shouldn't be at own risk as it is allowed in the Highway code: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Hig...88 ... Additionally, when filtering in slow-moving traffic, take care and keep your speed low.
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SaltyToe
936 posts
28 months
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It was never talked about of shown in any of my training for my licence. I did it as a learner though and frequently passed riders on bigger bikes sat there in the mile long traffic. Surely they must of twigged and try filtering after a piddly 50cc went passed them with L plates plastered all over it?
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gr88
150 posts
31 months
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Dr Doofenshmirtz
6,903 posts
69 months
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blueg33 said: Filtering is overtaking and undertaking so surely its at the filterers own risk? especially as cars changing lanes without looking properly is a common event in a traffic queue. IMO some people filter way too fast The other vehicles have a duty to look were they're going.
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Fred Leicester
279 posts
32 months
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gr88 said: No matter how may times I watch that clip, it still frightens the life out of me...
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black-k1
5,682 posts
98 months
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I think many learners don't have the confidence in either their machine handling skills or in their observation skills to feel comfortable filtering through traffic.
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blueg33
10,721 posts
93 months
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said: The other vehicles have a duty to look were they're going. I agree, but the motorcyclist is more vulnerable than the bloke in the Rangie so he has to consider it as his risk, despite what the highway code says.
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defblade
2,788 posts
82 months
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black-k1 said: I think many learners don't have the confidence in either their machine handling skills or in their observation skills to feel comfortable filtering through traffic. This. Or maybe they're just not in a hurry?
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lewis87
263 posts
72 months
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I would never filter on my CG125 when I was a learner because it was a slow bike and the cars would just be stuck behind me as soon as we set off.
Nowadays I almost always filter but sometimes I will happily sit in a queue if I am not in a hurry or don't feel like filtering.
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RemaL
19,886 posts
103 months
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gr88 said: can't see anything wrong with that
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