have you seen this ebay Viper before??
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JonathaniTall said:
I've been watching the '92 viper as well, rather like the idea of a viper and 25k is affordable...
Is it worth a punt or "steer well clear"??
Many Dealers do not know exactly what they have when trading these cars, Get the Vin number (left hand side of front window pillar) Then do a Carfax search on the Vin number, that should give you history on the car while the car was in the USA prior to being shipped.Is it worth a punt or "steer well clear"??
To check the Build information on the car Open the Drivers Door, there will be a rectangular sticker there which will have additional information on Day, Month etc the car was produced. Do not go by the registration plates.
https://www.carfax.eu/?s_tnt=67486:0:0
http://www.theviperregistry.org/mdh.php
http://www.theviperregistry.org/vin.php
If you are happy with all that information, next thing to check is how old the tyres are?
Gen 1 Vipers run 17" wheels, Check out the prices so you are aware what you are getting into.
Tyres are expensive so many people try to get by on old ones which is not good, the tyres may have plenty of tread but if they are a few years old the rubber goes hard making the viper a true snake ready to bite you if you put one foot wrong!
So if you do look at a viper its worth budgeting for new rubber.
If you don't know much about these cars you can also reach out to a Club member who Im sure would be willing to help you with making a purchase.
This is an all aluminium V10 Engine, designed by Lamborghini, it was coupled to a new 6 speed Gearbox designed for the car. It was never an old truck engine, so don't be confused if you have ever watched Top Gear.
Gen 1 Vipers had a metal 3 spoke steering wheel, no air bag.
No outside door handles, to get into the car you undid the Zip side window, reached in and opened the door from the inside.
4 Piston Brembo Front brake calipers (as used on some european cars) and a single piston Brembo Brake caliper on the rear, (pads also shared with other european cars) So Brake pads are cheap
Engine oil pan holds 8 litres of Oil.
Twin throttle body cables on a gen 1 engine with Alternator centrally mounted in front of engine.
No ABS, No Traction control. The Gen 1 RT/10 was (at the time) meant to be a modern day retro throwback to the Carol Shelby AC Cobras, a no thrills car with huge power and torque.
These cars are now becoming very collectable in the USA. If the car checks out ok with Accident history etc then its a good price.
Only thing I remember on these early cars is that Head Gaskets were not the best, but unlike european cars they don't require heads skimming, Just cleaning of the head surfaces and fitting of new gaskets.
If you have never driven one of these before, hold onto your seat, you can drive them smoothly, but the minute you push that pedal to the floor make sure the car is dead straight before you do! Its not called a Viper for nothing!
Back in 2001 I found a Viper for a friend of mine, he had a porsche at the time but fancied something different, When the Viper was pulled out of the showroom the dealer asked him if he was ready, sitting in the passenger seat he replied yes, ......with that the dealer hit the gas and laid down massive black lines of rubber forcing my mate into the back of the seat, a short while later they returned from the test drive where my mate got out of the car saying I'm Having that
Just being picky but didn't dodge send the truck block to Lamborghini (who where part of the group at the time) who then spent time working on it into aluminum and loads of other things to then return it to dodge only for the merkins to take one look at the now 'European' characteristics of the new engine, decide it wasn't what they were after and therefore proceed to throw most of the work in the bin. IIRC very little of the work done by Lamborghini made it into the final production engine and even less now we're 5 generations down the road.
Plenty of Audi and Renault bits scattered around though!
Plenty of Audi and Renault bits scattered around though!
ViperDave said:
Just being picky but didn't dodge send the truck block to Lamborghini (who where part of the group at the time) who then spent time working on it into aluminum and loads of other things to then return it to dodge only for the merkins to take one look at the now 'European' characteristics of the new engine, decide it wasn't what they were after and therefore proceed to throw most of the work in the bin. IIRC very little of the work done by Lamborghini made it into the final production engine and even less now we're 5 generations down the road.
Plenty of Audi and Renault bits scattered around though!
History LessonPlenty of Audi and Renault bits scattered around though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDdBFbikUQ
Think CAD Drawings were done at Lamborghini,
Early blocks cast at Arrow, Birmingham? Then shipped to Connor Avenue assembly plant?
Edited by fatboy18 on Tuesday 6th January 21:52
What i heard Dick say was that they were developing the truck v10 at the time and whilst the truck V10 went on one direction, the Viper V10 went in another, so yes the engine never was the truck engine but it came from the early work on the truck engine. more like brothers rather than father and son, if you like.
Lots of discussion here on eh-hmm VCA regarding the lambo connection too.
I'll try and dig out my copy of book in the morning that says a lot of the lambo work ended in the bin, but its pretty well quoted in that thread.
Lots of discussion here on eh-hmm VCA regarding the lambo connection too.
I'll try and dig out my copy of book in the morning that says a lot of the lambo work ended in the bin, but its pretty well quoted in that thread.
JonathaniTall said:
I've been watching the '92 viper as well, rather like the idea of a viper and 25k is affordable...
Is it worth a punt or "steer well clear"??
You're thinking like me - buy or 'steer clear'. My gut feeling is holding me back and that's good enough for me. Post on here if you go and look at it. Is it worth a punt or "steer well clear"??
altoplanohombre said:
JonathaniTall said:
I've been watching the '92 viper as well, rather like the idea of a viper and 25k is affordable...
Is it worth a punt or "steer well clear"??
You're thinking like me - buy or 'steer clear'. My gut feeling is holding me back and that's good enough for me. Post on here if you go and look at it. Is it worth a punt or "steer well clear"??
Viper said:
Interesting one -saw it advertised a while back.
Hi Gents,
I saw the thread and thought I would try and clarify a few things about the advertised Viper being discussed on the forum.
The car is a 1992 car originally registered in Austria. It was imported into the UK for a new owner in January of 1994.
As described, the car suffered some fiberglass damage thanks to a wayward taxi driver towards the end of 2005. The insurance company deemed the damage reparable
and the car was taken off the road whilst a replacement bonnet and front bumper were ordered. However once the cost of the replacement panels, plus shipping, plus taxes, plus fitting, painting etc was calculated, the insurance company decided it was going to be uneconomical to continue and paid out, eventually listing the car as Category D - (easily repaired but deemed as uneconomical). The un-repaired Viper came into the hands of a classic car specialist the Classic Performance Car Workshop in Coppull, Lancashire who sent the car to a fiberglass specialist here in the UK for a fraction of the insurance companies original ‘replacement parts’ estimate, and the viper was back on the road by April 2006 (with the side pipe conversion carried out) and then sold to it's current owner, (a local Doctor & contact of the classic car specialist) in May 2006.
The Car has only covered 40,000km, it is in very good condition inside and out, the engine runs faultlessly and pulls like a truck, the wheels have been immaculately refurbished, New Pilot Sport tyres are fitted all round and the car drives perfectly.
We have been asked to advertise the car for sale for the owner of almost 9 years. We believe it is advertised at a realistic price given its rarity, low miles and insurance history.
More detailed pictures can be found here:-
http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/Retro-Sport-Clas...
Thank you for your time, feel free to ask any further questions so I can put the record straight. :0)
Edited by Respics on Thursday 5th February 21:26
Being a European Spec car, this viper came with the rear exit exhaust and smooth body coloured sill covers.
The Classic Car Workshop took on the car and sourced a used front bumper from the states. During discussions with the supplier, it was discovered they also had a set of US spec side exit exhaust sill covers from the same car and a deal was done to have the parts shipped to the UK. The original rear exhaust outlet can still be seen from the rear at low level.
The Classic Car Workshop took on the car and sourced a used front bumper from the states. During discussions with the supplier, it was discovered they also had a set of US spec side exit exhaust sill covers from the same car and a deal was done to have the parts shipped to the UK. The original rear exhaust outlet can still be seen from the rear at low level.
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