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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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Hi, has anyone got a recommendation for improved side light bulbs?
Tempted to go LED but I don't want cheap Chinese Fleabay junk.
I also don't want to join the MaxPenis Saxo crowd, so avoiding the Chav look is high on my priority list.
Anyone got a recommendation?
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Dr Mike Oxgreen
1,049 posts
34 months
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I have experimented with LED sidelights before, although not on the TVR. I eventually gave up, because it's difficult to find one that disperses the light widely enough - and also they don't seem to like being housed in the same lens as a hot halogen bulb. After a few days, they always started flickering rapidly on and off.
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Goaty Bill
1,184 posts
20 months
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Some things just don't need 'improving' on.
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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Anyone else got any input on improving the side lights? Or perhaps I should just stick with the old school incandescent bulbs? 
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Malcster
271 posts
40 months
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I went for the laser-white ones from Halfrauds. TBH next to no change, maybe slightly whiter light, but barely noticible.
As said earlier, just leave em stanny.
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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Thanks chaps, looks like it's standard bulbs then.
Only one of my side lights has failed, so at least if I stay standard I only have to replace the dead one to match the working one.
Access to the side light bulbs through that annoying little access panel in the wheel arch I guess?
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kenny Chim 4
1,527 posts
127 months
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Hi Mr Lucky, I'm glad that you raised this as last week I had my offside sidelight bulb fail- and the car's facing it's MOT over the next week so it's vital that I sort it.
The original bulbs are/were 5w but the only equivalent I found in Halfords or local motor factors (with bayonet fittings) are 4w. Today I fitted one to the offside and it didn't light. I know this is not caused by a blown fuse as the nearside one lit when I turned the sidelights on. I've stripped and sprayed the connectors but still no joy.
To make sure that I was doing everything correctly, I took the nearside one apart- and now neither are lighting up!
Can anyone with any experience of this please post some help as to where I'm going wrong?
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Pink_Floyd
719 posts
90 months
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kenny Chim 4 said: To make sure that I was doing everything correctly, I took the nearside one apart- and now neither are lighting up! Can anyone with any experience of this please post some help as to where I'm going wrong? Not doing anything wrong, the fitting for the bulb and the hole that you put it in suffer from corrosion. Bulb holder is easy to clean, BUT the hole tha they go into is awkward to do. Once the surfaces are clean it should all work.
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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kenny Chim 4 said: Hi Mr Lucky, I'm glad that you raised this as last week I had my offside sidelight bulb fail- and the car's facing it's MOT over the next week so it's vital that I sort it.
The original bulbs are/were 5w but the only equivalent I found in Halfords or local motor factors (with bayonet fittings) are 4w. Today I fitted one to the offside and it didn't light. I know this is not caused by a blown fuse as the nearside one lit when I turned the sidelights on. I've stripped and sprayed the connectors but still no joy.
To make sure that I was doing everything correctly, I took the nearside one apart- and now neither are lighting up!
Can anyone with any experience of this please post some help as to where I'm going wrong? I thought the side light bulbs were the push fit T10 (501) type, not a bayonet fitting? If so, some of the T10 (501) bulbs have positive & negative sides. If the new bulb fails to work, try turning it around.
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Pink_Floyd
719 posts
90 months
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ChimpanLucky said: thought the side light bulbs were the push fit T10 (501) type, not a bayonet fitting? If so, some of the T10 (501) bulbs have positive & negative sides. If the new bulb fails to work, try turning it around. On my 1998 chim they are BA9 12V 4Watt bulbs.
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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Pink_Floyd said: ChimpanLucky said: thought the side light bulbs were the push fit T10 (501) type, not a bayonet fitting? If so, some of the T10 (501) bulbs have positive & negative sides. If the new bulb fails to work, try turning it around. On my 1998 chim they are BA9 12V 4Watt bulbs. My mistake, so they are all BA9s then?
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kenny Chim 4
1,527 posts
127 months
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Thanks for the reply PF and sorry for the late response.
I hadn't thought that dirt or corrosion on the actual housing would affect the performance of the bulb but I'll take a small wire brush and some spray to them on Thursday.
Incidentally, much as I bought that pair of 4w bulbs in Halfords for £2.46, the local factor offered a 6w upgrade for just under £18!
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Bassfiend
3,902 posts
119 months
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Wow - yes - BA9 type bulbs (otherwise known as - IIRC - 233) did mine today, what a complete ball ache! Could I hell as like get the sidelight bulb holders out and my Chim doesn't have any holes in the front wheelarches so everything was done by feel from the front grille. Thankfully I had ordered two new sidelight bulb holders from somewhere and had them in "the stash" - not exactly the same size as the originals so they don't fit so tightly but I managed to get the bent metal tang back over them enough to hold the new ones what I hope is firmly enough. Had to extract the old ones with a pair of needle-nosed mole-grips! I took the headlight bulbs out and had the lighting loom dangling out of the grille with a headlight bulb and the new sidelight holders and bulbs first just to make sure that everything worked OK - both the main headlight connector and the sidelight connector have earths so there shouldn't be any need to clean up the bulbholders - they don't earth through the fitting or anything. My only worries now are... 1) That the bant metal tangs will continue to hold the new sidelight bulb holders in place. 2) That in pushing on the headlight connectors (which were pretty stiff) I probably moved the reflectors so I hope they still pass the MOT in October.  Oh well - getting more reasons to do that Lupo light conversion! Phil
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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Sounds like a right PITA mate  I have the wheel arch access panels so perhaps a tad easier. Uprated the headlight bulbs to Philips X-treme a couple of years back which worked well. I remember the fun I had with that 
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Simon says
9,311 posts
90 months
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ChimpanLucky said: kenny Chim 4 said: Hi Mr Lucky, I'm glad that you raised this as last week I had my offside sidelight bulb fail- and the car's facing it's MOT over the next week so it's vital that I sort it.
The original bulbs are/were 5w but the only equivalent I found in Halfords or local motor factors (with bayonet fittings) are 4w. Today I fitted one to the offside and it didn't light. I know this is not caused by a blown fuse as the nearside one lit when I turned the sidelights on. I've stripped and sprayed the connectors but still no joy.
To make sure that I was doing everything correctly, I took the nearside one apart- and now neither are lighting up!
Can anyone with any experience of this please post some help as to where I'm going wrong? I thought the side light bulbs were the push fit T10 (501) type, not a bayonet fitting? If so, some of the T10 (501) bulbs have positive & negative sides. If the new bulb fails to work, try turning it around. conventional bulbs are not polarity conscious.
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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Simon says said: ChimpanLucky said: kenny Chim 4 said: Hi Mr Lucky, I'm glad that you raised this as last week I had my offside sidelight bulb fail- and the car's facing it's MOT over the next week so it's vital that I sort it.
The original bulbs are/were 5w but the only equivalent I found in Halfords or local motor factors (with bayonet fittings) are 4w. Today I fitted one to the offside and it didn't light. I know this is not caused by a blown fuse as the nearside one lit when I turned the sidelights on. I've stripped and sprayed the connectors but still no joy.
To make sure that I was doing everything correctly, I took the nearside one apart- and now neither are lighting up!
Can anyone with any experience of this please post some help as to where I'm going wrong? I thought the side light bulbs were the push fit T10 (501) type, not a bayonet fitting? If so, some of the T10 (501) bulbs have positive & negative sides. If the new bulb fails to work, try turning it around. conventional bulbs are not polarity conscious. But LED ones may be 
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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OK, just to finish this one off I fitted my new sidelight bulbs yesterday. In the end I decided against LED & stuck with old school incandescent. The BA9 bulbs are 12v 4w just as Bassfiend said, so I checked the wiring & figured I would try a set of 12v 24w. I bought four off EBay for £4.49 so I have 2 spares. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-MIN...Boy what a difference  Apologies for the rubbish phone camera snaps and remember this is in daylight. First the new 24w side lights.  Now the 24w side lights with the excellent Philips X-Treme headlight bulbs.  Importantly I double checked the wire gauge used on the sidelight circuit and it is exactly the same as that used for the headlight bulbs so I don't see any issues running the higher wattage sidelight bulbs. NB: Corrosion & general connector fustyness was my original issue, all resolved with a Dremel & a wire brush attachment. A bit of contact grease to keep the corrosion at bay and a gentle tweak of the earth tang and they should be good for years to come.
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Simon says
9,311 posts
90 months
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ChimpanLucky said: Simon says said: ChimpanLucky said: kenny Chim 4 said: Hi Mr Lucky, I'm glad that you raised this as last week I had my offside sidelight bulb fail- and the car's facing it's MOT over the next week so it's vital that I sort it.
The original bulbs are/were 5w but the only equivalent I found in Halfords or local motor factors (with bayonet fittings) are 4w. Today I fitted one to the offside and it didn't light. I know this is not caused by a blown fuse as the nearside one lit when I turned the sidelights on. I've stripped and sprayed the connectors but still no joy.
To make sure that I was doing everything correctly, I took the nearside one apart- and now neither are lighting up!
Can anyone with any experience of this please post some help as to where I'm going wrong? I thought the side light bulbs were the push fit T10 (501) type, not a bayonet fitting? If so, some of the T10 (501) bulbs have positive & negative sides. If the new bulb fails to work, try turning it around. conventional bulbs are not polarity conscious. But LED ones may be  Hence why I said conventional  Light Emitting Diode (LED) should tell you that they are polarity conscious as they are Diodes after all  enough of the piss taking  good result with those side light bulbs though 
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ChimpanLucky
Original Poster
3,235 posts
48 months
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Simon says said: ence why I said conventional  Light Emitting Diode (LED) should tell you that they are polarity conscious as they are Diodes after all  enough of the piss taking  good result with those side light bulbs though  Cheers Simon  PS: Have you got some bottles mate? I need a bit of heat on my diff drain plug. Bastaaaard thing 
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Dr Mike Oxgreen
1,049 posts
34 months
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I'd be interested to know whether you get flashed by oncoming cars, because those 24W sidelights will be pretty bright and I assume they don't have a shaped beam like headlight bulbs do.
Have you used them at night yet, and do they supplement the brightness of the headlights noticeably?
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