4.0 won't start

4.0 won't start

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penno

241 posts

229 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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I would say it's flooded pull a few plugs out and warm them on the gas hob. Put them back in and try again

PRTVR

7,072 posts

220 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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penno said:
I would say it's flooded pull a few plugs out and warm them on the gas hob. Put them back in and try again
hehe That was just what I was thinking but thought do many people have gas rings now ?....... we have and one of the reasons I aproved of the wife's choice is just in case I need to warm the plugs up, I know nothing of cooking, the toaster is limit of my cooking.biglaugh

Marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

270 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Hi,

Removed 6 plugs, the easy ones, and cleaned them up.

Checked gaps and replaced.

Still nothing. Not firing at all.
It turns over as if the dist cap was removed.

Cheers
Brian

Marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

270 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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The saga continues....

Fitted new Bosch coil and cleaned up plugs again.
Also disconnected ECU night before.

Still will not start.

What gets me is that there is fuel and a spark.
But it wont fire at all. Not even a miss-fire.

Any suggestions?

Regards
Brian

Quietlybonkers

20,904 posts

143 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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? get a proper man in with the knowledge and a tester?
? Join RAC home-start (I find them better than the AA)

I know Surrey is a big county, but there a number of PHers with tools and know-how whom might come and help drink your coffee and get it going for you, if you make it clear roughly where you live.

Edited by Quietlybonkers on Monday 8th October 13:25

edo

16,699 posts

264 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Marlboro said:
The saga continues....

Fitted new Bosch coil and cleaned up plugs again.
Also disconnected ECU night before.

Still will not start.

What gets me is that there is fuel and a spark.
But it wont fire at all. Not even a miss-fire.

Any suggestions?

Regards
Brian
Speak to Carl Baker. Could well be the crappy original alarm/immob.

Marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

270 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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The guy that looks after my tvr is on hols till Monday.

Suspect I'll wait till then.

Cheers
Brian

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Quietlybonkers said:
? get a proper man in with the knowledge and a tester?
? Join RAC home-start (I find them better than the AA)

I know Surrey is a big county, but there a number of PHers with tools and know-how whom might come and help drink your coffee and get it going for you, if you make it clear roughly where you live.

Edited by Quietlybonkers on Monday 8th October 13:25
What he said.

Where in Surrey are you?

Marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

270 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I'm in Guildford.

Cheers
Brian

Quietlybonkers

20,904 posts

143 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Guildford, Guildford, so good he said it twice.....

Marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

270 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Im in Guildford.

Kind Regards
Brian

Sorry had problem with browser refreshing.

Edited by Marlboro on Monday 8th October 16:13

over_the_hill

3,185 posts

245 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Is it the "old sticking starter motor" problem ?

Try the following.

Get a broom handle or other longish piece of wood that will reach down and give the starter motor a couple of good whacks

or

Put the car in gear and give it a good bounce up and down on the front drivers side wing.


edo

16,699 posts

264 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Carl is not far from you - nr Petersfield down the A3.

Marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

270 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Turns over fine, starter motor definately not sticking.

Glad I have an optimate charger, the battery has taken some punishment.

Cheers
Brian

Quietlybonkers

20,904 posts

143 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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edo said:
Carl is not far from you - nr Petersfield down the A3.
I know not a lot about immobilisers.....

.....but, if he has fuel pump priming and fuel arriving in the pistons, and a spark, can it still be the immobiliser?

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Sounds like it may be a classic case of flooding. These can be barstewards to start if this happens.

Pull the fuel pump relay, crank over at full throttle to clear.

Reconnect relay and give it a whirl, no throttle.

PRTVR

7,072 posts

220 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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As kichsky mentioned earlier how is the state of your battery?It only needs a slight drop in voltage for the car to fail to start, having it on a trickle charger would help but batteries do fail even if you use them,
I had a problem very similar to yours and it was the battery, it would crank over well but the starter was taking all the power and there was none for the ignition circuit.

Marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

270 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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OK, my jobs for tomorrow...

Purge fuel, steal battery from my trusty old volvo.

Cheers
Brian

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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A good idea jumping another battery.

PRTVR

7,072 posts

220 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Marlboro said:
OK, my jobs for tomorrow...

Purge fuel, steal battery from my trusty old volvo.

Cheers
Brian
Good luck it must be very frustrating,
Might be worth taking of the hose off upstream of the MAF this will eliminate if there is a problem /blockage in the hose air filter,just make sure you have the area clean, it would not help to get something sucked inside the engine.