Seats Again

Seats Again

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ChimpofDarkness

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9,637 posts

179 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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You'll be waiting a little while Phil mate wink

I need to fab up the simple rail frames first, then I can start the re-colour & renovation work with the Furniture Clinic kit.

In the mean time here are some more snaps from the trial fit yesterday.



A smaller lever knob required.




Marking the lever for trimming.




The offending XJS seatbelt bracket that needs to go, it's riveted on.




The XJS seatbelt bracket removed, turns out I didnt need to remove it as the original TVR rail will be used.




A snug fit on the outer bolster.




Door closed, no problems.




Seatbelt anchor before adjustment.




After persuasion.




The rake pivot square.




A session with Hakisawrus.




The remaining square.




Setting the rake with a 10mm spanner, a thin lever will be made up so this can be done when the seats are fitted.




The squab fits in nicely, it's not the problem.




The bottom of the back rest, look closely at the pivots, this is the tightest & most problematic area of the whole installation.




The roof stay misses the headrest, just.




Head room and scary eyes yikes




Head room, another angle.




She's in, snug as a bug in a rug cool

pbaker43

268 posts

168 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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woohoo Thanks for the pictures Dave, see what you mean 'snug as a bug' they just fit, hats of to you for the fitting, well done mate.

cjj799

363 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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anonymous said:
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These are cool. Bit pricey though.

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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This may help anyone thinking of putting XJS seats in a Chimaera:

As we can see from the inconsistent measurements TVR is delivering their usual levels of high quality engineering here. I'd recommend just using the image as a guide and measuring your own seats as they are probably are all fractionally different from car to car.

The Jag XJS mounting points on the other hand are spot on to the millimeter, so will almost certainly be universally the same.





And here we have the basic principle of the converter frame, the frame being represented in blue. I have purposely left the measurements off as I strongly advise taking the true measurements from your own TVR seats.


IMPORTANT! The above basic rendering shows the TVR converter frame as symmetrical in relation to the XJS mounting points, this is actually not the case as for the XJS seats to fit correctly in a Chimaera the converter frame needs to be off set slightly.

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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More progress:









The eagle eyed amongst you will notice these XJS runners are electric, mine are manual but the basic principles & measurements of the adapter frames will be the same.

The biggest challenge is getting the seats adjustable back and forth on runners without ending up with the seats being too high.

I'm over 6' tall, the headroom in a Chimaera is fine for me with the standard TVR seats, but I'd hate the XJS seat project to turn out like this rolleyes



The ultimate goal is to create a pair of "Plug & Play" adapter frames which (once bolted to the XJS seat frames) would allow anyone to easily drop a set of Jaguar XJS Recaro seats straight into a Chimaera.

The first set of adapter frames will be ready next week, thanks Gregor thumbup

Richard 858

1,882 posts

135 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Father Christmas turned up a bit early this morning !


jamienshelly

1,826 posts

138 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Richard 858 said:
Father Christmas turned up a bit early this morning !

Looking good mate. I have been chatting to Allison and ordered ours last week.
I was going to start another thread but.... How are you going to mount them, Do you need to raise them to match the old seats and are you using the intatrim runners or the original TVR ones?

I did explore the XJS route and MX5 and various others to boot, you have made a great job of the fitment.
Jamie

Richard 858

1,882 posts

135 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Thanks Jamie & correctly identified, I've got a set of Intatrim runners as well so will experiment a bit when I get round to fitting them in the next couple of weeks, I'll be making up some ally strips above & below mounting points to spread the load (it'll be an improvement over the repair washers used by TVR originally in any case !). I aiming to get them as low as possible as I'm fairly tall so could do with a bit more head room so may end up direct to the floor. I'll post more pics when fitted.

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Adapter frames looking good and will allow me to simply drop the XJS seats straight in my Chimaera using the existing mounting points.











RobXjcoupe

3,168 posts

91 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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Bringing back an old thread smile
Just started a restoration on my 95 Griff and have been looking at seat replacement, currently in my garage I have a pair of xjs recaro type Seats and wondered if they would fit. Clearly they do smile or should I say they will with a bit of tlc
Would be great if you have any more info or pictures how the seats have held up over time?

QBee

20,953 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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I don't think Chimpongas is still on here.

SonicHedgeHog

2,538 posts

182 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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It is amazing that no one seems to make a suitable aftermarket seat for TVRs or other small, two seat sports cars. If one of the big manufacturers offered a top quality, reclining seat without a cover, ready to be sent to the trimmer, I’d be in there like a rocket.

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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The Cerbera seats were, imho, the best seats TVR made. Early ones, not the Tuscan ones fitted to later Cerbs.

Comfortable, supportive and direct fit. Personally, a thinning of the seat base improves them but that is personal.

I can sit in them all day without issue plus they hold be up / in place on trackdays.

RobXjcoupe

3,168 posts

91 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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mk1fan said:
The Cerbera seats were, imho, the best seats TVR made. Early ones, not the Tuscan ones fitted to later Cerbs.

Comfortable, supportive and direct fit. Personally, a thinning of the seat base improves them but that is personal.

I can sit in them all day without issue plus they hold be up / in place on trackdays.
It’s getting hold of a pair now though.

miniman

24,914 posts

262 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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swanny71 said:
Moderately tangential question - I assumed the bolsters were attached to the centre console - but it appears not?

QBee

20,953 posts

144 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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miniman said:
Moderately tangential question - I assumed the bolsters were attached to the centre console - but it appears not?
No, they are a separate section, underneath the centre bit

geo59

23 posts

81 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Slightly off the subject by my 99 Chimaera is having the seats retrimmed in early September, they will use the drivers seat cover as a template but I'll have a good set of covers in coming off the passenger seat in Portland Grey, half hide, for sale if anyone could use it?

737 FLF

172 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Does anyone do a proper DIY "Seat Re-covering Kit" for Chim or Griff ?

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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RobXjcoupe said:
It’s getting hold of a pair now though.
True. They do come up though. Just have to accept they have a certain value. I have three sets aside for the S's and Wedge.

I happen to like the S1 Elise seats too but the seat frames are essential part of any purchase as the mounting holes are on the side! I have two sets of these aside as I may use them in the S's.

RobXjcoupe

3,168 posts

91 months

Friday 22nd July 2022
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mk1fan said:
RobXjcoupe said:
It’s getting hold of a pair now though.
True. They do come up though. Just have to accept they have a certain value. I have three sets aside for the S's and Wedge.

I happen to like the S1 Elise seats too but the seat frames are essential part of any purchase as the mounting holes are on the side! I have two sets of these aside as I may use them in the S's.
It’s that current value that is a little steep for me. Basically I’ve missed that boat. I’ve looked at the lotus seats and the vx220 seats, they look the part but a bit to sparce in design and cushioning. Go back 25 years in my mid 20’s and I wouldn’t have hesitated. Now I’m 50, comfort and support is needed lol.
The Jaguar seats look sporty enough but also match the classic interiors of a Griff and Chimaera. You can buy new seat cushion foams if needed and the actual covers are fairly simple to put the TVR stitch design on or give a bit of a make over, with coloured fillets, double stitch diamonds or just retain the horizontal tuck and roll but with new leather. The Griff and Chimaera inner door panels have the perfect place to trim to match the seat design.
Also I’ve looked inside my Jag seats and it’s possible to reposition the button to tilt the backrest forward. If I’m fitting new covers moving the button isn’t an issue. The op showed this button fouling on the centre console bolsters. The rake adjustment handle could be changed for a series 2 or 3 xj6 version once the square drive has been shortened as the different handle is a slimmer design. Then connect the lumber support which is hidden un-used in the seat as a working seat upgrade.
I’m gonna give the Jag seats a fair go smile