Modified Chimaera Club (MCC)

[Dominic TVRetto]

Richard 858 said:

Now giving a potential 468 bhp & 414 ft/lbs at the wheels.

after discussion and to maintain longevity, retain standard drivetrain ... this has now been re-tuned to:

439 bhp & 420 ft/lbs at the wheels.

[amusement]
I love the way "maintain longevity and retain standard drivetrain" the torque figure has been increased
[/amusement]

Dom

[Richard 858]

What run down/drag/friction conversion factor are we using, 15%, 18% ??

[Jhonno]

Dominic TVRetto said:

Richard 858 said:

Now giving a potential 468 bhp & 414 ft/lbs at the wheels.

after discussion and to maintain longevity, retain standard drivetrain ... this has now been re-tuned to:

439 bhp & 420 ft/lbs at the wheels.

[amusement]
I love the way "maintain longevity and retain standard drivetrain" the torque figure has been increased
[/amusement]

Dom

That is what I was thinking.. It is torque that kills stuff, not bhp.. So by that measure they have made it worse?!

[DangerousDerek]

N7GTX said:

Dangerousderek + MarkTVRchim = match made in heaven. Derek, buy Mark's car and save yourself all the grief of the DIY route. Easy route into the MMCC

Interested

[MarkTVRchim]

DangerousDerek said:

N7GTX said:

Dangerousderek + MarkTVRchim = match made in heaven. Derek, buy Mark's car and save yourself all the grief of the DIY route. Easy route into the MMCC

Interested

It would be good to see it out there being used as intended by someone.

[DangerousDerek]

MarkTVRchim said:

It would be good to see it out there being used as intended by someone.

I suspect the price would be way out of my league

[phazed]

DangerousDerek said:

MarkTVRchim said:

It would be good to see it out there being used as intended by someone.

I suspect the price would be way out of my league

We could share it and keep it at my place, seems fair

[LongBaz463BHP]

DangerousDerek said:

MCC
DangerousDerek @ 484bhp nitrous 4.6
ChilliWhizz @ an amazing 360 ponies N/A
N7GTX @ 355bhp + 481 lbs/ft - turbo 4.0 litre
LongBaz @ 463bhp -525 lbs/ft - turbo 5.0 ltr


MMCC
Mark @ 625bhp + 620 lbs/ft – 6.2 supercharged

Don't know how long those figures will be as is. New engine on the way so could be more, could be less.

Edited by LongBaz463BHP on Thursday 5th November 18:34

[macdeb]

Pupp said:

Ahem - if Alex is on on potential, then so am I

And has Mac changed his name to Peter?

[macdeb]

So where exactly does 573bhp and over 600 lb/ft torque actually put me and my little old 4.6 then.
maybe another list for bhp per litre
don't cars actually have to be running or just in theory

[ClassiChimi]

^^^^^^^^^

[phazed]

DangerousDerek @ 484bhp nitrous 4.6
ChilliWhizz @ an amazing 360 ponies N/A
N7GTX @ 355bhp + 481 lbs/ft - turbo 4.0 litre
LongBaz @ 463bhp -525 lbs/ft - turbo 5.0 ltr
Mark @ 625bhp + 620 lbs/ft – 6.2 supercharged
phazed 377bhp + 460 lbs/ft - 5.5 N/A, yes, only N/A!

[ClassiChimi]

It doesn't seem fair does it .....

[Alexdaredevils]

macdeb said:

phazed said:

DangerousDerek @ 484bhp nitrous 4.6 106 bhp/ltr
ChilliWhizz @ an amazing 360 ponies N/A 72 bhp/ltr
N7GTX @ 355bhp + 481 lbs/ft - turbo 4.0 litre 88 bhp/ltr
LongBaz @ 463bhp -525 lbs/ft - turbo 5.0 ltr 92 bhp/ltr
Mark @ 625bhp + 620 lbs/ft – 6.2 supercharged 100 bhp/ltr
phazed 377bhp + 460 lbs/ft - 5.5 N/A, yes, only N/A! 68 bhp/ltr

EFA [just for fun]
Macs 573bhp + over 600 lb/ft 126 bhp/ltr
reckon FI has it. Though respectable numbers on the N/A front
God only knows what Neals may be,,,, maybe pushing high 130's bhp/ltr??? or more

I'm aiming for 146 bhp/ltr

[macdeb]

Bugger, thought again and deleted for fear of upset, was just fun.
So, 775 the target then?
didn't think you had PH anymore?

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 5th November 21:22

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 5th November 21:24

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 5th November 21:28

[Alexdaredevils]

[quote=macdeb]Bugger, thought again and deleted for fear of upset, was just fun.
So, 775 the target then?
didn't think you had PH anymore? [quote=macdeb]

I'm back in my house now,

777bhp is my target

[DangerousDerek]

macdeb said:

So where exactly does 573bhp and over 600 lb/ft torque actually put me and my little old 4.6 then.
maybe another list for bhp per litre
don't cars actually have to be running or just in theory

Haha we could do a separate theory list on our build plans but Alex would just exaggerate as usual.
I am aiming north of 800 but 666 would be cool to match my number plate.

[Richard 858]

Jhonno said:

Dominic TVRetto said:

Richard 858 said:

Now giving a potential 468 bhp & 414 ft/lbs at the wheels.

after discussion and to maintain longevity, retain standard drivetrain ... this has now been re-tuned to:

439 bhp & 420 ft/lbs at the wheels.

[amusement]
I love the way "maintain longevity and retain standard drivetrain" the torque figure has been increased
[/amusement]

Dom

That is what I was thinking.. It is torque that kills stuff, not bhp.. So by that measure they have made it worse?!

Sorry for the misleading comment chaps, as I understand it the 468 & 414 figures were the initial readings from the first run with rev limiter set at 6250, this was without fine tuning to balance the bhp & torque figures more evenly. The end result of 439 & 420 is after fine tuning but with rev limiter at 6,000 rpm. Hope this makes sense, if not feel free to shoot it to pieces

[Richard 858]

Richard 858 said:

What run down/drag/friction conversion factor are we using, 15%, 18% ??

On the assumption we're applying a fairly well accepted figure of 18% then by my calculations that gives me 518bhp & 496ft/lbs. at the flywheel, I'll leave this to Derek / Chilli to confirm before I add myself to the appropriate group.

[N7GTX]

phazed said:

DangerousDerek @ 484bhp nitrous 4.6
ChilliWhizz @ an amazing 360 ponies N/A
N7GTX @ 355bhp + 481 lbs/ft - turbo 4.0 litre
LongBaz @ 463bhp -525 lbs/ft - turbo 5.0 ltr
Mark @ 625bhp + 620 lbs/ft – 6.2 supercharged
phazed 377bhp + 460 lbs/ft - 5.5 N/A, yes, only N/A!

Are all these figures at the wheels or the flywheel (using 18% loss calculation)?