Post your dyno curve here

Post your dyno curve here

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spitfire4v8

3,992 posts

182 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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my old engine .. posted before but it was a fast car back in the day.

carsy

3,018 posts

166 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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And what cam was in there Jools ?

spitfire4v8

3,992 posts

182 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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To be honest I don't know the cam spec. I told Rob at V8D what spec I was building and he sent a cam, solid followers and adjustable pushrods up to me. What cam I got though I really don't know!

QBee

20,994 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Monsterlime said:
QBee said:
Two separate issues here IMHO.
But what do I know?

1. If your lambda sensors are still in, you don't need a tune resistor.

2. The stalling on re-starting is something to do with the mix of fuel left in the system from the previous run, the ECU and the stepper. Blitz racing will know the precise answer. I doubt it is the stepper - i think you would see the stalling more frequently.
Thanks. Sounds like new thread time. smile

1. Pretty sure they are, but will obviously check to confirm.

2. I did actually have general idling issues, and in the course of fixing that, the stepper was replaced. In the end though, that was fixed with a new ignition amplifier. Sounds like I need to plug in the laptop with Rover Gauge to start the diagnosis.
The quality of your replacement stepper my be part of the issue - some of the replacements are definitely sub-standard

A900ss

3,253 posts

153 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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Had a dyno run at the Neil Garner open day today and disappointed with the result.

Car is a 450, stealth cam fitted last year, fully decatted, ACT carbon trumpets and a smooth bore elbow. So minor mods only. Was still hoping for more than 240hp though.

Looking at the AFR the car is running very lean as the revs rise and I hope this is why the power curve tapers off so rapidly.

It has a 'copy' AFM so this might be to blame. Either way, had a good chat with Joolz today and I think I'll get it remapped later this year.




phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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A900ss said:
Had a dyno run at the Neil Garner open day today and disappointed with the result.

Car is a 450, stealth can last year, fully decatted, ACT carbon trumpets and a smooth bore elbow. So minor mods only. Was still hoping for more than 240hp though.

Looking at the AFR the car is rubbing very lean as the revs rise and I hope this is why the power curve tapers off so rapidly.

It has a 'copy' AFM so this might be to blame. Either way, had a good chat with Joolz today and I think illbfey it remapped later this year.



Is this the same RR that gave low figures at the growl?

A900ss

3,253 posts

153 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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Not sure but it was North London Dyno. Might be a bit low as a friend who has a 330hp car on a dyno last year made 300 today.

However a 400 after me made 220 and it was straight as a die on its gradient as it went up in power .

Either way, the car is leaning off and I need to get that sorted.

sgrimshaw

7,330 posts

251 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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I'll see if I can clean my graphs up tomorrow.

There was some static at the end of the run so the lines go haywire.

Happy with the numbers though, power 381.1 and torque 370

phazed

21,844 posts

205 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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sgrimshaw said:
I'll see if I can clean my graphs up tomorrow.

There was some static at the end of the run so the lines go haywire.

Happy with the numbers though, power 381.1 and torque 370
Is that the car in your profile?

If so, engine spec?

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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A900ss said:
Had a dyno run at the Neil Garner open day today and disappointed with the result.

Car is a 450, stealth cam fitted last year, fully decatted, ACT carbon trumpets and a smooth bore elbow. So minor mods only. Was still hoping for more than 240hp though.

Looking at the AFR the car is running very lean as the revs rise and I hope this is why the power curve tapers off so rapidly.

It has a 'copy' AFM so this might be to blame. Either way, had a good chat with Joolz today and I think I'll get it remapped later this year.



Doesn't look like it's hitting full load enrichment? Could just has easily be the throttle pot under reading at WOT, if I recall it requires the throttle pot to give something like 4.5 v before it gives full power fuelling. I'm sure Joolz will take you through it.

sgrimshaw

7,330 posts

251 months

Sunday 28th September 2014
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phazed said:
Is that the car in your profile?

If so, engine spec?
Yup.

4 litre, supercharged. Megasquirt controlling fuel and ignition.

BigGriff540

250 posts

143 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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phazed said:
A900ss said:
Had a dyno run at the Neil Garner open day today and disappointed with the result.

Car is a 450, stealth can last year, fully decatted, ACT carbon trumpets and a smooth bore elbow. So minor mods only. Was still hoping for more than 240hp though.

Looking at the AFR the car is rubbing very lean as the revs rise and I hope this is why the power curve tapers off so rapidly.

It has a 'copy' AFM so this might be to blame. Either way, had a good chat with Joolz today and I think illbfey it remapped later this year.



Is this the same RR that gave low figures at the growl?
Yes, its the same guys. Interesting reading as another Griff owner on here 'Bobgriff' went on the rollers and initially had a disappointing result from his 500 Griff but a little magic was undertaken in the engine bay and it produced similar results to what it did a couple of years ago if i remember correctly? Maybe Rob can tell us more?

Bobgriff

113 posts

163 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Mine produced 302 bhp and 348ftlb this time, they took the rpm from a lead as the tacho was under reading which produced similar to two years ago on the bhp, can't remember previous torque. The difference for me is that since then it's had a bigger AFM, injectors, carbon trumpets and some rolling road time with Mark Adams at mech repairs in cheltenham last Nov. mark got it up to 335 and 351 so although the the torque was similar the bhp was down by 10%. I'm happy with the numbers from either RR, they will always be different and I wasnt hanging out of the boot at Neil garners for the final run! It's very difficult to get a good comparison, different atmospherics, differnt RR and the car has done 3 k more miles. Only real difference though is I now have a BTR biff instead of the GKN which chewed itself to pieces, doubt that will make any difference but it still doesn't make the original factory figures frown

Bobgriff

113 posts

163 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Mine produced 302 bhp and 348ftlb this time, they took the rpm from a lead as the tacho was under reading which produced similar to two years ago on the bhp, can't remember previous torque. The difference for me is that since then it's had a bigger AFM, injectors, carbon trumpets and some rolling road time with Mark Adams at mech repairs in cheltenham last Nov. mark got it up to 335 and 351 so although the the torque was similar the bhp was down by 10%. I'm happy with the numbers from either RR, they will always be different and I wasnt hanging out of the boot at Neil garners for the final run! It's very difficult to get a good comparison, different atmospherics, differnt RR and the car has done 3 k more miles. Only real difference though is I now have a BTR biff instead of the GKN which chewed itself to pieces, doubt that will make any difference but it still doesn't make the original factory figures frown

CHIMV8

2,768 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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283.. at fly with jools

400 with stage 3 heads

Mark_S_24

405 posts

177 months

Sunday 12th October 2014
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It's a '93 430, so 225bhp is a bit low...
After some checking I found 1 of the HT leads to be melted through, so it was 1 cylinder down at the time.
It's up at about 56k miles & I don't see a Cam change in the paperwork anywhere.
So those figures would be about what I would expect (not had it dyno'd after changing the HT leads).

Mark

QBee

20,994 posts

145 months

Sunday 12th October 2014
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CHIMV8 said:
283.. at fly with jools

400 with stage 3 heads
Please tell us more, like what is the basic spec of your engine?

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th October 2014
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I may be wrong, but I've yet to see a dyno with more than 360bhp from a NA 500.... whistle

CHIMV8

2,768 posts

222 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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QBee said:
CHIMV8 said:
283.. at fly with jools

400 with stage 3 heads
Please tell us more, like what is the basic spec of your engine?
Rebuilt by V8D
New Clutch
Stealth cam
Stage 3 heads
Ported inlet manifolds and 45mm trumpets
72mm plenum
Lightened flywheel
Cam and cranke bearings,shells replaced etc
Removed pre cats
Clive Y and ACT smooth bore induction system
Running standard rear box silencer
Standard loom and Dizzy



QBee

20,994 posts

145 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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So that's 224 bhp at the wheels and 283 bhp at the fly?
If so, that's excellent.
My V8D 5 litre with virtually the same spec otherwise is only 300 bhp, but 330 torques. Yours is good for a 4 litre