Make Your Own Magnetic Sump Plug

Make Your Own Magnetic Sump Plug

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ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

180 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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For the last 2 oil changes I've been using this, and it's definitely an improvement on the original sump plug & crushable copper washer.



Actually its just a Daivid Brown tractor sump plug but being a 1/2" BSP it fits a treat, no more crushable washers to buy, no leaks, and being round edged it cant get caught and spin undone like the original.

Well worth £6.00 and will pay for itself in crushable washers alone in less than 10 oil changes.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DAVID-BROWN-TRACTOR-SUMP...

But it could be better, I like magnetic sump plugs but proper ones that actually do something are expensive and I couldn't find a decent 1/2" BSP one anywhere.

So I made my own.

First I needed to find a suitable magnet, the strongest magnets you can get are the neodymium type, but you need one that copes with high temperatures.

Most magnets lose nearly all their pull when temps get over 60c, even neodymium ones.

That's no good if the thing is permanently sat in hot engine oil, however this one operates right up to 120c.



At £3.50 I thought I'd give it a try.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140760034645?ssPageName=...

So I drilled my David Brown tractor sump plug creating a small recess for the magnet to sit in and used some epoxy to hold it in place, of course all this is not strictly necessary as the magnet itself clings to the sump plug like nothing else.

The end result looks like this.



As you can see it puts a lot of magnet surface area into the oil compared to all other magnetic sump plugs, which is a good thing.

But you may be thinking it's too long, I checked this with a Range Rover sump and I can assure you there's absolutely no danger of the magnet touching anything it shouldn't.

Here's my magnetic sump plug going in this afternoon, getting it started on the thread is a little tricky due to the magnet pulling the plug out of position, but in truth it's no big deal, once its started on the thread it spins on beautifully.



So how strong is this home brewed magnetic sump plug of mine?

Well this should give you a pretty good idea.



Yes that's my TVR scissor jack, which is a good few kilos making my sump plug quite a bit stronger than any magnetic sump plug I've ever seen.

All this for a tenner, if you like the idea why not make one up yourself?

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

232 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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I have the same plug ,Its a very tight fit because the more power full 5l cars have a flexible pipe due to the extra torque .

I had to grind a bit of the allen key to get it started .



Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Saturday 23 November 20:35

Pupp

12,231 posts

273 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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That'll scare the life out of you when you take it back out again smile

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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Don't see why it should, although I must admit I've seen some scary swarf on magnetic sump plugs in the past.

Actually it should be scary, much better than a non magnetic sump plug where your leaving the swarf in there to carry on circulating.

But I also have a FilterMag that catches the majority of ferrous metal swarf in the first place & right where it belongs.

In the filter!

My magnetic sump plug is just a belt & braces last line of defence.

I remember Steve Heath used to proudly demonstrate his magnetic sump plug by showing a photo of it holding an adjustable spanner.

I'd like to see his one hold a scissor jack, the magnet in mine is proper strong in comparison and there's at least double the surface are in the oil flow to catch particles of ferrous metals.

Use it with a red bodied FilterMag (the proper strong one) and a fibreglass media filter from V8 filters with Penrite HPR15 15w/60 oil, for a belt & braces oil change.


SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

232 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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ChimpOnGas said:
Don't see why it should, although I must admit I've seen some scary swarf on magnetic sump plugs in the past.

Actually it should be scary, much better than a non magnetic sump plug where your leaving the swarf in there to carry on circulating.

But I also have a FilterMag that catches the majority of ferrous metal swarf in the first place & right where it belongs.

In the filter!

My magnetic sump plug is just a belt & braces last line of defence.

I remember Steve Heath used to proudly demonstrate his magnetic sump plug by showing a photo of it holding an adjustable spanner.

I'd like to see his one hold a scissor jack, the magnet in mine is proper strong in comparison and there's at least double the surface are in the oil flow to catch particles of ferrous metals.

Use it with a red bodied FilterMag (the proper strong one) and a fibreglass media filter from V8 filters with Penrite HPR15 15w/60 oil, for a belt & braces oil change.

Dave will the filer mag fit on to a sandwich plate ? Where is the metal coming from ?

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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SILICONEKID343HP said:
Dave will the filer mag fit on to a sandwich plate ?
Should do, but you'd need to do a measure up to check.

I expect you're forced to run a shorter less efficient oil filter because of your sandwich plate.

The FilterMag looks like this on the long body fibreglass media V8 Filter.






SILICONEKID343HP said:
Where is the metal coming from ?
The cam mostly yes

Here's my old original TVR Kent 435 cam after just 30,000 miles.



And this isn't even a bad one, many cams still running in Chims & Griffs will look much worse than this.

Just try for a moment to image where all that worn off hard metal is going, and you'll soon acknowledge the benefits of the FilterMag & a decent magnetic sump plug in an RV8.

Compare my £10 super strong magnetic sump plug..



With the other one you can't even buy these days...



Now compare the strength of mine...



With the strength of the one you can't even buy these days...



No contest wink

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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David,

You need to place a warning sticker on your sump for unsuspecting mechanics


WARNING Removal of sump plug may cause extraction of crankshaft or other unsecured engine components.
Handle with care!


ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Goaty Bill said:
David,

You need to place a warning sticker on your sump for unsuspecting mechanics


WARNING Removal of sump plug may cause extraction of crankshaft or other unsecured engine components.
Handle with care!
laugh

If you want one of my magnetic sump plugs when we do do your 3,000 mile oil change, I have a spare for you wink

I have to warn you though, it isn't original & flys in the face of your "keep it standard" mantra.

Mind you, I have a feeling your engine internals aren't exactly all that standard these days hehe

You're such a hypocrite Goat Boy rolleyes

carsy

3,018 posts

166 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Good one Dave thumbup. Mind you i recon the drag it will have on the crank will loose you at least 40bhp hehe

No in all seriousness a great idea.

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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ChimpOnGas said:
laugh

If you want one of my magnetic sump plugs when we do do your 3,000 mile oil change, I have a spare for you wink

I have to warn you though, it isn't original & flys in the face of your "keep it standard" mantra.

Mind you, I have a feeling your engine internals aren't exactly all that standard these days hehe

You're such a hypocrite Goat Boy rolleyes
From the look of the power of that magnet you have there, it is likely to slow the rotation of the entire reciprocating mass causing a loss of at least 20 hp.


Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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carsy said:
Good one Dave thumbup. Mind you i recon the drag it will have on the crank will loose you at least 40bhp hehe

No in all seriousness a great idea.
Hmm.
Seems we need a dyno on this biggrin

NickM450

2,636 posts

201 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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What about us poor souls that lack any kind of skill or tools to make such a device? Maybe you fancy selling some smile

I've been looking for the Filter mag, do I remember seeing a thread that included a link?

Nick

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

232 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Goaty Bill said:
Can you fit the magnet to a standard oil filter ?

Quinny

15,814 posts

267 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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I suspect that the magnet is so strong that on turning the ignition key, the crank won't turn, but the car will rotate on its axis and end up on its roof..yes

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

152 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Sorry Dave, it's my fault for leading this helpful post into the mire. My bad redcard


Quinny may have a point though wobble
Quinny said:
I suspect that the magnet is so strong that on turning the ignition key, the crank won't turn, but the car will rotate on its axis and end up on its roof..yes

jojackson4

3,026 posts

138 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Orderd plug and mag
If it turns it up side down it will help doing the wish bones and shocks

Win win

s p a c e m a n

10,781 posts

149 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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SILICONEKID343HP said:
Goaty Bill said:
Can you fit the magnet to a standard oil filter ?
Oldschool/cheapskate

Knock the magnet off of an old speaker and stick it on the end of the filter biggrin

NickM450

2,636 posts

201 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Goaty Bill said:
That's the thread I was looking for, ta thumbup


jojackson4 said:
Orderd plug and mag
If it turns it up side down it will help doing the wish bones and shocks

Win win
What site did you buy the 'mag from?

Nick

jojackson4

3,026 posts

138 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Daves e bab link for both