What did you do in the garage yesterday?

What did you do in the garage yesterday?

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roseytvr

1,788 posts

178 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Sardonicus said:
Thats bloody awesome Peter bow
+1 Peter. Fantastic numbers mate, well done! Is that it now or are you chasing more?

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Never expected that much gain.

Fantastic result, that must be some machine now Peter.

QBee

20,957 posts

144 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Awesome!! Out of interest, how far out was the map that you put on to get there?

db484bhpv8

8,655 posts

220 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I was thinking 370 at a push so that's fantastic. Well done and we'll deserved Peter. I can't wait to see you and Barrie run side by side 11s soon


phazed

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21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Thanks guys, I'm really pleased.

I've no idea how far the nap was out but it looked about right on the AFR gauge on the journey there.

this is it now, engine wise, no need for more power otherwise other components will start breaking!

strangely, I filled up before mapping, the car spent about 2 hours on the rollers and I still managed 200 miles before filling up! Can't be bad.

As you can imagine, acceleration from 80 is immensely fast and 120 comes up in just a few seconds.

Happy days.

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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phazed said:
Traffic and more traffic at my end.

Well after spending the afternoon at Joolz for a mapping session after fitting the stage 4 heads and the roller rockers and meeting Spend for the first time!

The results are in;





That's 384.8 BHP/428 torques

Performance is noticeably 40 BHP and 30 torques faster.

It was worth it in the end!
thats quite a lot eek playing with some speedsix cars should be fun biggrin

phazed

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21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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gacksen said:
thats quite a lot eek playing with some speedsix cars should be fun biggrin
It was always quicker from a standstill with the torque advantage but now it pulls more at the top end.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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phazed said:
It was always quicker from a standstill with the torque advantage but now it pulls more at the top end.
How much power as the 4.6 lost ?

spend

12,581 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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phazed said:
It was always quicker from a standstill with the torque advantage but now it pulls more at the top end.
That wasn't even the best result, sure there was one 386.4ish..

Did mean to remind you to check the oil level before leaving redfaceops:

Leaks spotted were :
- dipstick
- n/s rocker cover
- front gasket seal (not sure if you have the right clamps on BTW they didn't look quite right somehow )

TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Fantastic numbers Peter. I must resist having the heads done and ECU changed.....

phazed

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21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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spend said:
phazed said:
It was always quicker from a standstill with the torque advantage but now it pulls more at the top end.
That wasn't even the best result, sure there was one 386.4ish..

Did mean to remind you to check the oil level before leaving redfaceops:

Leaks spotted were :
- dipstick
- n/s rocker cover
- front gasket seal (not sure if you have the right clamps on BTW they didn't look quite right somehow )
Hey Dave, be positive!

Joolz and I had a looksee afterwards.

Dipstick tube not fully pushed home.
Breathers too small diameter and taken to a Y piece doesn't help.
Hence leaky rocker gasket.
Front inlet rubber seal wants investigating.

A bit of breather tweaking should sort it and I suppose the constant high revs on the rollers highlighted these minors.

You can see how the FI boys have trouble if my NA engine creates problems at constant high revs.





Graham, have a test drive then you'll know you want to!

Hoofa

3,151 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Yes oil leaks on rocker covers is driving me nuts , hopefully as more people go FI someone might find a cure. I have had some new rocker cover spacers made and trying pups method of sealing.

Nice numbers should feel nice n torquey , now slap a rotrex on smile

spend

12,581 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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I don't think you can associate 'breathing' with the valley gasket seal leak, which you had before RR runs wink

I'll never be convinced with the vent to can / atmosphere compared to proper PCV though. The easy way I found to tune the PCV was to make up a Tee - piece with screw in 'jets' that I could bore in various diameters, and they all needed to be significantly smaller than standard to adjust to big breathing monsters. So not just restricting the crank air/in breather, but also that 3 way PCV hose connector (flame trap ¬ trumpet base ¬ pre-throttle).


I still can't get my head round whether a 'yank-style' PCV valve arrangement would work well with a motor that is sucking really hard, and the 'english' style of allowing the engine to also occasionally gulp shots of fresh air from the air filter side of the throttle seems a particularly smart way to keep the pipes clean (forcing oil back down the breather hoses into the engine).



Making custom parts sounds complicated, but quite easy really, something like take an m12 bolt, thin down hex, drill & tap m8/6 internal. Make a selection of m8/6 grub screws drilled out with small orifices so you can quickly insert them to tune the PCV. Thats exactly what I did to make connections to the ACT CF boxes, and basically a similar process to make a tee-piece (1" hex, perpendicular insert for tee and then all 3 stubs tapped so 'jets' could be popped in to tweak air flows/breathing).

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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phazed said:
spend said:
phazed said:
.......you'll hear me cursing abou 6pm I guess mad
Got lost or gone a long way round?
Traffic and more traffic at my end.

Well after spending the afternoon at Joolz for a mapping session after fitting the stage 4 heads and the roller rockers and meeting Spend for the first time!

The results are in;





That's 384.8 BHP/428 torques

Performance is noticeably 40 BHP and 30 torques faster.

It was worth it in the end!
Awesome Peter, and with all the effort you've put in, totally deserved.... The bhp figure is impressive, but the torque is stonking.... well done that man biggrin

Gotta go, buying beds today smile

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Wow! mighty impressive figures, you must be well chuffed with that Peter
Torque ramps up quite sharply between 3 and 4k, should be a fun ride cool

db484bhpv8

8,655 posts

220 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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I am looking forward to the old grudge match between Peter and Barrie.
384 bhp BA versus 383 bhp nitrous.
Gonna be close!
I am offering odds of evens for Peter and 4/5 for Barrie at the next drag meeting.

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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phazed said:
Awesome! clap Only 15.2HP to go!!! biggrin

db484bhpv8

8,655 posts

220 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Chuffmeister said:
Awesome! clap Only 15.2HP to go!!! biggrin
Easy. Just go to SRR

Kokkolanpoika

161 posts

151 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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My 5.2litre with home made stage 4 heads give 393hp/409torque/556Nm
Hope to get 10% more for my new tig welded heads..

phazed

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21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Kokkolanpoika said:
My 5.2litre with home made stage 4 heads give 393hp/409torque/556Nm
Hope to get 10% more for my new tig welded heads..
What car is that in?