What did you do in the garage yesterday?
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I guess that's it, if you work hard for your money and don't have it freely to hand you are going to be more careful with your motor. Especially if it's worth a fairly substantial amount. To me even a ratty chim is that!
I have always started off slow and build my speed up each time. Even when I go to tracks I know, I'm never all out on the 1st few laps as grip levels can change massively from month to month.
The track was almost dried out at the time he smashed it, but kerbs are always slippery for a while as we had had rain overnight.
But things like this can help get it in your head for newbies that it isn't always a bad thing to go let a spin just go if there are things around to hit.
I have always started off slow and build my speed up each time. Even when I go to tracks I know, I'm never all out on the 1st few laps as grip levels can change massively from month to month.
The track was almost dried out at the time he smashed it, but kerbs are always slippery for a while as we had had rain overnight.
But things like this can help get it in your head for newbies that it isn't always a bad thing to go let a spin just go if there are things around to hit.
mk1fan said:
Two different processes doing different things.
Clay cloths are the same as a clay bar.
Claying removes the small bits of ingrained dirt without effecting the paint surface. They are the bits that make the paint feel like sandpaper.
You can get the same result with a mop and polish with, say, G3. But this would mean removing paint as well.
So do you wash it and dry it first and clay bar the whole car then polish ! I have some G3 would a bit worried it might make problems . Clay cloths are the same as a clay bar.
Claying removes the small bits of ingrained dirt without effecting the paint surface. They are the bits that make the paint feel like sandpaper.
You can get the same result with a mop and polish with, say, G3. But this would mean removing paint as well.
I now have a scratch , my 2 year old hit it with the metal end of the sweeping brush
ClassiChimi said:
QBee said:
I do run one degree negative
Try about 2.5 ! I've got a portable gauge, need to re set it for road mind! What pressures do you run the Federals again Anthony?
And I am watching Phazed and Daz's comments too, as i am about to polish my recently acquired Saab, the paintwork is good but feels like sandpaper, and I have G3 and G10 ready to use.......
QBee said:
22/24 or 24/26 depending on how cold the day is.
And I am watching Phazed and Daz's comments too, as i am about to polish my recently acquired Saab, the paintwork is good but feels like sandpaper, and I have G3 and G10 ready to use.......
I have now got the clay bar coming ,sitting in the garage are G3 scratch remover ,G3 compound and Autoglym polish but don`t have a clue And I am watching Phazed and Daz's comments too, as i am about to polish my recently acquired Saab, the paintwork is good but feels like sandpaper, and I have G3 and G10 ready to use.......
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SILICONEKID345HP said:
QBee said:
22/24 or 24/26 depending on how cold the day is.
And I am watching Phazed and Daz's comments too, as i am about to polish my recently acquired Saab, the paintwork is good but feels like sandpaper, and I have G3 and G10 ready to use.......
I have now got the clay bar coming ,sitting in the garage are G3 scratch remover ,G3 compound and Autoglym polish but don`t have a clue And I am watching Phazed and Daz's comments too, as i am about to polish my recently acquired Saab, the paintwork is good but feels like sandpaper, and I have G3 and G10 ready to use.......
SILICONEKID345HP said:
So do you wash it and dry it first and clay bar the whole car then polish ! I have some G3 would a bit worried it might make problems .
I now have a scratch , my 2 year old hit it with the metal end of the sweeping brush
Not wishing to drag the thread off topic. Here is a simple guide.I now have a scratch , my 2 year old hit it with the metal end of the sweeping brush
1. Wash and dry car.
2. Prepare a part of the clay bar by warming it in you hand and flattenening it out to form a patty. Need only be a few mm thick and about the size of your four fingers (if you still have four!). You don't need to use the whole bar.
3. Working on a section of the body at a time. Spray on some lube. A quick detailer is sufficient. Then rub the wetted area with the flat face of the clay bar. Very important to keep the bar lubed and not let the surface dry as you can damage the paint easily.
4. After a few back and forths check the clay. You'll see all the rubbish it's lifted. Fold the clay over and make a new 'patty'. Continue on with the process.
5. If the car is really dirty then you may need a new bit of the clay bar. If the bit you're using looks really dirty and streaky or starts to get crumbly and breaking down then get a fresh peice.
6. Clay should be used on paint first. If the body is done then move onto the glass. Finally, the wheels. Once used on glass don't then use it on paintwork again. Once used on wheels don't use it on anything else.
7. If you drop the clay on the ground throw it away - it'll pick up loads of grit which will then scratch the paint / finish.
After claying a panel there's loads you could do from a full on paint correction to a simple polish and wax. But you should do something following straight on as the paint is now clean of 'grit' and will only start to pick up more 'grit'.
G3 can be pretty agressive so use it lightly. Auto Glym Super Resin Polish or a 'cleaner' polish followed by a decent wax should be sufficient after a claying unless you want a show car finish.
There is a detailing forum on here - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...
You Tube has a plethera of how to vids too. Plenty of American Detailing firms have done promo videos.
Always something 
part of my motor rebuild I thought I would refresh my brake & clutch hydraulics and I guess my new old stock brake master cylinder was faulty (jamming sticking pedal) 
bit of a tricky one this come back wise I have had it dry stored and in its original packaging for 3 years before using so fitted my original with rebuild kit (was a spare) job done 
actually not a bad job and I stand by the fact that bleeding the brakes on these cars is a doddle although this time I vacuum bled it about 5 minutes start to finish because my time invested in this car is getting bloody stupid now 
part of my motor rebuild I thought I would refresh my brake & clutch hydraulics and I guess my new old stock brake master cylinder was faulty (jamming sticking pedal) bit of a tricky one this come back wise I have had it dry stored and in its original packaging for 3 years before using so fitted my original with rebuild kit (was a spare) job done actually not a bad job and I stand by the fact that bleeding the brakes on these cars is a doddle although this time I vacuum bled it about 5 minutes start to finish because my time invested in this car is getting bloody stupid now Yeah but you love it really......
Those hours will soon fade into the mists of time but your car will stand the test, and it's always enjoyable when you do a job on the Tvr and it hasn't actually taken all day, bleeding the brakes is always a nice undertaking if you ask me, and on the Tiv, especially so!
Those hours will soon fade into the mists of time but your car will stand the test, and it's always enjoyable when you do a job on the Tvr and it hasn't actually taken all day, bleeding the brakes is always a nice undertaking if you ask me, and on the Tiv, especially so!
ClassiChimi said:
Yeah but you love it really......
Those hours will soon fade into the mists of time but your car will stand the test, and it's always enjoyable when you do a job on the Tvr and it hasn't actually taken all day, bleeding the brakes is always a nice undertaking if you ask me, and on the Tiv, especially so!
To be honest with you Alun I am completly pissed of with it now Those hours will soon fade into the mists of time but your car will stand the test, and it's always enjoyable when you do a job on the Tvr and it hasn't actually taken all day, bleeding the brakes is always a nice undertaking if you ask me, and on the Tiv, especially so!
dont help I am on the tools for my occupation maybe I have spent to long working on your run of the mill cars but I can say with all honesty I would not want to make a living working on these cars full time they can drive you nuts at times I can make my living far easier where most parts are available that day and you dont need to make stuff fit Dunno so much.
I changed the auxiliary belt on my Chimaera last year in about 10 minutes flat. Une piece de pees, (as the French would say if they spoke french properly).
Went to change the similar belt on my (transverse engined) Saab 9-5, plus fit a new aircon pump, took one look at the lack of access and sent it to a Saab garage to do.
I simply do not have 18 inch long fingers 5mm thick, and quadruple jointed arms and wrists.
When I collected the car it was the boss, with 25 years experience, who had done the job. He had oil and grease in places I didn't know it was possible to get oil and grease, and when i asked how it had gone, he mentioned chassis members in stupid places through gritted teeth.....and gave me a bill for £288 excluding parts (which i had supplied).
Great, these modern cars....
I changed the auxiliary belt on my Chimaera last year in about 10 minutes flat. Une piece de pees, (as the French would say if they spoke french properly).
Went to change the similar belt on my (transverse engined) Saab 9-5, plus fit a new aircon pump, took one look at the lack of access and sent it to a Saab garage to do.
I simply do not have 18 inch long fingers 5mm thick, and quadruple jointed arms and wrists.
When I collected the car it was the boss, with 25 years experience, who had done the job. He had oil and grease in places I didn't know it was possible to get oil and grease, and when i asked how it had gone, he mentioned chassis members in stupid places through gritted teeth
.....and gave me a bill for £288 excluding parts (which i had supplied).Great, these modern cars....
Sardonicus said:
o be honest with you Alun I am completly pissed of with it now dont help I am on the tools for my occupation maybe I have spent to long working on your run of the mill cars but I can say with all honesty I would not want to make a living working on these cars full time they can drive you nuts at times I can make my living far easier where most parts are available that day and you dont need to make stuff fit
Yeah I can always do it in fits and starts as you've got to do it everyday, big difference. dont help I am on the tools for my occupation maybe I have spent to long working on your run of the mill cars but I can say with all honesty I would not want to make a living working on these cars full time they can drive you nuts at times I can make my living far easier where most parts are available that day and you dont need to make stuff fit I can pretend I enjoy it until it's over then erase the pain from the memory by ignoring the car for awhile.
Chin up Simon you've got to be on the homeward straight by now! Alun
ClassiChimi said:
Yeah I can always do it in fits and starts as you've got to do it everyday, big difference.
I can pretend I enjoy it until it's over then erase the pain from the memory by ignoring the car for awhile.
Chin up Simon you've got to be on the homeward straight by now! Alun
I am nearly thanks Alun I can pretend I enjoy it until it's over then erase the pain from the memory by ignoring the car for awhile.
Chin up Simon you've got to be on the homeward straight by now! Alun
got this far today inbetween jobs but going home at reasonable time tonight 
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