Well that's made it worse

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Well I checked the manifolds tonight all seem ok, although I am not sure about the gaskets that came with the head set from RG.

They look like this ( as in thin layers rather than the solid ones I used last time I did them ).



So plan now is to leave it till the weekend, then remove inlet manifold again, N/S rocker arm check lifters are free, then refit all again triple checking everything reseal exhaust manifold again ( may try different gaskets ).

Double check I haven't left a spanner in there somewhere

[chrispitman]

Were you getting decent oil pressure?

[pinchmeimdreamin]

chrispitman said:

Were you getting decent oil pressure?

Its sitting at 25-30 on tickover. (same as it has always done)

[gruffalo]

Did you have the cam out, I had this once and the cam timing was one tooth out, all the valves on one bank were just touching the pistons. It did not do any damage, I retimed the cam and all was well for anothet 75K miles till I sold the car.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

gruffalo said:

Did you have the cam out, I had this once and the cam timing was one tooth out, all the valves on one bank were just touching the pistons. It did not do any damage, I retimed the cam and all was well for anothet 75K miles till I sold the car.

No I'm not that brave.

[macdeb]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Well I checked the manifolds tonight all seem ok, although I am not sure about the gaskets that came with the head set from RG.

They look like this ( as in thin layers rather than the solid ones I used last time I did them ).



So plan now is to leave it till the weekend, then remove inlet manifold again, N/S rocker arm check lifters are free, then refit all again triple checking everything reseal exhaust manifold again ( may try different gaskets ).

Double check I haven't left a spanner in there somewhere

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but, those gaskets look nothing like what you should have

[s p a c e m a n]

If they're the actual gaskets that you've fitted I think that we've found your problem

I've never used that type of gasket before, but if they fit and all of the surfaces were clean I don't see a problem with them. I wouldn't choose them, but I wouldn't bother taking them off if they work.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

macdeb said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but, those gaskets look nothing like what you should have

no those are nissan ones its the construction of the gasket I meant ( sorry for my crap descriptions )

Layers of thin tin rather than solid ones.

[macdeb]

Ahh, lol. I've never had a problem with the 'tin' exhaust gaskets and usually put a smear of silicone on the faces first. The thicker composite ones however have leaked when I've used them and they seem to break down a little.

[TOV!E]

Filled up with Mobil 1 0-W40.

[jamienshelly]

I know this may sound stupid, but have you checked that the plug leads are fitted right and you say new dizzy cap, if it was an intermotor cap then you may be barking up the wrong tree. Sorry if you have checked and double checked these points.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

TOV!E said:

Filled up with Mobil 1 0-W40.

Yes I know I had a blonde moment and took Racing Greens advice.

But mocking aside could this be part of the problem ?


I have ordered new. Lucas cap and Rotor arm to change out the OEM ones.

[s p a c e m a n]

Iirc 0 weight is the same as 5 weight but it just stays runnier at lower temperatures, utterly pointless for England If your gauge is showing loads of pressure it's all gravy. . Or oily

If you're going to take it to pieces again you could try filling the lifters with oil first.

[phazed]

It seems to me, iirc, that you renewed your rocker shafts, reassembled but didn't set the preloads.

Did you remove the heads? If you did then this is the problem.

Even if the heads weren't removed, I wouldn't reassemble the top end without setting the preloads.


Just checked back, the heads were removed, defo reset the preloads, I'm sure that's your problem.

Edited by phazed on Wednesday 23 April 16:12

[jojackson4]

+1^^^
The man above knows his onions ^^^^^^^

[pinchmeimdreamin]

phazed said:

It seems to me, iirc, that you renewed your rocker shafts, reassembled but didn't set the preloads.

Did you remove the heads? If you did then this is the problem.

Even if the heads weren't removed, I wouldn't reassemble the top end without setting the preloads.


Just checked back, the heads were removed, defo reset the preloads, I'm sure that's your problem.

Edited by phazed on Wednesday 23 April 16:12

I thank you, will be my first job saturday then. I did warn you I may have surpassed my talent levels

[chrispitman]

Pre Load isn't this to stop pump up at high revs this noise is at low rpm suggesting the followers are not pumping up taking out the slack or a really thick head gasket.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

So doing my homework for this weekend, is the V8 development method of setting the preload using feeler gauges ok (I have feeler gauges I dont have welding rods )

http://www.v8developments.co.uk/technical/valve_tr...


Or should I pop into local engineering place and try get hold of some welding rods?

[jojackson4]

Have you ordered a shim kit
Rimer Bross / real steal are cheaper
The wire method is a lot easier I used copper wire

[pinchmeimdreamin]

jojackson4 said:

Have you ordered a shim kit
Rimer Bross / real steal are cheaper
The wire method is a lot easier I used copper wire

Going to order a kit well use one of the above as I looked on Fleabay and the want silly money for them compared.

Will have a word with the engineer at work see what he has lying around rod wise then if its easier .