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ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Today I secured my fifth consecutive no advisories pass in the same number of years party

Wishing all on here the same result for your next MoT.

Dave.



yikes



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SILICONEKID346HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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ChimpOnGas said:
Today I secured my fifth consecutive no advisories pass in the same number of years party

Wishing all on here the same result for your next MoT.

Dave.



yikes



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So explain what all that means .

ianwayne

6,283 posts

268 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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I think that means it should have failed on emissions but it, ahem, didn't. biggrin

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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ianwayne said:
I think that means it should have failed on emissions but it, ahem, didn't. biggrin
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Hoofa

3,151 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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And your point is ......... .?

pincher

8,534 posts

217 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Mine comes out of the garage tomorrow for what is, I think, only the second time since July last year and is going for an MOT.

Only done a couple of hundred miles since the last one, so I'm hoping for a pass.

Quinny

15,814 posts

266 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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SILICONEKID346HP said:
So explain what all that means .
I think I can help Daz....yes

It means.....

CO % vol is 2.557
COc % vol is 2.97
O2 % vol is 2.55
CO2 % vol is 9.96
HC ppm is 1933
And the last one is 0.950


Hope that helps


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mart 63

2,070 posts

244 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Quinny,first time ive seen a Griff on 2 wheels today,glad I refused to go for a blast in it today with yousmile

Quinny

15,814 posts

266 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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mart 63 said:
Quinny,first time ive seen a Griff on 2 wheels today,glad I refused to go for a blast in it today with yousmile
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SILICONEKID346HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Quinny said:
I think I can help Daz....yes

It means.....

CO % vol is 2.557
COc % vol is 2.97
O2 % vol is 2.55
CO2 % vol is 9.96
HC ppm is 1933
And the last one is 0.950


Hope that helps

Are those readings good or bad ?


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SILICONEKID346HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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I thought LPG sales through an MOT, I watched wheeler dealers when a V8 land rover failed because of high mileage . ,they stuck the LPG kit on and it went straight through .

BIGMIKE1

339 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Mine wasn't actually too far out when it was MOT the other week
at 2500rpm CO 0.54% Fail
HC 32 PPM Pass
Lambda 1.02 Pass
These figures were obviously before I re-fitted the cat so I could pass my MOTsmile

Edited by BIGMIKE1 on Thursday 24th April 22:16

A900ss

3,248 posts

152 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Not that it effects any cars in this thread but I don't understand why people post info advising they have 'bent' MOT's on the internet.

It will only lead to tightening up of standards from the relevant authorities and it's easy enough for them to check through people's forum histories to see reg numbers and therefore what garages are not toeing the line.

If you have a secret, keep it secret or at least via PM


(Tin hat now on) smash



Edited by A900ss on Thursday 24th April 23:19

Quinny

15,814 posts

266 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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SILICONEKID346HP said:
Are those readings good or bad ?
It passed... So they must be good enoughthumbup

Here's mine..... Pre cat so as long as there's not to much smoke its a passhehe


TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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I don't know enough about the rules and regs to say if Dave is implying anything about the MOT but that screen runs for an age in the test and it decides if you pass or fail at the end, not at any given time. That said, some of those seem higher than I would expect, especially hydro carbons.

s p a c e m a n

10,776 posts

148 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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I like this rule, if any of you ever need to change the block..

Vehicles fitted with a different engine must be tested to the requirements of whichever is older, the engine or the vehicle. e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes. Note: The onus is on the vehicle presenter to prove engine age.



It's a pre-cat officer biggrin

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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SILICONEKID346HP said:
I thought LPG sales through an MOT, I watched wheeler dealers when a V8 land rover failed because of high mileage . ,they stuck the LPG kit on and it went straight through .
In order to correctly test the emissions on an LPG vehicle the tester must first select the correct setting on his gas analyser.

This is because burning LPG produces a different type of hydrocarbon to petrol so the calibration on the gas analyser must be adjusted to compensate, my tester still hasn't found the LPG button on his analyser so my HC figures are actually totally inaccurate rolleyes

The rules on testing a dual fuel vehicle are simple:

1) The car must be tested on the fuel type it's presented on

2) When tested on LPG the CO only needs to be less than 3.5% for a pass

3) When tested on LPG the HC only needs to be less than 1200ppm

It's quite lenient really and far easier to pass an emissions test on LPG than to pass on petrol.

But when testing an old Rover V8 with no catalytic converters fitted it really doesn't matter what fuel you're running, a fail is almost inevitable.

With the Stealth cam I find a richer idle works best, any leaner than 13:1 and she starts to hunt so there's not a hope in hell I'll even hit the 1200ppm target.

Pop the big dustbin main cat back on and she sails through, but its so restrictive it doesn't stay there for long if at all.

The whole emissions thing is a load of old bull in my opinion, cars only make up a tiny percentage of the worlds green house gasses, electricity production & industry is where it all comes from.

The only thing a responsible car owner should be concerned about is particulates, these little fekers get in your lungs and cause a lot of repository damage.

By far the worst particulate offenders are diesels, so if you want to cut down on harmful emission that genuinely kill on a local level dont stress over your HC, CO or Nox... Just make sure you're not chucking out loads of particulates.

And the best way to do this is to stop driving evil diesel vehicles yes





Your TVR is not a killer, your local public transport bus company however definitely is!


pincher

8,534 posts

217 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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pincher said:
Mine comes out of the garage tomorrow for what is, I think, only the second time since July last year and is going for an MOT.

Only done a couple of hundred miles since the last one, so I'm hoping for a pass.
Passed - no advisories party

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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pincher said:
pincher said:
Mine comes out of the garage tomorrow for what is, I think, only the second time since July last year and is going for an MOT.

Only done a couple of hundred miles since the last one, so I'm hoping for a pass.
Passed - no advisories party
Congratulations pincher, always a good day when you get a pass clap

fausTVR

1,442 posts

150 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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ChimpOnGas said:
The whole emissions thing is a load of old bull in my opinion, cars only make up a tiny percentage of the worlds green house gasses, electricity production & industry is where it all comes from.

The only thing a responsible car owner should be concerned about is particulates, these little fekers get in your lungs and cause a lot of repository damage.

By far the worst particulate offenders are diesels, so if you want to cut down on harmful emission that genuinely kill on a local level dont stress over your HC, CO or Nox... Just make sure you're not chucking out loads of particulates.

And the best way to do this is to stop driving evil diesel vehicles yes

Your TVR is not a killer, your local public transport bus company however definitely is!
Well said that man! I'm wondering if this massage will ever reach the great brainwashed masses though.

Edit to add:- greater greenhouse gas contributors still are; volcanic activity and shipping.

Edited by fausTVR on Saturday 26th April 08:14