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ChimpOnGas said:
I feel your pain Daz, my deepest sympathies mate but it does all sound recoverable as the crank journals aren't scored.
Good luck with it, Dave.
Thanks Dave .. The big question is why did i have 6 litres of oil on the floor in seconds ? it ran for probably 10 seconds with no oil in and after new oil and filter the pressure read 55 all the way home .Good luck with it, Dave.
I can`t blame anyone ,we have looked at it in detail with the front cover on the bench ,the oil filter is clear of the sandwich plate castings and thermostat retaining nut .nut . Its a top quality filter ..
Why Why Why
The filter seal popped out one side and it was all over in seconds .
QBee said:
Daz, you said "55 psi all the way home".
On what gauge? TVR one?
I am lucky if mine shows 30 psi when hot, so if yours was reading similarly to mine then you maybe had, as said above, excessive pressure which found the easiest way out, ie via the filter seal ring?
So make sure you have a relief valve that works and maybe it won't happen again?
Good luck mate - we still need to do that evening track event at Cadwell Park when you have a properly working car, to decide who's the quicker combination of car and driver...27th August looks favourite.
The oil pressure sender was recently purchased from the TVR shop ,it supposed to be an OE one and cost enough .On what gauge? TVR one?
I am lucky if mine shows 30 psi when hot, so if yours was reading similarly to mine then you maybe had, as said above, excessive pressure which found the easiest way out, ie via the filter seal ring?
So make sure you have a relief valve that works and maybe it won't happen again?
Good luck mate - we still need to do that evening track event at Cadwell Park when you have a properly working car, to decide who's the quicker combination of car and driver...27th August looks favourite.
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The oil pressure relief jammed closed because some material from the cover got trapped .
TVR Beaver said:
I can see it pushing the oil seal out of a flat face joint.. but the seal is in a recess in the filter.. it would have to bend out the rolled lip to escape... massive pressure required??
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On the shell thats down to copper.. can you tell if thats just happened or has that gone like that over time?... Is the copper shiny?...
One tiny area . .
On the shell thats down to copper.. can you tell if thats just happened or has that gone like that over time?... Is the copper shiny?...
Sardonicus said:
An oil filter seal/ring sitting in that recess could cope with 200 psi with ease IMO and your pump did not chew up in such short time Daz those gears would be quite happy running on a minimal film of oil without damage (even aerated) and your engine would of seized way before that kind of damage relative to scored up/worn gears that takes thousands of miles with knackered contaminated oil i.e cam lobe material floating around the sump 
many filters shipped dont have the seal ring seated fully home (yes even good ones) and this should always be checked before fitting inc making sure that on removal of old filter that the seal is still located on the used/old filter rather than sitting on the front cover/sandwich plate etc I have seen this on various makes of vehicles over the years more times than I care to remember 
Gears are ok but new ones are being fitted has a precaution ,the surface where the pump sits and the small plate is badly scoured ,caused from no oil . many filters shipped dont have the seal ring seated fully home (yes even good ones) and this should always be checked before fitting inc making sure that on removal of old filter that the seal is still located on the used/old filter rather than sitting on the front cover/sandwich plate etc I have seen this on various makes of vehicles over the years more times than I care to remember Iv`e had to change my name !
Edited by SILICONEKIDOBHP on Friday 11th July 18:20
Alexdaredevils said:
Pull it out and clean/check everything and refresh all bearings/cams/lifters etc
A engine refresh is cheaper than a rebuild
How far do i go ,its not at the engine builders .. If it goes i`m ordering an LS ,having a respray and new interior . A engine refresh is cheaper than a rebuild
30k ive won on the premium bonds should do it .
macdeb said:
bloody 'ell Daz, only just read this and so sorry mate. I'm with sardonicus on the filter, can't see it just blowing out if in situ correctly. Really hopefull that it all works out.Of course if you do have to pull it out, it could be an opportunity to fit some different pistons and a you know what
Its just not feasible ,I just can`t carry on .. it`s breaking my heart
Chuffmeister said:
It maybe a stupid question, but do you actually know how much damage has been caused to the rest of the engine? Have you considered replacing the pump and oil and just seeing how you get on? If it eats oil, then you know you'll need a rebuild. If it doesn't, it maybe okay? Either way, the end result is either rebuild or running it. Am I missing something here or is this a self-rationalization to spend a lot of money on an LS conversion? 
Its having a new oil pump ,oil pressure relief spring and new shells . Everything cleaned ,new oil "filter" coolant and see how it goes . I`m hoping its going to have good oil pressure .
I`m thinking 
If the shells have shown wear then what condition will the cam ,cyliders and top end be like ..
I could have a knackered cam ,scratched bores ,burnt out pistons and worn rockers !
I`m sick and tired of TVR ownership
I wanted to have a new carpet and tidy up the body a bit ,that looks like it not going to happen .
If the shells have shown wear then what condition will the cam ,cyliders and top end be like ..I could have a knackered cam ,scratched bores ,burnt out pistons and worn rockers !
I`m sick and tired of TVR ownership
I wanted to have a new carpet and tidy up the body a bit ,that looks like it not going to happen .
Got my car back , I had a new oil pump the front cover was damaged on each side of the pump so it had to be flattened off . The big end shells have been replaced ,there was only one shell showing a small amount of wear .
I had a new clutch slave cylinder and a couple of cheap oil flushes then Millors 10w60 sully synthetic and a fresh filter .
The Racetech oil pressure sender had failed so that has been sent back and a new one from TVR Power .
His pressure test rig was showing between 30 and 60psi and the new sender consistent to the test gauge .
The front cover was removed ,we looked at the oil filter fitted and there was nothing stopping it being screwed fully in ,it`s still a mystery why oil the fell to the floor in a few seconds .
Its cost me a packet That was my carpet money !
I had a new clutch slave cylinder and a couple of cheap oil flushes then Millors 10w60 sully synthetic and a fresh filter .
The Racetech oil pressure sender had failed so that has been sent back and a new one from TVR Power .
His pressure test rig was showing between 30 and 60psi and the new sender consistent to the test gauge .
The front cover was removed ,we looked at the oil filter fitted and there was nothing stopping it being screwed fully in ,it`s still a mystery why oil the fell to the floor in a few seconds .
Its cost me a packet
That was my carpet money !
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