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This is getting painful now, FFS Daz have you checked your oil pressure using an external gauge yet!!!! 
Sorry to shout but you really need to start at the beginning before embracing anymore theories.
One thing is for sure, you will not understand what's really going on by posting on Pistonheads.
Use the fekin gauge I linked you to and come back with the figures, then and only then can we discuss step 2.
Sorry to shout but you really need to start at the beginning before embracing anymore theories.
One thing is for sure, you will not understand what's really going on by posting on Pistonheads.
Use the fekin gauge I linked you to and come back with the figures, then and only then can we discuss step 2.
ChimpOnGas said:
This is getting painful now, FFS Daz have you checked your oil pressure using an external gauge yet!!!!
Sorry to shout but you really need to start at the beginning before embracing anymore theories.
One thing is for sure, you will not understand what's really going on by posting on Pistonheads.
Use the fekin gauge I linked you to and come back with the figures, then and only then can we discuss step 2.
You either haven't been on here long enough or never read any of the plumbers threads. He never listens to any of the good advice people give him, in fact I'm certain his computer has some sort of 'ignore' device set so he doesn't even see the advice and has an 'off at a tangent' mode set to full power Sorry to shout but you really need to start at the beginning before embracing anymore theories.
One thing is for sure, you will not understand what's really going on by posting on Pistonheads.
Use the fekin gauge I linked you to and come back with the figures, then and only then can we discuss step 2.
If the tester arrives today Daz, test as advised.
I would explain everything to Central in a brief factual email and suggest they pick the car up an you are not starting it again, (oil pressure light on).
They did the work very much in that area and an error could easily be made.
Talk sense to them, not accusingly but stress that they should be checking this out before something major happens especially as the problem occurred immediately after they carried out the works.
If you test and the news is bad, you'll be going down this route anyhow.
Good luck.
I would explain everything to Central in a brief factual email and suggest they pick the car up an you are not starting it again, (oil pressure light on).
They did the work very much in that area and an error could easily be made.
Talk sense to them, not accusingly but stress that they should be checking this out before something major happens especially as the problem occurred immediately after they carried out the works.
If you test and the news is bad, you'll be going down this route anyhow.
Good luck.
So the filter fouls the nut, so not sealing, ok so you blow the oil out.
Why have you been loosing pressure since, something's not right, put that right and your engines saved or have you been running it with low pressure, is the engine sounding metallic!
That sandwich plate, am I thick or is that nut fouling simply because it's not able to turn a bit more. It's a disaster waiting to happen, what a pathetic design or have I mis understood? That nut would foul most filters FFS.
I can't work out who's screwed up here?!!
Is the plate bespoke or ripped from some other application, shaving edges off a nut, I'm well confused?!!
Why have you been loosing pressure since, something's not right, put that right and your engines saved or have you been running it with low pressure, is the engine sounding metallic!
That sandwich plate, am I thick or is that nut fouling simply because it's not able to turn a bit more. It's a disaster waiting to happen, what a pathetic design or have I mis understood? That nut would foul most filters FFS.
I can't work out who's screwed up here?!!
Is the plate bespoke or ripped from some other application, shaving edges off a nut, I'm well confused?!!
Classichim said:
So the filter fouls the nut, so not sealing, ok so you blow the oil out.
Why have you been loosing pressure since, something's not right, put that right and your engines saved or have you been running it with low pressure, is the engine sounding metallic!
That sandwich plate, am I thick or is that nut fouling simply because it's not able to turn a bit more. It's a disaster waiting to happen, what a pathetic design or have I mis understood? That nut would foul most filters FFS.
I can't work out who's screwed up here?!!
Is the plate bespoke or ripped from some other application, shaving edges off a nut, I'm well confused?!!
I did not supply or fit the oil filter ,its down to the fitter to choose the correct filter and fit it properly .. I know mistakes are easily made but .Why have you been loosing pressure since, something's not right, put that right and your engines saved or have you been running it with low pressure, is the engine sounding metallic!
That sandwich plate, am I thick or is that nut fouling simply because it's not able to turn a bit more. It's a disaster waiting to happen, what a pathetic design or have I mis understood? That nut would foul most filters FFS.
I can't work out who's screwed up here?!!
Is the plate bespoke or ripped from some other application, shaving edges off a nut, I'm well confused?!!
The oil filter was not leaking until it let go then the lot went in seconds .
The oil filter was not married exactly to the face of the sandwich plate because the nut was pushing against it .
The guys at TVR Central who investigated it found the problem . They said there is no way they would not of seen the problem ,you could see the problem ,i`m surprised it was noy picked up when fitting it .
TVR Central are nothing to do with the problem ,they simply helped me after the disaster .I just happened to be there when it happened .
Not defending anyone here Daz but, your car is not standard, the mechanic would choose a filter for a standard car, as you said it wasn't leaking until it let go, so not apparent that there was any problem with the filter initially after it was fitted, once you change things from standard and fit sandwich plates and the like, the chances of things going wrong increases, like I say I'm not defending or directing blame towards anyone, and I hope its sorted soon for you.
rigga said:
Not defending anyone here Daz but, your car is not standard, the mechanic would choose a filter for a standard car, as you said it wasn't leaking until it let go, so not apparent that there was any problem with the filter initially after it was fitted, once you change things from standard and fit sandwich plates and the like, the chances of things going wrong increases, like I say I'm not defending or directing blame towards anyone, and I hope its sorted soon for you.
It was fitted by TVR specialist .so no excuses . Mocal sandwich plates are used all over the world ,they are nothing special .If there were problems with the unit they would of gone through years ago .Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Thursday 3rd July 22:58
phazed said:
Also, they had to fit a none standard filter as a standard one doesn't fit.
Ah OK, clearance issues I guess due to being too long as the plate adds length ....Daz, I assume the "tvr specialist "is fully aware of this issue and is being proactive in resolving it? Car being collected and inspected by him?
Edited by rigga on Friday 4th July 05:26
If they showed you a broken oil pump… would you know if it was yours?... Not exactly sure who’s done what here but if potentially there is a way of ‘getting out of it’ .. (let’s face it, there is a lot of money here)… I’d be having a look first just to make sure the strainer was not blocked or it’s not been left loose etc.
I’m sure it’s quite easy to blame someone / something else if needs be if you have cocked up on a job
I’m sure it’s quite easy to blame someone / something else if needs be if you have cocked up on a job
TVR Beaver said:
If they showed you a broken oil pump… would you know if it was yours?... Not exactly sure who’s done what here but if potentially there is a way of ‘getting out of it’ .. (let’s face it, there is a lot of money here)… I’d be having a look first just to make sure the strainer was not blocked or it’s not been left loose etc.
I’m sure it’s quite easy to blame someone / something else if needs be if you have cocked up on a job
Exactly what I had with a well known outfit.I’m sure it’s quite easy to blame someone / something else if needs be if you have cocked up on a job
"We've checked everything Sir, nothing that we did has caused the problem"
The list of cock ups was as long as my arm
phazed said:
Exactly what I had with a well known outfit.
"We've checked everything Sir, nothing that we did has caused the problem"
The list of cock ups was as long as my arm
been there, more than once "We've checked everything Sir, nothing that we did has caused the problem"
The list of cock ups was as long as my arm
and this is where the lopsided no naming and shaming but you can glorify them ph rules just means more and more people getting stung again and again by the same "so called" specialists, who seem to think its fine to hand back a car in this state (and in my case knowingly so)Hmmmm?
Idiot light on & pressure gauge reading would be OK, indicating failed switch...
Idiot light OFF & erratic pressure gauge fine mess around with fixing gauge/sender...
HOWEVER, Idiot light on & no pressure reading in this case AIUI...
ANYONE who doesn't understand the implications of that and does anything more than crank the car with plugs out (until the measly 5-10psi idiot light goes out) is just increasing the possible damage IMHO (and who's fault is that in any warranty claim? ~ specialist or advices from PHer's??? )
Idiot light on & pressure gauge reading would be OK, indicating failed switch...
Idiot light OFF & erratic pressure gauge fine mess around with fixing gauge/sender...
HOWEVER, Idiot light on & no pressure reading in this case AIUI...
ANYONE who doesn't understand the implications of that and does anything more than crank the car with plugs out (until the measly 5-10psi idiot light goes out) is just increasing the possible damage IMHO (and who's fault is that in any warranty claim? ~ specialist or advices from PHer's??? )
I've took a job in a garage to bring me upto speed, specialists my arse!
Care and attention are what's needed as much as fancy full knowledge!
Someone asked me to polish an oil fiter because he's selling his eurobox, car dealer, punks half of em and I told him to ask someone else to do it,,,,,, he had the hump, he also nearly had a black eye, w
ker.
The real question is has any damage occurred to Daz engine?
I've been through a kind of hell with my Tvr, not impressed with the cars,
I feel Daz pain, you need a bottomless pit and zero brains to own the average Tvr, that's before you mod it.
Anyway, if Daz has saved his engine what should he be looking at other than taking it to Dom!!!!!!
What should his plan of action be, I'm assuming the plate/ oil pump is the issue?
Care and attention are what's needed as much as fancy full knowledge!
Someone asked me to polish an oil fiter because he's selling his eurobox, car dealer, punks half of em and I told him to ask someone else to do it,,,,,, he had the hump, he also nearly had a black eye, w
ker. The real question is has any damage occurred to Daz engine?
I've been through a kind of hell with my Tvr, not impressed with the cars,
I feel Daz pain, you need a bottomless pit and zero brains to own the average Tvr, that's before you mod it.
Anyway, if Daz has saved his engine what should he be looking at other than taking it to Dom!!!!!!
What should his plan of action be, I'm assuming the plate/ oil pump is the issue?
Classichim said:
I've took a job in a garage to bring me upto speed, specialists my arse!
Care and attention are what's needed as much as fancy full knowledge!
Someone asked me to polish an oil fiter because he's selling his eurobox, car dealer, punks half of em and I told him to ask someone else to do it,,,,,, he had the hump, he also nearly had a black eye, wker.
The real question is has any damage occurred to Daz engine?
I've been through a kind of hell with my Tvr, not impressed with the cars,
I feel Daz pain, you need a bottomless pit and zero brains to own the average Tvr, that's before you mod it.
Anyway, if Daz has saved his engine what should he be looking at other than taking it to Dom!!!!!!
What should his plan of action be, I'm assuming the plate/ oil pump is the issue?
Its going back ,sump is being removed and I will be there to see it . My friends dad who rebuilds diesels and sells vans will be taking it on his transporter.Care and attention are what's needed as much as fancy full knowledge!
Someone asked me to polish an oil fiter because he's selling his eurobox, car dealer, punks half of em and I told him to ask someone else to do it,,,,,, he had the hump, he also nearly had a black eye, w
ker. The real question is has any damage occurred to Daz engine?
I've been through a kind of hell with my Tvr, not impressed with the cars,
I feel Daz pain, you need a bottomless pit and zero brains to own the average Tvr, that's before you mod it.
Anyway, if Daz has saved his engine what should he be looking at other than taking it to Dom!!!!!!
What should his plan of action be, I'm assuming the plate/ oil pump is the issue?
Excellent Daz, that's what you need, to be there when it's pulled apart. My fingers are firmly crossed for you.
I've been really down on my car for months but to be honest the cars I've seen coming through the garage that are 14 years old are mostly scrap!
The newer ones are't much better, 03 plate cars, rusting wishbones etc, really nice 2001 Range Rover rusting away like a boat!
All cars are crap, we strive for a perfect car, Tvr at that? Impossible dream.
The thing is were all so awear of every inch of our cars that any fault is a real ps off.
May the Tvr force be with you Daz, Goodluck.
I've been really down on my car for months but to be honest the cars I've seen coming through the garage that are 14 years old are mostly scrap!
The newer ones are't much better, 03 plate cars, rusting wishbones etc, really nice 2001 Range Rover rusting away like a boat!
All cars are crap, we strive for a perfect car, Tvr at that? Impossible dream.
The thing is were all so awear of every inch of our cars that any fault is a real p
s off. May the Tvr force be with you Daz, Goodluck.
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