Magnecore Leads

[pbaker43]

Hi Dave,
Sorry to hear about your issues and the leads, your dead right the lead has broken down and the arc has ripped through the insulation.. I changed mine to a USA spec, Moroso (ultra 40) they have a low Ohm value around 40 per foot but I do not know if they are any good for LPG, I brought them from Real Steel in the UK about £90 a set.. Just a question, the resistance of the longer lead plus the 5 Ohms of the extender, would this have any part to play in the failure?
BR
Phil

[ChimpOnGas]

Sardonicus said:

ence why you should not continue to use a car that as knackered leads or spark plugs or misfiring as the coil driver/ignition module gets over worked followed closely by the owner crying that they have suffered ignition failure not so good when the spark drivers are an integral part of an ECU like many modern cars & Emerald/Canems/Megasquirt/Motec etc etc before the introduction of coil on plug ignition anyway back on topic Dave if you give me 8 serviceable or a new set of Gen 2 Ford coil pack ends (I take it that's what your using) I will sort it out.

Edited by Sardonicus on Monday 21st July 09:07

Many thanks Simon, I'll get in touch when I get back to Old Blighty in a week or so.

[ChimpOnGas]

pbaker43 said:

Hi Dave,
Sorry to hear about your issues and the leads, your dead right the lead has broken down and the arc has ripped through the insulation.. I changed mine to a USA spec, Moroso (ultra 40) they have a low Ohm value around 40 per foot but I do not know if they are any good for LPG, I brought them from Real Steel in the UK about £90 a set.. Just a question, the resistance of the longer lead plus the 5 Ohms of the extender, would this have any part to play in the failure?
BR
Phil

Cheers Philip, you have a really good point there and for that reason I didn't run the extenders at first, preferring to just rely on the DEI Titanium socks that had previously provided more than enough heat protection on petrol.

Then the first Magnecore lead failed on no 8 cylinder so thinking it could be heat related I went back to the extenders, only to have the second Magnecore (no 7) failure two days ago just outside Arcachon.

The failed leads both looked exactly the same, split open by the arc which then created the scorching marks; so I conclude extenders or no extenders these leads fail on the back two cylinders when burning LPG.

I'll get a universal MSD set fro Summit Racing and some EDIS hook type coil pack connectors from Canems, Simon has very kindly offered to cut to my measurements and properly crimp the terminals so that should solve the issue once & for all.

I'm sorry to say after providing good service on petrol the Magnecores get an LPG thumbs down from me so I won't be using them again, but petrol people shouldn't necessarily be put off.

[ChimpOnGas]

Ok, just ordered these from Summit Racing for £86.00 including postage & tax using their excellent I-Parcel service which I've used in the past and worked well with very fast delivery.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-31189

Not cheap for a set of leads so they better be good.

Just need the EDIS coil pack connectors now, £46 for 8 including delivery seems a bit strong though.

http://trigger-wheels.com/store/contents/en-uk/d6....

Does anyone know where I can buy EDIS hook type coil pack connectors at reasonable cost, or is this the going rate?

[SILICONEKIDOBHP]

ChimpOnGas said:

Ok, just ordered these from Summit Racing for £86.00 including postage & tax using their excellent I-Parcel service which I've used in the past and worked well with very fast delivery.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-31189

Not cheap for a set of leads so they better be good.

Just need the EDIS coil pack connectors now, £46 for 8 including delivery seems a bit strong though.

http://trigger-wheels.com/store/contents/en-uk/d6....

Does anyone know where I can buy EDIS hook type coil pack connectors at reasonable cost, or is this the going rate?

Why not just buy it by the metre and make your own up .. quality ends available on fleabay .

I have a virus on my laptop so can`t get on to fleabay ,I bought a full set of Eddis connectors and spark plug ends for about £12 .Its the same guy who sells the coil pack brackets .. the one`s fitted in front on the plenum .

Top quality look at the thick rubber shrouds on to the spark plugs ,they even have a bend on them .

Edited by SILICONEKIDOBHP on Monday 21st July 19:33

Edited by SILICONEKIDOBHP on Monday 21st July 19:36

[Pupp]

Isn't this just the leads' way of protesting at being made to mount those oddball sparkplugs?


Joking aside, might be better to just give some balanced feedback to the manufacturer rather than slagging the product in public?

[ChimpOnGas]

Pupp said:

Isn't this just the leads' way of protesting at being made to mount those oddball sparkplugs?


Joking aside, might be better to just give some balanced feedback to the manufacturer rather than slagging the product in public?

Yep, emailed the manufacturer and still waiting for their response.

I'd like to see this as honest feedback rather than slagging off, the truth is honest feedback is not always positive.

If you promote a product with claims its aimed at a specific market, charge strong money for it, then it fails.

Well you've got to man up when things go wrong.

Hows the home brew Turbo coming on, nice project but isn't it about time you finished it?

[Pupp]

ChimpOnGas said:

Yep, emailed the manufacturer and still waiting for their response.

I'd like to see this as honest feedback rather than slagging off, the truth is honest feedback is not always positive.

If you promote a product with claims its aimed at a specific market, charge strong money for it, then it fails.

Well you've got to man up when things go wrong.

Hows the home brew Turbo coming on, nice project but isn't it about time you finished it?

Fair enough, but Magnecor advertise their products benefit from a 10 year warranty so I guess that would be my first port of call rather than posting up negative rhetoric on a site with as much traffic as PH. That seems likely to just get up the nose of the proprietor and with some justification IMV, especially if it is simply a bad batch rather than a design or materials failure. Reputations are difficult to build and very easy to destroy, often despite the facts.

The turbo is coming along (check the garage thread in a bit), but I'm balancing it with two jobs and caring responsibilities, oh and with having a life, if all ok with you

[ChimpOnGas]

Pupp said:

The turbo is coming along (check the garage thread in a bit), but I'm balancing it with two jobs and caring responsibilities, oh and with having a life, if all ok with you

No, hurry up.. I want to see it done

I'll check the garage thread as suggested.

BTW, it was the proprietor himself that custom made my leads by his very own fair hands.

They failed, no answer from my email, I feel let down, end of!

Now hop back under that bonnet and get turboing Gary

[pjac67]

This is news to me Dave - my (red) magnecors seem to be holding up....should I change them?
Thanks Paul.

[ChimpOnGas]

pjac67 said:

This is news to me Dave - my (red) magnecors seem to be holding up....should I change them?
Thanks Paul.

well as you're another gas sniffer like me Paul & based on my experience I'd definitely keep an eye on your Magnecores.

I'd carry spare leads too if I were you.

I carry spare 7 & 8 leads (the longest ones as my coil packs are where the dizzy was) and doing so got me out of a bind here in France, I suggest you do the same as they really take up no space at all.

Best regards, Dave.