Where to have a Super charger fitted to my 450 ?
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Hi all , considering having a power upgrade to my mk3 450 Chim. Suspension and brakes already upgraded so now want more power. There seems to be plenty of DIY kits available but not knowing one end of a spanner from the other want a one shop stop installation.
Can anyone recommend where this can be done and costs please . Or do I just by a Tuscan 2s ?.
Can anyone recommend where this can be done and costs please . Or do I just by a Tuscan 2s ?.
LMMAC said:
Hi all , considering having a power upgrade to my mk3 450 Chim. Suspension and brakes already upgraded so now want more power. There seems to be plenty of DIY kits available but not knowing one end of a spanner from the other want a one shop stop installation.
Can anyone recommend where this can be done and costs please . Or do I just by a Tuscan 2s ?.
with the extra power, what else is upgraded? Apart from the obvious like dampners , brakes , top end rebuild, drive shaft upgrade as they are known to snap with the extra power? Can anyone recommend where this can be done and costs please . Or do I just by a Tuscan 2s ?.
. As next year l am thinking along the same lines so interested in this thread , and to get the car ready before handmark
The SC Power kit http://tvrengineer.co.uk/tvr-upgrades/super-charge... is probably the most popular + well tested having plenty of cars that have done 10,000's of miles without problems. My word of warning is that there are a number of names (if I mentioned) which would get me banned - that supposedly have a good name but have made absolutely f*cking cock ups of doing Blower installs, and have had the owners banned (we all know who) for talking about it.
One simple thing - there is no such thing as doing this on the cheap (unless your good with spanners like many on here, me not included!) - as others have discovered it costs 10x more in long run unless it's done properly from the beginning.
I am clearly biased but my Dad who now does only bespoke work if your prepared to pay will do the highest quality fit you could want. See http://tvrengineer.co.uk/customer-work/orange-4-0-... - and is someone who SC Power recommend (and is only person also who does the pre-serp install)
Price is difficult to answer - as so many questions on what you want to have done, i.e. do you want the intercooler, work off dizzy or fit new ECU. And in the end how much power you actually want extra.
One simple thing - there is no such thing as doing this on the cheap (unless your good with spanners like many on here, me not included!) - as others have discovered it costs 10x more in long run unless it's done properly from the beginning.
I am clearly biased but my Dad who now does only bespoke work if your prepared to pay will do the highest quality fit you could want. See http://tvrengineer.co.uk/customer-work/orange-4-0-... - and is someone who SC Power recommend (and is only person also who does the pre-serp install)
Price is difficult to answer - as so many questions on what you want to have done, i.e. do you want the intercooler, work off dizzy or fit new ECU. And in the end how much power you actually want extra.
Half of the TVR Power supercharger kit is not even needed . The original kit was made up in the days of using the old 14cux and dizzy ..
Dexterio (EFI EXTRAS) made his own kit up for fraction of the cost ,he has the drawings for the bracket and i think he was just about to have some fabricated .
Dexterio (EFI EXTRAS) made his own kit up for fraction of the cost ,he has the drawings for the bracket and i think he was just about to have some fabricated .
macdeb said:
Have you considered Turbo? 
Yeah but have concerns over reliability and power delivery , I'm from the days of Turbo's old had a 5gt and a 21 Turbo . Haven't driven a turbo charged RV8 just worried it would change it's characteristics .Edited by macdeb on Sunday 27th July 19:13
Edited by LMMAC on Sunday 27th July 19:51
Edited by LMMAC on Sunday 27th July 19:52
NickOrangeTVR said:
The SC Power kit http://tvrengineer.co.uk/tvr-upgrades/super-charge... is probably the most popular + well tested having plenty of cars that have done 10,000's of miles without problems. My word of warning is that there are a number of names (if I mentioned) which would get me banned - that supposedly have a good name but have made absolutely f*cking cock ups of doing Blower installs, and have had the owners banned (we all know who) for talking about it.
One simple thing - there is no such thing as doing this on the cheap (unless your good with spanners like many on here, me not included!) - as others have discovered it costs 10x more in long run unless it's done properly from the beginning.
I am clearly biased but my Dad who now does only bespoke work if your prepared to pay will do the highest quality fit you could want. See http://tvrengineer.co.uk/customer-work/orange-4-0-... - and is someone who SC Power recommend (and is only person also who does the pre-serp install)
Price is difficult to answer - as so many questions on what you want to have done, i.e. do you want the intercooler, work off dizzy or fit new ECU. And in the end how much power you actually want extra.
How much power now that's a question , guess I'm hoping for 350ish from phase 1 ;-) , really depends on cost . If it's gonna be daft think I would rather sell up and put my money into something naturally quicker , trying to get the feeling back from my old 500 that would spin the wheels in 3rd and scare the live out of me ! One simple thing - there is no such thing as doing this on the cheap (unless your good with spanners like many on here, me not included!) - as others have discovered it costs 10x more in long run unless it's done properly from the beginning.
I am clearly biased but my Dad who now does only bespoke work if your prepared to pay will do the highest quality fit you could want. See http://tvrengineer.co.uk/customer-work/orange-4-0-... - and is someone who SC Power recommend (and is only person also who does the pre-serp install)
Price is difficult to answer - as so many questions on what you want to have done, i.e. do you want the intercooler, work off dizzy or fit new ECU. And in the end how much power you actually want extra.
I honestly believe it can be done properly as a DIY project, but I appreciate your point about skill with the spanners. I'm no expert but average as an enthusiastic amateur and have managed the installation on my '98 450 but learnt a hell of a lot along the way. The biggest drain for me was the time I took to make sure everything was right, I don't believe it can be done properly (full package incl. intercooler, larger injectors etc.) as a DIY job in less than 50 hours, only quicker if it's not the first time.
Lloyds Specialist Developments are held in high regard by many although I've no experience of them myself.
Engineer John is a genuinely nice bloke who certainly knows his trade (well he's been doing it long enough !).
Before starting any upgrade it's imperative to establish the health of your current engine, a leak down test is a must, a rolling road session is also useful if only to establish your baseline.
If you do decide to try yourself I'm more than happy to help as much as I can. The results are well worth it, I went from 275 bhp at flywheel to 425 (even with a little drive belt slip !) now corrected I should see 425 ish.
I do hope you realise that you may well have re-opened a huge can of worms, on this forum at least !!!
Good Luck
Lloyds Specialist Developments are held in high regard by many although I've no experience of them myself.
Engineer John is a genuinely nice bloke who certainly knows his trade (well he's been doing it long enough !).
Before starting any upgrade it's imperative to establish the health of your current engine, a leak down test is a must, a rolling road session is also useful if only to establish your baseline.
If you do decide to try yourself I'm more than happy to help as much as I can. The results are well worth it, I went from 275 bhp at flywheel to 425 (even with a little drive belt slip !) now corrected I should see 425 ish.
I do hope you realise that you may well have re-opened a huge can of worms, on this forum at least !!!
Good Luck
Edited by Richard 858 on Sunday 27th July 21:01
Edited by Richard 858 on Tuesday 29th July 20:22
Richard 858 said:
I honestly believe it can be done properly as a DIY project, but I appreciate you point about skill with the spanners. I'm no expert but average as an enthusiastic amateur and have managed the installation on my '98 450 but learnt a hell of a lot along the way. The biggest drain for me was the time I took to make sure everything was right, I don't believe it can be done properly (full package incl. intercooler, larger injectors etc. as a DIY job in less than 50 hours, only quicker if it's not the first time.
Lloyds Specialist Developments are held in high regard by many although I've no experience of them myself.
Engineer John is a genuinely nice bloke who certainly knows his trade (well he's been doing it long enough !).
Before starting any upgrade it's imperative to establish the health of you current engine, a leak down test is a must, a rolling road session is also useful if only to establish your baseline.
If you do decide to try yourself I'm more than happy to help as much as I can. The results are well worth it, I went from 275 bhp at flywheel to 425 (even with a little drive belt slip !) now corrected I should see 425 ish.
I do hope you realise that you may well have re-opened a huge can of worms, on this forum at least !!!
Good Luck
Couldn't and wouldn't ever do this myself ! Need an established to do it for me ;-)Lloyds Specialist Developments are held in high regard by many although I've no experience of them myself.
Engineer John is a genuinely nice bloke who certainly knows his trade (well he's been doing it long enough !).
Before starting any upgrade it's imperative to establish the health of you current engine, a leak down test is a must, a rolling road session is also useful if only to establish your baseline.
If you do decide to try yourself I'm more than happy to help as much as I can. The results are well worth it, I went from 275 bhp at flywheel to 425 (even with a little drive belt slip !) now corrected I should see 425 ish.
I do hope you realise that you may well have re-opened a huge can of worms, on this forum at least !!!
Good Luck
Chuffmeister said:
How much did it cost you Richard and did you do a write-up by any chance?
I'm trying to get round to doing a write up, after a few beers at the Le Mans Classic I agreed to put something together for Chimaera Mike for Sprint so I've got to now, it's just getting time. As far as budget goes, if you opt for the SC package (SC 500 with larger C38 charger) with all the bells & whistles (injectors, intercooler etc.) you'll be looking at over £5,000 with the VAT. If you have the confidence, time & inclination to source items individually you can save a fair bit, but my thinking was to spend a bit more and have some comeback if things didn't work out. The guys at SC power have done a good job putting this package together and I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, particularly if I didn't match the elements together properly and cock something up.Richard 858 said:
I'm trying to get round to doing a write up, after a few beers at the Le Mans Classic I agreed to put something together for Chimaera Mike for Sprint so I've got to now, it's just getting time. As far as budget goes, if you opt for the SC package (SC 500 with larger C38 charger) with all the bells & whistles (injectors, intercooler etc.) you'll be looking at over £5,000 with the VAT. If you have the confidence, time & inclination to source items individually you can save a fair bit, but my thinking was to spend a bit more and have some comeback if things didn't work out. The guys at SC power have done a good job putting this package together and I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, particularly if I didn't match the elements together properly and cock something up.
I would look forward to seeing that, although not currently in the TVRCC. Is there any other alternative to Rotrex? Perhaps something along the lines of the Corrado SC. Less overall gains, but enough to give more power and torque?Nick, I second johns (engineer1949) recommendation and he's not my father lol. I am interested in doing this but was going to buy the kits ex cooler and do it myself but I am interested to know what makes the costs rise? Does the kits inc all you need? Also I will stick with the 14cux and dizzy for the mean time at least to keep the cost down. Mines only a 400 like yours.
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