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NickOrangeTVR said:
Shame the article talks complete and utter b
ks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap. 
Is your car producing more than 338 at the rear wheels then? ks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap. 
because if I remember correctly Powers car was making over 400 FW HP 
and I am not surprised either. Edited by Sardonicus on Wednesday 27th August 17:31
NickOrangeTVR said:
Shame the article talks complete and utter bks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap.
A 4.0 turbo will always produce more power than a 4.0 supercharger like for like spec FACT!!!ks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap. Just admit you wish you had gone turbo'd now lol
Pupp said:
Looks a seriously tidy and very well thought-out install to me 
If the NCK reference is a clue as to the builder, I doubt anything about it would disappoint
You are right Gary. I saw the car couple of weeks back and spoke to the guy who owns it. He is VERY knowledgable and has a long history of engine building and goes back to before TVR Power when it was NCK [I used to go there in the 80's] so he knows his onions. The car is a peach and the install superb. If the NCK reference is a clue as to the builder, I doubt anything about it would disappoint
NickOrangeTVR said:
Shame the article talks complete and utter bks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap.
ks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap. 
Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 27th August 18:52
Edited by macdeb on Wednesday 27th August 21:03
neal1980 said:
NickOrangeTVR said:
Shame the article talks complete and utter bks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap.
A 4.0 turbo will always produce more power than a 4.0 supercharger like for like spec FACT!!!ks about superchargers - 260BHP from a 4.0ltr supercharged car, when my SC is more powerful than their 4.0 Turbo car. What a lock of crap. Just admit you wish you had gone turbo'd now lol
nah i am happy with my not so hot hair drierIs built yet ? I want see it light up the rears
phazed said:
This is going to run and run which is pointless as we all know that NA is best 
You are correct Peter, I suspect a polarised argument will now commence, however I wonder if superchargers may be unreliable. 6 years after fitting a rotrex to my untested 60,000 mile 4 litre and having done approaching 20,000 miles and dozens of trackdays, I may have goosed my engine at Bedford on Saturday , you just can't rely on anything these days. Still that is a lovely looking car and a very tidy installation.
P.S. My next engine will be Supercharged.
different strokes for different folks IMO Sardonicus said:
s your car producing more than 338 at the rear wheels then? because if I remember correctly Powers car was making over 400 FW HP and I am not surprised either.
If you read the article their 4.0Ltr was producing 338BHP & 427lb ft torque. And given we now have 375BHP and 400lb torque and getting to 400 would not be hard - but I prefer rock solid reliability over negligble increases, and the FACT is that I have run a shed load of track days without a single problem and every single track day I see a Turbo TVR car at it blow ups / overheats / cracked manifolds / etc. because if I remember correctly Powers car was making over 400 FW HP and I am not surprised either. Edited by Sardonicus on Wednesday 27th August 17:31
neal1980 said:
A 4.0 turbo will always produce more power than a 4.0 supercharger like for like spec FACT!!!
Just admit you wish you had gone turbo'd now lol
No, you wish you had a car that sounded as nice as mine and has actual progressive power rather than something that is un-drivable on a track. Just admit you wish you had gone turbo'd now lol
NickOrangeTVR said:
If you read the article their 4.0Ltr was producing 338BHP & 427lb ft torque. And given we now have 375BHP and 400lb torque and getting to 400 would not be hard - but I prefer rock solid reliability over negligble increases, and the FACT is that I have run a shed load of track days without a single problem and every single track day I see a Turbo TVR car at it blow ups / overheats / cracked manifolds / etc.
At the wheels then? whats your point Nick? should we all not bother with other methods of power increases and all just SC the RV8 
its obviously the NickOrangeTVR said:
No, you wish you had a car that sounded as nice as mine and has actual progressive power rather than something that is un-drivable on a track.
As nice as yours is big credit to your dad it does not produce enough power for me simple as that, yours is nice and safe and progressive. My old engine was over 400bhp and 550lbft and to be honest its the "its trying to kill me" which gets me going. I now want absolute minimum 650bhp to start with....yes it will be crazy and it may try and kill me but that's how I want it and for how much i've spent this time around I deserve it lol My car will be used on track and drag strips, I Look forward to a challenge
carsy said:
Nick, Powers figures are rear wheel figures. Yours are flywheel arent they.
ETA Sorry Simon you beat me to it.
Yes, mine are at flywheel - but 338 is still lower than 375 once you take into account the loss (and depending on which RR figures you believe of course) ETA Sorry Simon you beat me to it.
And as I said - we can get a *lot* more out if we want, bottom line both systems insert more air under pressure - thats it - there is no rocket science to it, blowers required to spin up but are more efficient because a SC takes power from the engine. Both systems can generate more power given time + money.
What I dislike is making up complete b
ks figures (i.e. him quoting 260bhp for a SC car on 4.0ltr) for marketing reasons. For the record Engineer1949 is thinking about doing a Turbo build himself (we have a spare Chim) but completely different to any other car thats been done in a way that will remove any problems of overheating.
Watch this space....
phazed said:
This is going to run and run which is pointless as we all know that NA is best
Ancient Chinese proverb say man who live near Dorking always speak wise words....And this Turbo vs SC willy waving nonsense is getting a bit tedious.... We're supposed to be mates and help each other out on here, we're a community FFS, not a bunch of 'my dick's bigger than yours' mob... We can leave that to the Scooby and Evo brigade..
Anyway, I'm thinking of buying a GTR, then your puny turbo and SC TVR's will be specs in my mirrors..
neal1980 said:
As nice as yours is big credit to your dad it does not produce enough power for me simple as that, yours is nice and safe and progressive. My old engine was over 400bhp and 550lbft and to be honest its the "its trying to kill me" which gets me going. I now want absolute minimum 650bhp to start with....yes it will be crazy and it may try and kill me but that's how I want it and for how much i've spent this time around I deserve it lol
My car will be used on track and drag strips, I Look forward to a challenge
And full respect for that Neal My car will be used on track and drag strips, I Look forward to a challenge
I am certainly in the bracket of wanting fast but safe(ish). The Cerbera is going to be 500bhp - but we will have traction control. NickOrangeTVR said:
If you read the article their 4.0Ltr was producing 338BHP & 427lb ft torque. And given we now have 375BHP and 400lb torque and getting to 400 would not be hard - but I prefer rock solid reliability over negligble increases, and the FACT is that I have run a shed load of track days without a single problem and every single track day I see a Turbo TVR car at it blow ups / overheats / cracked manifolds / etc.
Is your engine going to let go not being cross bolted . Is it a weak spot ? Would a nice cross bolted 4.6 serp been a better option .. You will be kicking ass in your Dads Cerb LS race engine .. now that`s going to move .
Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Wednesday 27th August 20:30
NickOrangeTVR said:
FACT is that I have run a shed load of track days without a single problem and every single track day I see a Turbo TVR car at it blow ups / overheats / cracked manifolds / etc.
Whose car has blown up Nick? I can't recall hearing of any and know most of the turbo cars. Gassing Station | Chimaera | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff