5 litre Turbo

5 litre Turbo

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spitfire4v8

3,989 posts

180 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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NickOrangeTVR said:
What I dislike is making up complete bks figures (i.e. him quoting 260bhp for a SC car on 4.0ltr) for marketing reasons.

If you read the article it says the car the writer took across the alps was 260hp, not that every supercharged 4 litre is that power, or that 260hp is the ceiling numbers for that kit .. just THAT CAR made 260hp.

"The 4.0 litre supercharger which I took across the Alps, from its original 190bhp and 210lb ft of torque at the rear wheels, delivered in excess of 260bhp with 260lb ft of torque."

NickOrangeTVR

649 posts

138 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Martin Pratt just left comment on Facebook saying that the 385bhp (flywheel) 338bhp (wheels) was I quote "20psi of boost on a 4 ltr on a max power run on the dyno" - and said they normally run them at half that pressure. So in no way a fair comparison, the fact were running half that pressure and getting only 10BHP less than theirs at 20PSI tells you something smile




phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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As Richard said earlier, "we're all mates" so let's lighter up!

The fact that we're all striving, fiddling and generally arsing about enjoying ourselves sets us apart from others so let's just relax, (or shut the f*ck up as I tell my children).

Why oh why I missed the opportunity to be a diplomat I really don't know.

SILICONEKID345HP

Original Poster:

14,997 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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phazed said:
As Richard said earlier, "we're all mates" so let's lighter up!

The fact that we're all striving, fiddling and generally arsing about enjoying ourselves sets us apart from others so let's just relax, (or shut the f*ck up as I tell my children).

Why oh why I missed the opportunity to be a diplomat I really don't know.
I just want a carbon triple plenum and a 308 diff , forgot to mention a "new carpet"cool


Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Wednesday 27th August 20:55

phazed

21,844 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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When you said, "new carpet" I had visions of your sitting room smile

macdeb

8,492 posts

254 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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NickOrangeTVR said:
neal1980 said:
A 4.0 turbo will always produce more power than a 4.0 supercharger like for like spec FACT!!!

Just admit you wish you had gone turbo'd now lol
No, you wish you had a car that sounded as nice as mine and has actual progressive power rather than something that is un-drivable on a track. smile
sleep

macdeb

8,492 posts

254 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Sardonicus said:
For and against for both forms of FI scratchchin its the same with more cubes vs more tuning/hotting up whistle different strokes for different folks IMO
^^^^ This and Chilli/Phazed comments, but we are not worthy.

Pupp

12,205 posts

271 months

Pupp

12,205 posts

271 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Here's a starter turbo for the SC guys to upgrade to... laugh

NickOrangeTVR

649 posts

138 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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phazed said:
As Richard said earlier, "we're all mates" so let's lighter up!
I take it all as light hearted banter (and hope everyone else does!) - I have huge respect for all the work that gets done on our cars, especially the Turbo + SC cars which is costing everyone way more money than we will ever get back! but importantly makes us all very happy.

spitfire4v8

3,989 posts

180 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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NickOrangeTVR said:
I take it all as light hearted banter (and hope everyone else does!) - I have huge respect for all the work that gets done on our cars, especially the Turbo + SC cars which is costing everyone way more money than we will ever get back! but importantly makes us all very happy.
most sensible thing you've ever said smile

NickOrangeTVR

649 posts

138 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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spitfire4v8 said:
most sensible thing you've ever said smile
don't mind me - I like a good argument smilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

db484bhpv8

8,655 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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banter mode

Maybe if i wasnt so greedy and settled for the low levels of power you FI guys seem to be content with i would stop melting bits and snapping stuff.

900T-R

20,404 posts

256 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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spitfire4v8 said:
If you read the article it says the car the writer took across the alps was 260hp, not that every supercharged 4 litre is that power, or that 260hp is the ceiling numbers for that kit .. just THAT CAR made 260hp.

"The 4.0 litre supercharger which I took across the Alps, from its original 190bhp and 210lb ft of torque at the rear wheels, delivered in excess of 260bhp with 260lb ft of torque."
260 at the wheels, bang in the middle of what healthy 500s make... at the flywheel.

Not too shabby for a simple bolt-on installation, and about as much as I'd want to subject a roadgoing Grifmaera on road tyres to without completely re-engineering the chassis a la Sportmotive.

(Of course it's different for track focused builds and something else again for those who get their rocks off at the drag strip, but if the goal is to create an overall better road car than the factory could provide us with back ten, this willy waving contest is becoming a bit pointless...)

macdeb

8,492 posts

254 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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NickOrangeTVR said:
done in a way that will remove any problems of overheating.

Watch this space....
For the record, I don't have ANY overheating problems. wink

Sardonicus

18,928 posts

220 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Seriously though could you see TVR Power or Eann/torquev8 releasing a product that causes overheating or under developed confused give me a break Nick rolleyes OK say you dont like Turbo's that's fine banghead your Pa has done a smashing job but there is more than one way to modify the Rover

ackbullchang

270 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Banter mode.

I get the impression Nick (nice fella as he is) doesn't like anything that is not done his (or should I say, his fathers') way!

By the way, Phil's (the orange turbo chim) manifolds haven't cracked yet, and his engine hasn't melted yet biggrin

Pupp

12,205 posts

271 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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So which one(s) did blow up then? confused

db484bhpv8

8,655 posts

219 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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Pupp said:
So which one(s) did blow up then? confused
That might be me

Pupp

12,205 posts

271 months

Thursday 28th August 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:
Pupp said:
So which one(s) did blow up then? confused
That might be me
Turbo???