Engine out - what else

Engine out - what else

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WokingWedger

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1,030 posts

205 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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My engine is out and in the safe hands of John Eales.

The gearbox is with John Reid (Grantura engineering/Readman Racing)

Chassis in the engine bay is being cleaned back and treated where necessary.

Fuel pipes being replaced.

Heat resistant wing and bulkhead shields are being replaced.

What else is worth doing whilst the engine is out (cant go overboard as a (the) garage is doing the work, but don't want to regret not doing something later.

Any suggestions ?

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Diff/gearbox/engine mounts


WokingWedger

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205 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Oops, I forgot to mention they are being changed.

Good shout though, thanks.

Any thing else ?

Hedgehopper

1,537 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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How about upgrading the positive battery cable to a decent size and sleeving it with heat-proof wrap over the clutch housing.

WokingWedger

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205 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Hedgehopper said:
How about upgrading the positive battery cable to a decent size and sleeving it with heat-proof wrap over the clutch housing.
Ah. Is that a known weakness? High resistance ?

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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WokingWedger said:
Ah. Is that a known weakness? High resistance ?
Cheap TVR cable. This job would cost you about £30 for a couple metres of 50mm tinned copper cable and about 20 mins to fit with the engine out. Also a good opportunity to add a couple of earths from the battery.

Usually, the hardest part is pulling the cable through the bulkhead grommet due to access. Should be easy with the engine out.

Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Pretty obvious but clutch and fly, pretty much just cost of parts. Manifolds coated (Zirtec?)

Hedgehopper

1,537 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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A problem can develop where the car won't re-start when hot after a short stop, getting petrol for example. My car is developing this problem, it will re-start if, say, stalled in traffic but not after a 10 minute stop until cooled down.

Experts on this forum suggest this is caused by the thin, very long battery cable and heat sink from where the cable loops over the transmission at the rear of the engine.

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Diff/gearbox/engine mounts


WokingWedger

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205 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Thanks all.

I will talk to the garage about the cable.

Clutch has only done 5000 miles, flywheel is already as light as it is advisable to go, and is being balanced with crank.

Any thing else anybody can think off ?

rev-erend

21,413 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Exhaust .. check condition and replace or have it coated.

Camcoat and others can help.

WokingWedger

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Thursday 18th September 2014
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rev-erend said:
Exhaust .. check condition and replace or have it coated.

Camcoat and others can help.
Hi Alan, yes I will check the whole system (one of the 'flexible' bits looks a bit dented but not leaking).

Not sure about having the manifolds coated though !

I did wonder about having the pre cats removed ( to reduce heat and maybe release a couple more horses) , but I don't really want it any louder.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Change the exhaust gaskets and put ARP studs in as well as Nordlok washers. While the manifolds are off you may want to paint them and/or remove the precats.
I'd change the fuel pipes at the rear of the engine also.
Silicon water pipes and stainless water pipes as you've got to change the cooling fluid?
FFG

TVR Beaver

2,867 posts

180 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Yes, pre-cats out.. stud kit on heads and mains.. cross bolted... everthing individualy balanced... new harmonic damper....
What is JE doing.. I'm assuming new pistons wink if so where did you get the new ones?... you may want to think about full seal rings smile

WokingWedger

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Thursday 18th September 2014
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FlipFlopGriff said:
Change the exhaust gaskets and put ARP studs in as well as Nordlok washers. While the manifolds are off you may want to paint them and/or remove the precats.
I'd change the fuel pipes at the rear of the engine also.
Silicon water pipes and stainless water pipes as you've got to change the cooling fluid?
FFG
Fuel pipes being done, hoses already Silicone and Stainless.

ARP studs and Nordlok, noted thanks will talk to garage.

WokingWedger

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Thursday 18th September 2014
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TVR Beaver said:
Yes, pre-cats out.. stud kit on heads and mains.. cross bolted... everthing individualy balanced... new harmonic damper....
What is JE doing.. I'm assuming new pistons wink if so where did you get the new ones?... you may want to think about full seal rings smile
All of the above except removing pre cats at the moment.

Interestingly John said the play between pin and piston isn't really noticeable, but the bores are (were)oval, so may have been piston slap of sorts.

I am taking no chances, the lot is being replaced.

As its having top hat liners fitted, its also having new, very slightly larger diameter pistons, and longer con rods with a bearing in the little end.

Its also having a cam retainer plate fitted.

TVR Beaver

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180 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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yup.. mine already had the cam retainer so wasn't that.. my bores are top limit (0.05 clear on pistons.. most racers build to this if not bigger)but new pistons have cured it wink
what pistons and rods are you using??.. are you sticking with the std crank??. smile

BTW.. with all the oil washed out my pins appeared spot on.. but I'm still convinced that was the problem.. small ends will help a lot

WokingWedger

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Thursday 18th September 2014
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TVR Beaver said:
yup.. mine already had the cam retainer so wasn't that.. my bores are top limit (0.05 clear on pistons.. most racers build to this if not bigger)but new pistons have cured it wink
what pistons and rods are you using??.. are you sticking with the std crank??. smile

BTW.. with all the oil washed out my pins appeared spot on.. but I'm still convinced that was the problem.. small ends will help a lot
I was told what pistons / rods they are , but cant remember.

I will ask when I next speak to John.

I am using the existing crank as it appears to be in very good nick.


TVR Beaver

2,867 posts

180 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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sounds good!.. longer rods will improve BHP and torque smile

yes.. find out whats been used wink

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

247 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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WokingWedger said:
Fuel pipes being done, hoses already Silicone and Stainless.

ARP studs and Nordlok, noted thanks will talk to garage.
You can get the gasket, studs and washers from ACT.
FFG