Winter tyres

Winter tyres

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db484bhpv8

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8,655 posts

220 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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My RSRs were dreadful in wet and greasy conditions on Saturday and i even left the tarmac and a ridiculously slow speed.
Thankfully no real harm done.

So i amlooking to replace my tyres on the SP12s with something more UK weather friendly.

Currently looking at 255/35/18 and 215/40/17 Uniroyal Rainsport 3's

Anybody have them fitted or any other recommendations?

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:
My RSRs were dreadful in wet and greasy conditions on Saturday and i even left the tarmac and a ridiculously slow speed.
Thankfully no real harm done.

So i amlooking to replace my tyres on the SP12s with something more UK weather friendly.

Currently looking at 255/35/18 and 215/40/17 Uniroyal Rainsport 3's

Anybody have them fitted or any other recommendations?
A lot of manufactures do not make 215/40/17



Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Monday 6th October 18:34

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,115 posts

165 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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The back end of my Chimaera has Rainsport 2s, and I'm very happy with them. The front end has Toyos at the moment, but will be getting Rainsport 3s at some point.

My other car, a SEAT Ibiza FR TDI, has Rainsport 2s on the front and Rainsport 3s on the back.

Needless to say, I'm sold on the Rainsports!


Edited to add: They're not winter tyres though, so not really in keeping with the title of your thread. They completely lack the little sideways grooves (called "sipes", I believe) that make winter tyres grip well on snow and slush. I predict that the Rainsports, like the Toyos, will be a bit rubbish on snow. My previous favourite tyre was the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 (now largely unavailable), which was excellent in the dry, very good in the wet, but utter rubbish on snow - for the same reason, lack of transverse sipes.

Edited again: Back in July I rented a car in Italy and was given a German-registered Focus estate. It had some kind of all-season tyres on it, which I believe are legally required in Germany. They looked very odd with all the little sideways slits in the rubber, like someone had attacked them with a Stanley knife. They also didn't handle very nicely at higher speeds: cornering at high speeds felt very weird and insecure, and I'm sure that wasn't the fault of the Focus.

Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Monday 6th October 18:18

db484bhpv8

Original Poster:

8,655 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Aah yes i shouldnt have used the term 'Winter' i meant wet weather tyres not snow.

I can feel an order with camskil coming on for those rainsport 3's scratchchin

NickM450

2,636 posts

200 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:
Aah yes i shouldnt have used the term 'Winter' i meant wet weather tyres not snow.

I can feel an order with camskil coming on for those rainsport 3's scratchchin
I can't say much about the tyre as I've not driven on them yet. But they are rated highly as road tyres when you don't have your super stickys on hehe

Have you looked at tyreleader.co.uk? Did me an excellent deal on a set of 4, delivered for just over £300 if I recall.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:
Aah yes i shouldnt have used the term 'Winter' i meant wet weather tyres not snow.

I can feel an order with camskil coming on for those rainsport 3's scratchchin
My 2s were like cheating in the wet, great grip!

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:
Aah yes i shouldnt have used the term 'Winter' i meant wet weather tyres not snow.

I can feel an order with camskil coming on for those rainsport 3's scratchchin
had some pirelli winter tyres on my standard 15/16 wheels when i drove it in the cold and wet first year i got it.

there are two chim errors in the sentence above.

wet laugh cold laugh


db484bhpv8

Original Poster:

8,655 posts

220 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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NickM450 said:
I can't say much about the tyre as I've not driven on them yet. But they are rated highly as road tyres when you don't have your super stickys on hehe

Have you looked at tyreleader.co.uk? Did me an excellent deal on a set of 4, delivered for just over £300 if I recall.
Camskill are cheaper for the sizes i want. Comes to about £380 for the 245/35/18's and 215/40/17 delivered.
There was a place in Birmingham were very competitive when i bought the RSRs. Cant remember the name at the moment ???

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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I think it's well documented here already but I'm big Rainsport fan, I have the 2s and they are absolutely brilliant in the wet and great in the dry too.

As I've always said TVR's light cars with wide tyres so good water dispersant is essential, buy fancy track day tyres by all means but if you drive on the road in all conditions you need a good road tyre that deals with all conditions.

You'll be a long time wishing you'd listened to this while you wait for Surface & Design to fit a new front end to your pride & joy after it's been extracted from the scenery.

I bought my Rainsport 2s just before the 3s came out so I can't comment on the newer tyre, but I would definitely give them a go based on the reviews I've read and my own experience of the Uniroyal brand.

By all accounts the 2s & 3s are equally good in the dry & wet, its just the 3s are quieter and have a lower rolling resistance so give slightly better economy.

Kind of a Rainsport 2 for grownups wink


SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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ChimpOnGas said:
I think it's well documented here already but I'm big Rainsport fan, I have the 2s and they are absolutely brilliant in the wet and great in the dry too.

As I've always said TVR's light cars with wide tyres so good water dispersant is essential, buy fancy track day tyres by all means but if you drive on the road in all conditions you need a good road tyre that deals with all conditions.

You'll be a long time wishing you'd listened to this while you wait for Surface & Design to fit a new front end to your pride & joy after it's been extracted from the scenery.

I bought my Rainsport 2s just before the 3s came out so I can't comment on the newer tyre, but I would definitely give them a go based on the reviews I've read and my own experience of the Uniroyal brand.

By all accounts the 2s & 3s are equally good in the dry & wet, its just the 3s are quieter and have a lower rolling resistance so give slightly better economy.





Kind of a Rainsport 2 for grownups wink
Just fitted my other set to the car ,I`m running Falken 452`s . My findings are after running the road legal track day tyres are .

Smoother ride,no tram lining and better braking in the wet . The Federals 595 RSR`s are great on the track and the road on smooth road surfaces , you can just about live them on the road .




Edited by SILICONEKID345HP on Thursday 9th October 21:33

db484bhpv8

Original Poster:

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220 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I was worried they had sent me 4 nearside tyres but apparently they work perfectly in either direction


phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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It'll be like night and day when you have them fitted.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:
I was worried they had sent me 4 nearside tyres but apparently they work perfectly in either direction

That seems counterintuitive when you look at it, but this is what Uniroyal say.

"The RainSport 3 is a flow-optimised asymmetrical pattern that is non-directional but optimally combining the advantages of asymmetrical and directional concepts"

To be honest I've not heard a bad thing about these tyres, but please let us all know how you find them on the TVR Derek.

Thanks, Dave.

db484bhpv8

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8,655 posts

220 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Just returned from the fitters. Charged me £60 which i thought was fair. Nicely balanced ready for going 170 + next week at Elvington wink

First impressions.... nice comfy feel and i am sure the steering is much lighter. Not pushed them yet, need to wear off that first skin first. Pretty much did that to the rears as i left the tyre fitters already smokin

swallet

453 posts

143 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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I've always been put off by the name "rainsport", implies good wet weather grip but surely at the expense of dry - purely my impression from the branding.

My chim only really gets wet feet if I'm caught out.

So...

Are rainsports still a good performance tyre for dry days? I.E do you guys use them all year round?

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:
First impressions.... nice comfy feel and i am sure the steering is much lighter. Not pushed them yet, need to wear off that first skin first. Pretty much did that to the rears as i left the tyre fitters already smokin
Nice thumbup

db484bhpv8

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Saturday 11th October 2014
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phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Steering is always lighter with new tyres.

Let them settle in first.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

179 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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db484bhpv8 said:




They look great, as does the car thumbup

Do let us know how you get on with the Rainsport 3s once they've scrubbed in.

My Rainsport 2s took a long time to scrub in, I'd say almost 1000 miles in fact which is up to three times longer than I'd expect.

After that they were spot on in the dry & wet, and still are to this day thousands of miles later.

In fact they are wearing incredibly well, but 'Ol Gasbag' makes 250 ponies so I'm not really taxing them like Derek will his Rainsport 3's.

db484bhpv8

Original Poster:

8,655 posts

220 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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Went for a drive up to Windermere yesterday.
I think these tyres definately need some time to bed in.

In comparison to the Federal RSRs i found the car felt a little vague and somewhat 'floaty' at speed.

It must be noted that i did soften the Nitrons a few clicks while the tyres were being fitted.
So next weekend i will reset the shox and see if it still feels the same.
Certainly dont want it feeling that way when i am doing 170 at Elvington on 21st.